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DSK November 27th 06 05:21 PM

Toilet orientation
 
"JimB" wrote
Ah. I can tell you all about that. Got airborne when butting through the
wake of a high speed ferry. Landed off centre. Pedestal broke off at the
base . . . need I say more?

Four stitches.


I bet the embarassment hurt even worse.

The real answer is two heads, one each side of the vessel, each set
athwartships. For serious work, you can then inhabit the downhill one, and
rest in peace with your back against the bulkhead. Much better than being
pitched nose forward from the uphill one, pants around your ankles . . .
need I say more?

Broken nose and dignity.
--


Makes heaving-to for a potty break sound very sensible! Not
an option when racing though, it's bad enough when you are
taking a desperately needed break from the spinnaker and the
skipper keeps yelling 'Hurry up, dammit!'


KLC Lewis wrote:
Say no more. This brings to mind my ultimate head installation idea: The
Gimballed Head. I've never seen it done, and it would have significant
problems to overcome for hose connections, but it could make for a very
peaceful "pause that refreshes."


It would have to be fairly well aft, near the center of
rotation of the hull, and you'd want it lockable at a
selected angle. Otherwise the contents of the potty would
slosh out... more embarassment...

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



KLC Lewis November 27th 06 05:42 PM

Toilet orientation
 

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .

KLC Lewis wrote:
Say no more. This brings to mind my ultimate head installation idea: The
Gimballed Head. I've never seen it done, and it would have significant
problems to overcome for hose connections, but it could make for a very
peaceful "pause that refreshes."


It would have to be fairly well aft, near the center of rotation of the
hull, and you'd want it lockable at a selected angle. Otherwise the
contents of the potty would slosh out... more embarassment...

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



Yeah...very embarassing indeed. lol And again, the best possible location
for the perfect head (gimballed, of course) would be on the centerline right
smack dab in the middle of the pivot point -- which is usually right in the
middle of the saloon and/or galley area. Perhaps hidden under the dinette
table, which would hoist up to the overhead for those private moments? Think
of the added living and storage space if we don't have to dedicate a whole
compartment to that bucket! And it could maybe even double as a compost bin
for our produce trimmings and coffee grounds.

MMMMmmmmmmmm...I can smell it now. Nearly as good as being on the Mayflower.



Larry November 27th 06 05:44 PM

Toilet orientation
 
chuck wrote in news:1164640131_31999
@sp6iad.superfeed.net:

Pitching and rolling are factors, but what of an ocean-going sailboat
heeled to port or stbd for days or weeks at a time?



Isn't that what the lee rail is for?.....(c;

DOWNWIND, DAMMIT, DOWNWIND!!

Larry
--
If we eliminate religion, will they stop murdering each other?

Matt O'Toole November 27th 06 06:44 PM

Toilet orientation
 
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:58:49 -0600, KLC Lewis wrote:

I too have always thought that centerline orientation is best for the head.
Unfortunately, I've never seen a smaller-to-moderately sized boat where this
works. Of course, one could always make the head the focal point of the
boat, but most visitors would find it odd.


In many smaller sailboats, the V-berth is practically unusable anyway, so
why not just make it into a head/lazarette compartment? Notable examples
would be the Morse Bristol Channel Cutter, and a whole bunch of trailer
sailors (which have it under the middle of the V-berth).

Matt O.


Don White November 27th 06 07:44 PM

Toilet orientation
 
Matt O'Toole wrote:

In many smaller sailboats, the V-berth is practically unusable anyway, so
why not just make it into a head/lazarette compartment? Notable examples
would be the Morse Bristol Channel Cutter, and a whole bunch of trailer
sailors (which have it under the middle of the V-berth).

Matt O.


Sounds like my Sandpiper 565 with an MSD c/w deck pumpout.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/Hpim0171.jpg

Larry November 27th 06 09:16 PM

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"KLC Lewis" wrote in
:

MMMMmmmmmmmm...I can smell it now. Nearly as good as being on the
Mayflower.




See? I told ya....OVER THE LEE HANDRAIL! Problem solves itself...(c;



Larry
--
If we eliminate religion, will they stop murdering each other?

Larry November 27th 06 09:28 PM

Toilet orientation
 
Matt O'Toole wrote in
g:

In many smaller sailboats, the V-berth is practically unusable anyway, so
why not just make it into a head/lazarette compartment?


Tell you what, Matt. Take any boat under 30' out to sea under sail. Take
a pan about the size of a toilet bowl into the V-berth with 4" of water in
the bottom of it and see if you can hold it without getting wet.

Question answers itself....

Anyways, the V-berth is never "practically unusable", in port or at sea.
After you've cleaned up the mess from the pan experiment, let some sweet
young thing take you up in the V-berth for a couple of hours of R&R....then
come back aft and tell us how "practically unusable" it was....with all
that vertical motion...

AND WIPE THAT SMILE OFF YOUR FACE!

V-berths are the most wonderful places on the boat....in the right
circumstances, of course....(c;

Larry
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Larry November 27th 06 09:32 PM

Toilet orientation
 
Don White wrote in news:feHah.25690$cz.390868
@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/Hpim0171.jpg


No paper?!

Peggie Hall November 27th 06 10:35 PM

Toilet orientation
 
KLC Lewis wrote:

I too have always thought that centerline orientation is best for the head.
Unfortunately, I've never seen a smaller-to-moderately sized boat where this
works. Of course, one could always make the head the focal point of the
boat, but most visitors would find it odd.


LOL Perhaps not if it were a portapotty with a "dropleaf" lid panels
that would allow it to double as a coffee table....?? :)

(sorry...but the mental images were just irresistable)

--
Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/books...ku=90&cat=1304

KLC Lewis November 27th 06 10:41 PM

Toilet orientation
 

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
. ..
KLC Lewis wrote:

I too have always thought that centerline orientation is best for the
head. Unfortunately, I've never seen a smaller-to-moderately sized boat
where this works. Of course, one could always make the head the focal
point of the boat, but most visitors would find it odd.


LOL Perhaps not if it were a portapotty with a "dropleaf" lid panels
that would allow it to double as a coffee table....?? :)

(sorry...but the mental images were just irresistable)

--
Peggie
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Hmmm...maybe this is doable after all! lol

It just occured to me that right smack in the middle of my saloon/galley
area is a removable bilge cover. Maybe if I chiseled-out some of that
concrete I could set the porta-potti down there... OOps -- I forgot. The
Bilge Beaver wouldn't take kindly to my intruding into his living space.




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