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Glenn Ashmore September 16th 03 03:17 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
I need suggestions for the best boat show shoes. Regular deck shoes
look nautical and you can keep them on while inspecting many boats but
they leave a lot to be desired when you have to walk around in them for
10 or 12 hours. Loafers are not much better and you have to take them
off every time you board. Tennis shoes have to be unlaced every time
you board a boat that allows no shoes.

I am looking for a pair of white rubber soled shoes that have good
support and can still be slipped on and off without having to tie and
untie them while balancing half a ton of sales literature.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Dave Skolnick September 16th 03 04:20 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
I need suggestions for the best boat show shoes.


http://www.sperrytopsider.com/mens_figawi_low.asp

Never tried them (I'm a Sebago Docksides guy) but they look like they
have good arch support and they ARE deck shoes. $80.

dave


Peggie Hall September 16th 03 04:27 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
I need suggestions for the best boat show shoes. Regular deck shoes
look nautical and you can keep them on while inspecting many boats but
they leave a lot to be desired when you have to walk around in them for
10 or 12 hours. Loafers are not much better and you have to take them
off every time you board. Tennis shoes have to be unlaced every time
you board a boat that allows no shoes.

I am looking for a pair of white rubber soled shoes that have good
support and can still be slipped on and off without having to tie and
untie them while balancing half a ton of sales literature.


The only shoes I've ever been able to survive standing on my feet at a
boat show in are New Balance shoes...and if my feet, legs and lower back
don't hurt after standing in 'em on a cement floor for 4-5 days, they
should get you through one or two. I don't know if they make a slip on,
though...mine are the lace up boat shoes they make for Sperry. But who
says they have to be boat shoes--or even white shoes--as long as they're
comfortable and have a light colored sole?

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Florida Keyz September 16th 03 04:36 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
try payless

Lew Hodgett September 16th 03 06:07 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 

"Glenn Ashmore" writes:

I need suggestions for the best boat show shoes. snip


Got a Payless in your area?

I buy low cut white tennis shoes with Velcro straps to use a "resin" shoes
when I'm laying glass.

$12-$15/pair.

Will provide adequate support for a couple of days at a show.

"show duty". Been there, done that, never want to do it again.

HTH


--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures



Peggie Hall September 16th 03 06:15 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
Lew Hodgett wrote:
"show duty". Been there, done that, never want to do it again.


I thought I was done with it when I sold my company...then I had to go
and write a damned book! :(


Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


RichH September 16th 03 06:21 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
New Balance / Harken loosely tied will work great.

BTW ... for those boat reps that require NO shoes to enter, consider to
show up and tell the salesperson that you are definitely INTERESTED in
'making a deal' ....TODAY. Then from your plastic shopping bag take
out and put on a Tyvek cleanroom jumpsuit with hood, face mask, latex
gloves, goggles, knee high clean room booties ..... and tell them that
you definitly dont want to become soiled/contaminated FROM their
'product' because of all the accumulated foot fungus, sweat, exfoliated
foot cells, etc. on the cabin sole .... while you 'finalize' your
decision. I think they will get the message.
I wonder if their warantee is void if you wear proper boat shoes once
you own it?


You also could have an artist, etc. 'paint on' a pair of socks on your
docksiders .... just as long the paint job matched your tube socks no
one would even notice!

;-)


Glenn Ashmore September 16th 03 06:49 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
I once invited my wife to spend a week in SF if she would help me man a
booth at the Realtor's convention. She has been afraid to travel with
me ever sence. :-)

Peggie Hall wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:

"show duty". Been there, done that, never want to do it again.



I thought I was done with it when I sold my company...then I had to go
and write a damned book! :(


Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html



--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Karin Conover-Lewis September 16th 03 06:57 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
There is also the problem that at some boat shows, and on some boats, they
don't care whether you're wearing boat shoes or not -- ALL shoes must be
removed before boarding. This is particularly true of the Long Beach and
Newport Beach shows, where as many as 25% of the boats being shown allow no
shoes of any kind. Just wear snazzy socks and the most comfortable walking
shoes you can find and still get on and off easily, I would say.

Or maybe you should be "Gellin'," as the Dr. Scholl's commercial insists.
;-)

--
Karin Conover-Lewis
Fair and Balanced since 1959
klc dot lewis at gte dot net (old -- don't use)
klc dot lewis at centurytel dot net (new)



"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
I need suggestions for the best boat show shoes. Regular deck shoes
look nautical and you can keep them on while inspecting many boats but
they leave a lot to be desired when you have to walk around in them for
10 or 12 hours. Loafers are not much better and you have to take them
off every time you board. Tennis shoes have to be unlaced every time
you board a boat that allows no shoes.

I am looking for a pair of white rubber soled shoes that have good
support and can still be slipped on and off without having to tie and
untie them while balancing half a ton of sales literature.


The only shoes I've ever been able to survive standing on my feet at a
boat show in are New Balance shoes...and if my feet, legs and lower back
don't hurt after standing in 'em on a cement floor for 4-5 days, they
should get you through one or two. I don't know if they make a slip on,
though...mine are the lace up boat shoes they make for Sperry. But who
says they have to be boat shoes--or even white shoes--as long as they're
comfortable and have a light colored sole?

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html




Larry W4CSC September 16th 03 07:24 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
Wonder why they can't make a deck tougher than penny loafer soles?

When they make you take off your shoes, don't you always get the
feeling their afraid you're gonna fall through the deck into the
bilge?....(c;

I noticed the Bayliner sales staff always makes everyone take off
their shoes....hee hee....Wonder why?



On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:17:16 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

I need suggestions for the best boat show shoes. Regular deck shoes
look nautical and you can keep them on while inspecting many boats but
they leave a lot to be desired when you have to walk around in them for
10 or 12 hours. Loafers are not much better and you have to take them
off every time you board. Tennis shoes have to be unlaced every time
you board a boat that allows no shoes.

I am looking for a pair of white rubber soled shoes that have good
support and can still be slipped on and off without having to tie and
untie them while balancing half a ton of sales literature.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com



Larry W4CSC

3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?

Rosalie B. September 16th 03 07:25 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
x-no-archive:yes "Lew Hodgett" wrote:


"Glenn Ashmore" writes:

I need suggestions for the best boat show shoes. snip


Got a Payless in your area?

I buy low cut white tennis shoes with Velcro straps to use a "resin" shoes
when I'm laying glass.

$12-$15/pair.

Will provide adequate support for a couple of days at a show.


That's what I'd suggest - I've got white tennis type (I don't think
they are really for tennis) velcro closure sneakers from Blair (men's
shoes) that I've worn almost to shreds. (Since I don't shop anymore
except by mail.) My husband goes to Payless and sometimes finds the
women's shoes are cheaper but work perfectly OK if you don't mind the
little aqua logo on them.

Actually for the boat I wear L.L. Bean boat shoes. For walking I wear
my sneakers.

"show duty". Been there, done that, never want to do it again.

HTH


grandma Rosalie

Larry W4CSC September 16th 03 07:28 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
Oh, I forgot......I met someone who always goes to boat shows in
street shoes wearing socks with holes in them. He agrees with me that
you should always look at boats wearing the same clothes you mow the
lawn in so they stop hovering around you like a pack of wolves around
a lamb.

Many ask him to put his shoes back ON before going aboard!....(c;

The funny part is there isn't a boat in the show he couldn't simply
write a personal check for in the full amount and it wouldn't bounce
Monday morning.....



Larry W4CSC

3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?

Peggie Hall September 16th 03 07:51 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
It suddenly occured to me that the simplest solution MIGHT just be a
huge pair of socks or a pair of tyvek booties that can be slipped on
over your shoes easily.

Just a thought...

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Jim Woodward September 16th 03 08:01 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
First, bring your own brief case, so you don't balance literature. I
have a nylon one that weighs next to nothing and will hold hat,
shades, sunscreen, little tape measure, digital camera, etc. as well
as tear sheets and catalogs. Warm shirt, too, if the weather is iffy.

As for shoes, I favor comfort over convenience and wear the same five
eyelet, Vibram sole Timberlands that I race in -- Newport and
Annapolis are better than Miami and New Orleans in that there's less
concrete underfoot (Ft. Lauderdale is in between), but I'm always sore
at the end of the day, and the short boots help a lot. Sure, I have to
take them off when I go on a boat (sometimes I just leave them off and
go barefoot on the floats), but it beats being lame by 1600.


Jim Woodward
www.mvfintry.com

Glenn Ashmore wrote in message ...
I need suggestions for the best boat show shoes. Regular deck shoes
look nautical and you can keep them on while inspecting many boats but
they leave a lot to be desired when you have to walk around in them for
10 or 12 hours. Loafers are not much better and you have to take them
off every time you board. Tennis shoes have to be unlaced every time
you board a boat that allows no shoes.

I am looking for a pair of white rubber soled shoes that have good
support and can still be slipped on and off without having to tie and
untie them while balancing half a ton of sales literature.


Glenn Ashmore September 16th 03 08:09 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 


Larry W4CSC wrote:
Oh, I forgot......I met someone who always goes to boat shows in
street shoes wearing socks with holes in them. He agrees with me that
you should always look at boats wearing the same clothes you mow the
lawn in so they stop hovering around you like a pack of wolves around
a lamb.


So very true. The first couple of years I went in bluejeans and
teeshirts and nobody but Peggie and Peter Kennedy would give me the time
of day. Then I changed to Duckheads and a Ceasar's Palace golf shirt
and the Hunter people almost kidnapped me. The Hunter salesman cornered
me in the head and wouldn't let me out until he got my address and phone
number. Still didn't get much help at the Harken booth. I think they
have to have seen your picture in a sailing mag before they will talk to
you.

I hope this year will be different. I have $30K to order hardware,
rigging and spars between now and the first of the year and a bunch of
questions. I wonder if it is possible to call in advance and arrange an
appointment?

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Skip Gundlach September 16th 03 08:52 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...
I hope this year will be different. I have $30K to order hardware,
rigging and spars between now and the first of the year and a bunch of
questions. I wonder if it is possible to call in advance and arrange an
appointment?


absolutely. They'd much prefer that, usually before or after the show
hours, unless it's absolutely dead. A list of what you're shopping for will
get them both salivating and sharpening their pencils if you let them know
who *else* you'll be seeing.

Been there, done that...

L8R

Skip


--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com




Peggie Hall September 16th 03 09:12 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
The first couple of years I went in bluejeans and
teeshirts and nobody but Peggie and Peter Kennedy would give me the time
of day.


I treat everyone the same way, 'cuz you never know who's "somebody" and
who isn't unless they're a celebrity. One year at the Annapolis show, I
spent about 45 minutes going over the relative merits of various toilets
with someone who was just a nice man in slacks, tee shirt and pair of
WELL worn topsiders. If he hadn't given me his card to send him
literature, I'd have had to have memorized the entire "who's who" of
whole Fortune 500 to know I'd just spent 45 minutes with the COB of a
major airline.


Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Jack Rye September 16th 03 11:20 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
I have found that K-Swiss Verstad Slip-on Casual Shoes with Dr. Scholl's
Massaging Gel Insoles. Are about the best combination of quick on and off
while leaving your feet comfortable and supported. even after walking all
day on concrete.

Jack

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...
I need suggestions for the best boat show shoes. Regular deck shoes
look nautical and you can keep them on while inspecting many boats but
they leave a lot to be desired when you have to walk around in them for
10 or 12 hours. Loafers are not much better and you have to take them
off every time you board. Tennis shoes have to be unlaced every time
you board a boat that allows no shoes.

I am looking for a pair of white rubber soled shoes that have good
support and can still be slipped on and off without having to tie and
untie them while balancing half a ton of sales literature.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com




LaBomba182 September 16th 03 11:40 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
Subject: Boat Show Shoes?
From: Glenn Ashmore


I am looking for a pair of white rubber soled shoes that have good
support and can still be slipped on and off without having to tie and
untie them while balancing half a ton of sales literature.


Slip on canvas boat shoes?

Capt. Bill

LaBomba182 September 16th 03 11:44 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
Subject: Boat Show Shoes?
From: Glenn Ashmore


I hope this year will be different. I have $30K to order hardware,
rigging and spars between now and the first of the year and a bunch of
questions. I wonder if it is possible to call in advance and arrange an
appointment?


Just tow the cash behind you in a glass safe with a little red wagon. That
should get their attention. :-)

Capt. Bill

LaBomba182 September 16th 03 11:47 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
Subject: Boat Show Shoes?
From: Peggie Hall


It suddenly occured to me that the simplest solution MIGHT just be a
huge pair of socks or a pair of tyvek booties that can be slipped on
over your shoes easily.

Just a thought...


We could sell them just outside the gate. Or better yet, just inside with the
show logo on them. :-)
What do you think Peggie?

Capt. Bill

Larry W4CSC September 17th 03 02:06 AM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 20:12:46 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:

Glenn Ashmore wrote:
The first couple of years I went in bluejeans and
teeshirts and nobody but Peggie and Peter Kennedy would give me the time
of day.


I treat everyone the same way, 'cuz you never know who's "somebody" and
who isn't unless they're a celebrity. One year at the Annapolis show, I
spent about 45 minutes going over the relative merits of various toilets
with someone who was just a nice man in slacks, tee shirt and pair of
WELL worn topsiders. If he hadn't given me his card to send him
literature, I'd have had to have memorized the entire "who's who" of
whole Fortune 500 to know I'd just spent 45 minutes with the COB of a
major airline.


Peggie


This is true. My friend Dan and I went to the little Charleston Boat
Show at the North Charleston Coliseum a couple of years back. Dan had
sold his Hatteras 56 and wanted a "small boat" with outboard to cruise
around the harbor in.

I warned him not to dress in his MUSC Doctor's Suit so we could poke
around in the boats and be ignored by the hawks. The lawn boy
uniforms worked great. We finally narrowed it down to a couple and
were poking around in a Grady White 20' runabout with a walk-through
windshield and nice bow seats with Yam 150 EFI engine on a nice
aluminum trailer. I was poking around in a cabinet when this nice
young man came over to see if he could help us.

Dan says to me in the cabinet, "What do you think?" To which I
snapped my fingers and said, from still inside the cabinet,
"Checkbook!" They had a nice discount on it for the show as most
Grady-White buyers want a CC for fishing Dan could care less about.
He turns to the astonished kid and says, "Can we pay for it now and
pick it up Monday from your store on Savannah Highway?" By that time
the "important suits" had taken more of a passing interest, about the
time Dan and the kid were sashaying over to the card table to complete
the contract. The looks on their faces having just lost a $35,000
sale on a hard-to-move boat was.....well.....Priceless...(c;

Myself, I thought the grass stained sneakers he was wearing at the
contract table went well with the green card table and foldin'
chairs....The kid seemed to like them, too!....(c;



Larry W4CSC

3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?

Larry W4CSC September 17th 03 02:12 AM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
On 16 Sep 2003 22:47:30 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Boat Show Shoes?
From: Peggie Hall


It suddenly occured to me that the simplest solution MIGHT just be a
huge pair of socks or a pair of tyvek booties that can be slipped on
over your shoes easily.

Just a thought...


We could sell them just outside the gate. Or better yet, just inside with the
show logo on them. :-)
What do you think Peggie?

Capt. Bill


God, they'd have a kanipshion fit if you SOLD something outside the
gate at any boat show around here......probably sic the cops on you!

We stopped at the IN-the-water boatshow for a beer with Mr Cannon of
Halsey-Cannon Boatyard about his pristinely restored "Boatyard Blue"
his yard bought for almost nothing from an insurance company after it
bashed up against a bridge for a whole hurricane. It's a nice sport
fisher yacht, now, and he uses it to sell his yard's capabilities.
The before pictures are awful.

The boat show crowd didn't seem to like the "good ol' boy" attitude
out there on the docks where the Hackercrafts and Azimuts were rocking
in the current....(c;

Halsey-Cannon Boatyard, Cainhoy, SC, up the Wando River if you're in
Charleston and your boat's broke. It's where Lionheart went the day
after it got here......



Larry W4CSC

3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?

Peggie Hall September 17th 03 02:58 AM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
It suddenly occured to me that the simplest solution MIGHT just be a
huge pair of socks or a pair of tyvek booties that can be slipped on
over your shoes easily.

Just a thought...



We could sell them just outside the gate. Or better yet, just inside with the
show logo on them. :-)
What do you think Peggie?


Forget the show logo...the show won't pay us squat to put their name on
'em. Let's make some money doing the same thing pro tennis players,
skiers, and race cars do--get every mfr we can find room for to pay big
bucks to put their logos on 'em!

You put up the money for the booties, I'll find the sponsors. :)


--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Gerald Simons September 17th 03 03:16 AM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
My son says New Balance are about the only brand he can find to fit his wide feet.

(Jim Woodward) wrote in message . com...
First, bring your own brief case, so you don't balance literature. I
have a nylon one that weighs next to nothing and will hold hat,
shades, sunscreen, little tape measure, digital camera, etc. as well
as tear sheets and catalogs. Warm shirt, too, if the weather is iffy.

As for shoes, I favor comfort over convenience and wear the same five
eyelet, Vibram sole Timberlands that I race in -- Newport and
Annapolis are better than Miami and New Orleans in that there's less
concrete underfoot (Ft. Lauderdale is in between), but I'm always sore
at the end of the day, and the short boots help a lot. Sure, I have to
take them off when I go on a boat (sometimes I just leave them off and
go barefoot on the floats), but it beats being lame by 1600.


Jim Woodward
www.mvfintry.com

Glenn Ashmore wrote in message ...
I need suggestions for the best boat show shoes. Regular deck shoes
look nautical and you can keep them on while inspecting many boats but
they leave a lot to be desired when you have to walk around in them for
10 or 12 hours. Loafers are not much better and you have to take them
off every time you board. Tennis shoes have to be unlaced every time
you board a boat that allows no shoes.

I am looking for a pair of white rubber soled shoes that have good
support and can still be slipped on and off without having to tie and
untie them while balancing half a ton of sales literature.


Glenn Ashmore September 17th 03 03:24 AM

Boat Show Shoes?
 


Peggie Hall wrote:
It suddenly occured to me that the simplest solution MIGHT just
be a huge pair of socks or a pair of tyvek booties that can be
slipped on over your shoes easily.


We could sell them just outside the gate. Or better yet, just
inside with the show logo on them. :-) What do you think Peggie?


Forget the show logo...the show won't pay us squat to put their name
on 'em. Let's make some money doing the same thing pro tennis
players, skiers, and race cars do--get every mfr we can find room for
to pay big bucks to put their logos on 'em!

You put up the money for the booties, I'll find the sponsors. :)


You know, that's not a bad idea! The Official r.b.c. boat bootie!

A slip on Tyvek bootie with an elastic ankle band and lots of logos. A
box of 200 Tyvek shoe covers with nonslip soles cost $100.00 at
Grainger. Polypropylene is $40. For a few thousand pair direct from
the manufacturer we are probably talking under a quarter a pair. Two
bucks a pair to cover the production, sellers pay and expenses and all
the logo fees are profit.

To late for this year but we need to remember that for next year's show
season. :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Rosalie B. September 17th 03 03:34 AM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
x-no-archive:yes Peggie Hall wrote:

Glenn Ashmore wrote:
The first couple of years I went in bluejeans and
teeshirts and nobody but Peggie and Peter Kennedy would give me the time
of day.


I treat everyone the same way, 'cuz you never know who's "somebody" and
who isn't unless they're a celebrity. One year at the Annapolis show, I


It's polite to treat everyone with respect. The fact that you do
shows that you are a class act. (which we all know of course). The
fact that so few people know that being polite and helpful to everyone
regardless of their appearance or station in life is a sad commentary
on the upbringing and manners and maybe even the ethics of the
majority.

spent about 45 minutes going over the relative merits of various toilets
with someone who was just a nice man in slacks, tee shirt and pair of
WELL worn topsiders. If he hadn't given me his card to send him
literature, I'd have had to have memorized the entire "who's who" of
whole Fortune 500 to know I'd just spent 45 minutes with the COB of a
major airline.


Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327
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Rosalie B. September 17th 03 03:40 AM

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Glenn Ashmore wrote:

Peggie Hall wrote:
It suddenly occured to me that the simplest solution MIGHT just
be a huge pair of socks or a pair of tyvek booties that can be
slipped on over your shoes easily.

We could sell them just outside the gate. Or better yet, just
inside with the show logo on them. :-) What do you think Peggie?


Forget the show logo...the show won't pay us squat to put their name
on 'em. Let's make some money doing the same thing pro tennis
players, skiers, and race cars do--get every mfr we can find room for
to pay big bucks to put their logos on 'em!

You put up the money for the booties, I'll find the sponsors. :)


You know, that's not a bad idea! The Official r.b.c. boat bootie!

A slip on Tyvek bootie with an elastic ankle band and lots of logos. A
box of 200 Tyvek shoe covers with nonslip soles cost $100.00 at
Grainger. Polypropylene is $40. For a few thousand pair direct from
the manufacturer we are probably talking under a quarter a pair. Two
bucks a pair to cover the production, sellers pay and expenses and all
the logo fees are profit.


Having used Tyvek booties, I would be concerned that they would be
slippery which wouldn't be good on a boat. My husband slipped on some
aluminum dust that was on his shoes (due to putting in mast steps) and
fell down the companionway into the main saloon dislocating his
shoulder. Plus were you thinking that people would wear them from
boat to boat? They'd get just as dirty as shoes.

Even socks are slippery unless you put non-skid on them, which would
rachet the cost up.


To late for this year but we need to remember that for next year's show
season. :-)


Not that I want to throw cold water on the project - just a thought.

grandma Rosalie

Peggie Hall September 17th 03 04:14 AM

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Glenn Ashmore wrote:
To late for this year but we need to remember that for next year's show
season. :-)


Annapolis isn't the only boat show...there are a whole BUNCH starting
after the first of the year. There is time to at least test market the
idea at one or more of 'em...and Annapolis would be a good place to find
out whether Rosie's concerns are a deal breaker.

So...where in Annapolis shall we hold the first board meeting? :)

Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Larry W4CSC September 17th 03 04:23 AM

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Tyvek won't breathe and will make your feet sweat something
awful.......

How about that nice soft material with the plastic soles Cathay
Pacific gives out for "cabin booties" on their most wonderful flights
from Gatwick to the Middle East and Asia? There's something soft in
the soles on the inside which make your feet feel wanted, not all
sweaty!



On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 22:24:13 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:



Peggie Hall wrote:
It suddenly occured to me that the simplest solution MIGHT just
be a huge pair of socks or a pair of tyvek booties that can be
slipped on over your shoes easily.

We could sell them just outside the gate. Or better yet, just
inside with the show logo on them. :-) What do you think Peggie?


Forget the show logo...the show won't pay us squat to put their name
on 'em. Let's make some money doing the same thing pro tennis
players, skiers, and race cars do--get every mfr we can find room for
to pay big bucks to put their logos on 'em!

You put up the money for the booties, I'll find the sponsors. :)


You know, that's not a bad idea! The Official r.b.c. boat bootie!

A slip on Tyvek bootie with an elastic ankle band and lots of logos. A
box of 200 Tyvek shoe covers with nonslip soles cost $100.00 at
Grainger. Polypropylene is $40. For a few thousand pair direct from
the manufacturer we are probably talking under a quarter a pair. Two
bucks a pair to cover the production, sellers pay and expenses and all
the logo fees are profit.

To late for this year but we need to remember that for next year's show
season. :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com



Larry W4CSC

3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?

Larry W4CSC September 17th 03 04:28 AM

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On 16 Sep 2003 19:16:00 -0700, (Gerald
Simons) wrote:

My son says New Balance are about the only brand he can find to fit his wide feet.

A black kid and his mother came into our little Chinese fast food
place at dinner tonight. He had to duck under the door frame to get
inside. I asked him how tall he was....6' 3". "He's only 13.", his
mother said, proudly.....

The Nikes on his feet looked big enough to use for a dingy with about
a 5hp outboard on them.....(c;

Boater to the lady at the boat license counter at DNR - "Yes, ma'am.
We use 'em to get from the sailboat to the dock. If we only put the
outboard on one of 'em, do we have to license them both?"



Larry W4CSC

3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?

Glenn Ashmore September 17th 03 05:25 AM

Boat Show Shoes?
 


Rosalie B. wrote:

Having used Tyvek booties, I would be concerned that they would be
slippery which wouldn't be good on a boat. My husband slipped on some
aluminum dust that was on his shoes (due to putting in mast steps) and
fell down the companionway into the main saloon dislocating his
shoulder. Plus were you thinking that people would wear them from
boat to boat? They'd get just as dirty as shoes.

Even socks are slippery unless you put non-skid on them, which would
rachet the cost up.


The ones I was thinking about have a soft knobby grip surface on the
soles. I got a box for the boat shed 'cause when we were glassing the
hull the shed floor was awash in epoxy. They worked really well until
the epoxy started setting up. Then the problem was definitely not
slipping. It was moving. :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


LaBomba182 September 17th 03 03:05 PM

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Subject: Boat Show Shoes?
From: Peggie Hall


You put up the money for the booties, I'll find the sponsors. :)


Deal!

Capt. Bill

LaBomba182 September 17th 03 03:07 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
Subject: Boat Show Shoes?
From: Glenn Ashmore


To late for this year but we need to remember that for next year's show
season. :-)


We! Do you have a mouse in your pocket Glenn? :-)

Capt. Bill

LaBomba182 September 17th 03 03:08 PM

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Subject: Boat Show Shoes?
From: Peggie Hall


So...where in Annapolis shall we hold the first board meeting? :)


Your booth?

Capt. Bill

Peggie Hall September 17th 03 03:23 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
LaBomba182 wrote:
Subject: Boat Show Shoes?
From: Glenn Ashmore



To late for this year but we need to remember that for next year's show
season. :-)



We! Do you have a mouse in your pocket Glenn? :-)

Capt. Bill


Let's not shut out any potential investors! :)

--
Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Peggie Hall September 17th 03 03:28 PM

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LaBomba182 wrote:
So...where in Annapolis shall we hold the first board meeting? :)


Your booth?

Capt. Bill


Not my booth, but my publisher's...it'll be too busy. This will have to
be a lunch or dinner meeting.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Glenn Ashmore September 17th 03 04:27 PM

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Peggie Hall wrote:
LaBomba182 wrote:

So...where in Annapolis shall we hold the first board meeting? :)


Your booth?

Capt. Bill



Not my booth, but my publisher's...it'll be too busy. This will have to
be a lunch or dinner meeting.


Thursday or Friday is fine with me.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


John September 17th 03 10:09 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
Glenn Ashmore wrote in message ...
I need suggestions for the best boat show shoes. Regular deck shoes
look nautical and you can keep them on while inspecting many boats but
they leave a lot to be desired when you have to walk around in them for
10 or 12 hours. Loafers are not much better and you have to take them
off every time you board. Tennis shoes have to be unlaced every time
you board a boat that allows no shoes.

I am looking for a pair of white rubber soled shoes that have good
support and can still be slipped on and off without having to tie and
untie them while balancing half a ton of sales literature.


Go for a pair of the boating sneakers. If they want you to take them
off to board their boat, simply say no thanks, and leave. Their is no
good reason for them to ask you to remove clean boating shoes. If more
people simply refused to take their boating shoes off, they would
change their minds, they need people to buy their products. No
lookers, no customers.

I did this at the Norwark show a few years ago at one of the large
sport fishing manufacturers boats. They knew I was representing a
buyer, I said no and went to leave. They let me on with my shoes.

Peggie Hall September 17th 03 10:45 PM

Boat Show Shoes?
 
Go for a pair of the boating sneakers. If they want you to take them
off to board their boat, simply say no thanks, and leave. Their is no
good reason for them to ask you to remove clean boating shoes. If more
people simply refused to take their boating shoes off, they would
change their minds, they need people to buy their products. No
lookers, no customers.

I did this at the Norwark show a few years ago at one of the large
sport fishing manufacturers boats. They knew I was representing a
buyer, I said no and went to leave. They let me on with my shoes.


I'm inclined to side with the boat dealers on this one, at least when it
comes to outdoor shows. Shoe soles pick up a lot of grit etc...and it's
one thing to let the odd one or two people who absolutely refuse to take
off their shoes, quite another to let several hundred--even a thousand
at a large show like Annapolis or Miami--people track it aboard,
grinding it into the deck and carpet. A boat can take more wear and tear
in a single show than any owner can do to it in several years. And you
wouldn't believe some of the stories I've heard about the things people
will do...everything from using the head (and not just liquid waste) to
having sex in the aft cabin to changing the baby and leaving the dirty
diaper in a galley locker to giving an older child food that he smears
all over everything. Anyone who can pay for a ticket can get into a
boat show, and a surprising number of people are pigs. So I can't fault
boat dealers for doing as much as they can do to protect their boats.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html



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