I have a chance to salvage and sell a Perkins 4-108 from a fishing boat that
is going to be scuttled or scrapped. The original owner of this boat died
and ownership changed hands. Therefore I can't obtain any history on the
engine.

This engine will still turn over but since the fuel has been removed, I
can't start it to see how it runs.. It was running fine when the boat was
abandon at the marina 6 years ago. (I emptied the fuel tanks 6 months ago
and the fuel had been treated and was still ing good condition) The engine
looks like it had been well maintained.

The only thing that it will cost me, is my labor..

If I ultimately am able to start and run this engine, how much would it go
for (complete with,electrical, coolers and reverse gear)?? Say on eBay or
rec.boat.marketplace ??

I know this model has been around for many years. What kind of reputation
does it have among rec. boaters??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Steve,
A rebuilt Perkins 4-108 complete with everything goes for $3500 at
Complete Yacht here in Ft. Lauderdale.

Kelton
s/v Isle Escape

Steve wrote:
I have a chance to salvage and sell a Perkins 4-108 from a fishing boat that
is going to be scuttled or scrapped. The original owner of this boat died
and ownership changed hands. Therefore I can't obtain any history on the
engine.

This engine will still turn over but since the fuel has been removed, I
can't start it to see how it runs.. It was running fine when the boat was
abandon at the marina 6 years ago. (I emptied the fuel tanks 6 months ago
and the fuel had been treated and was still ing good condition) The engine
looks like it had been well maintained.

The only thing that it will cost me, is my labor..

If I ultimately am able to start and run this engine, how much would it go
for (complete with,electrical, coolers and reverse gear)?? Say on eBay or
rec.boat.marketplace ??

I know this model has been around for many years. What kind of reputation
does it have among rec. boaters??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

If they run they are worth a few bucks--if not a few bucks less---However, they
are worth a tad more than the 4-107----clean the starter,get new fuel,strong
battery , bottle of Jim Beam (large), ,can of wd-40, electric fuel pump. Take a
swig of the JB (two fingers worth,index and little)flip on the electric pump
and while the engine is turning squirt a tad of wd 40. If it doesn.t start,take
another swig,repeat the wd 40,Just keep swigging,wd40ing and it will start.
don't use either and don't do the wd40 unless it is turning---If that does not
get it started,try S56 and Jack Daniels--This procedure has always worked for
me---

Right.... and after the third try, you don't care if it starts or not...

Leanne
S/V Fundy

"JOEANDKV" wrote in message
...
If they run they are worth a few bucks--if not a few bucks less---However,
they
are worth a tad more than the 4-107----clean the starter,get new fuel,strong
battery , bottle of Jim Beam (large), ,can of wd-40, electric fuel pump. Take
a
swig of the JB (two fingers worth,index and little)flip on the electric pump
and while the engine is turning squirt a tad of wd 40. If it doesn.t
start,take
another swig,repeat the wd 40,Just keep swigging,wd40ing and it will start.
don't use either and don't do the wd40 unless it is turning---If that does not
get it started,try S56 and Jack Daniels--This procedure has always worked for
me---

The one we inherited with Lionheart, an Amel Sharki ketch, has about
7000 hours on it and runs just great after the shop cleaned the scale
out of the heat exchanger. One of the guys I met on here in NC sold
us his old 4-108, complete with transmission, all controls, manuals,
etc. for $1200 cash, a great bargain. It's in the shop being
evaluated now at General Diesel in Charleston. They said at 800 hours
it was in fine condition, though the starter looks a little rough.

Even at 7000 hours, this nice Perkins 4-108 cranks right up in seconds
and gives the ketch plenty of power to freeze the coldplate, power the
boat and run two big alternators to charge the batteries. Amazing
machines.....don't hesitate.

And they are SIMPLE, which is also very nice.

PS - Don't forget to hook up the STOP solenoid or she'll just go on
running and running and running....(c;



On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:11:59 -0700, "Steve" wrote:

I have a chance to salvage and sell a Perkins 4-108 from a fishing boat that
is going to be scuttled or scrapped. The original owner of this boat died
and ownership changed hands. Therefore I can't obtain any history on the
engine.

This engine will still turn over but since the fuel has been removed, I
can't start it to see how it runs.. It was running fine when the boat was
abandon at the marina 6 years ago. (I emptied the fuel tanks 6 months ago
and the fuel had been treated and was still ing good condition) The engine
looks like it had been well maintained.

The only thing that it will cost me, is my labor..

If I ultimately am able to start and run this engine, how much would it go
for (complete with,electrical, coolers and reverse gear)?? Say on eBay or
rec.boat.marketplace ??

I know this model has been around for many years. What kind of reputation
does it have among rec. boaters??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Larry W4CSC

3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:15:07 -0400, "Leanne" wrote:

Right.... and after the third try, you don't care if it starts or not...

Leanne
S/V Fundy

With 2 fingers of JB, starting the diesel has become secondary in
importance.



Larry W4CSC

3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?

If it needs more encouragement, spray a little wd40 in _before_
cranking. Cover the intake (after removing the spark arrestor or filter)
completely with your palm and crank it up to speed (about 2-3 secs),
pull you hand of while still cranking and shoot some more wd40 in. If
that doesn't do it, somethings wrong with the valves. You shouldn't need
the optional intake heater unless it's close to freezing.

Covering the intake prevents the cylinders from getting much air at all
and makes it much easier for the starter to crank it fast so the fly
wheel can then help get it started. It will run on WD40 as long as you
keep spraying it - don't even need fuel.

Starters can be handled by you local auto starter/alternator shop -
leastwise I got mine rebuilt there. Parts come from the "local" farm
machinery or road equipment shop. The heat exchangers commonly installed
seem to be a tad on the small side, so it might overheat unless
exchanger is in like-new condition.

Very nice engines.

Good luck. Hope you get the old trooper back on the line. g

Rufus

We had a friend whose Choate 37 was stolen and run upon a sand bar. The
thieves pegged the throttle and when the boat wouldn't free itself, they
abandoned the ship and left it running - full throttle! That engine was
a Perkins 4-108. Eventually, it ran out of fuel, and stopped running.
The owners recovered it at high tide, restarted the motor and it runs to
this day. It's a great motor.

good luck

Steve wrote:
I have a chance to salvage and sell a Perkins 4-108 from a fishing boat that
is going to be scuttled or scrapped. The original owner of this boat died
and ownership changed hands. Therefore I can't obtain any history on the
engine.

This engine will still turn over but since the fuel has been removed, I
can't start it to see how it runs.. It was running fine when the boat was
abandon at the marina 6 years ago. (I emptied the fuel tanks 6 months ago
and the fuel had been treated and was still ing good condition) The engine
looks like it had been well maintained.

The only thing that it will cost me, is my labor..

If I ultimately am able to start and run this engine, how much would it go
for (complete with,electrical, coolers and reverse gear)?? Say on eBay or
rec.boat.marketplace ??

I know this model has been around for many years. What kind of reputation
does it have among rec. boaters??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Pretty bombproof workhorse.

6 years..... remove/recondition the injectors, while you're waiting,
fill the crankcase with "marvel mystery oil", inject a few
tablespoonfuls of MMO to the combustion chamber, spin the starter, let
sit for a few days/weeks. Will free up any stuck rings, etc.
Suck out the MMO from the combustion chambers, reinstall the injectors &
start the engine (have rag ready to stuff in the air intake in case of
'runaway') Bring to operating temp (at no load) to polish the cylinder
walls. Let soak a week. Rewarm, etc. Drain the crankcase .....
Should remove the carbon crap from the piston ring grooves, polish the
rust from the cyl. walls --- will probably have MORE compression than
when the engine was shut down 6 years ago.

After the fifth try you have forgotten you are on a boat.

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:15:07 -0400, "Leanne" wrote:

Right.... and after the third try, you don't care if it starts or not...

Leanne
S/V Fundy

With 2 fingers of JB, starting the diesel has become secondary in
importance.



Larry W4CSC

3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?