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NE Sailboat November 23rd 06 02:09 AM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
Funny, I was thinking about this tonight .. why? I have no idea.

Do those small black and white tv's work? How much power? How do you power
one? Battery?

While I have your attention :: how much power does a laptop take up?

Also, how long will a laptop run before it is out of juice?



KLC Lewis November 23rd 06 02:23 AM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 

"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:3p79h.6678$LH2.5008@trndny04...
Funny, I was thinking about this tonight .. why? I have no idea.

Do those small black and white tv's work? How much power? How do you
power one? Battery?

While I have your attention :: how much power does a laptop take up?

Also, how long will a laptop run before it is out of juice?


I was thinking of installing a 42" plasma screen on my forward saloon
bulkhead so I can play "Virtual Skipper" on it.



NE Sailboat November 23rd 06 02:38 AM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:3p79h.6678$LH2.5008@trndny04...
Funny, I was thinking about this tonight .. why? I have no idea.

Do those small black and white tv's work? How much power? How do you
power one? Battery?

While I have your attention :: how much power does a laptop take up?

Also, how long will a laptop run before it is out of juice?


I was thinking of installing a 42" plasma screen on my forward saloon
bulkhead so I can play "Virtual Skipper" on it.




Capt. Rob November 23rd 06 02:44 AM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 

Aboard Heart of Gold we use a little Sony portable DVD player. It also
folds up flat and can be mounted on a bulkhead. Costs about 180 bucks.

See it he
http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/navnavyweb.jpg

It runs on DC, AC or 6 hours on a charge. We barely used it last
season, so plans for a more elaborate pair of screens are on hold.
Buy one from a Circuit City type store and by the 2 or 3 year warranty.
If it falls in the bilge you're covered!



Robert
35s5
NY


Dennis Pogson November 23rd 06 10:15 AM

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NE Sailboat wrote:
Funny, I was thinking about this tonight .. why? I have no idea.

Do those small black and white tv's work? How much power? How do
you power one? Battery?

While I have your attention :: how much power does a laptop take up?

Also, how long will a laptop run before it is out of juice?


I love that last question!

On the Queen Mary 2, quite a long time, but on your boat? Not sure.

Do they still make black and white TVs?

Dennis.



just me November 23rd 06 01:11 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
We have a 20" Sharp Aquos flat screen attached to a VCR and DVD player. I'd
like more audio (hearing loss), but it's a great set up.





Bill Kearney November 23rd 06 02:17 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
Do those small black and white tv's work? How much power? How do you
power
one? Battery?


20" Sharp Aquos, 12vDC. DVD player with it's audio looped into the Clarion
head unit. Video out goes to the TV and the Raymarine E-80 chartplotter.
Video on the chartplotter is basically pointless on our particular setup but
I connected it "because I could". The audio looped to the radio really
improves watching movies. MUCH better sound than the speakers on the TV
itself.

While I have your attention :: how much power does a laptop take up?


It varies quite a bit between different laptops. There are also different
ways to power them. You can either use an inverter and the normal power
brick, or get one designed to run off 12vDC. The latter generally consume
less wattage, and are also usually quite a bit smaller/lighter than the
regular AC power brick.

Also, how long will a laptop run before it is out of juice?


My ancient 1ghz Toshiba runs about 2 hours, but the wife's tiny little Sony
gets 8 hours.


Rosalie B. November 23rd 06 02:56 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
"Bill Kearney" wrote:

Do those small black and white tv's work? How much power? How do you

power
one? Battery?


20" Sharp Aquos, 12vDC. DVD player with it's audio looped into the Clarion
head unit. Video out goes to the TV and the Raymarine E-80 chartplotter.
Video on the chartplotter is basically pointless on our particular setup but
I connected it "because I could". The audio looped to the radio really
improves watching movies. MUCH better sound than the speakers on the TV
itself.

We have two TVs on board - one for the main saloon and one for the aft
cabin (where we sleep).

The one in the aft cabin is a dual voltage color TV/VCR combo. It is
hooked to the follow-me antenna for the Direct TV satellite dish. It
is a little bigger than the dual voltage one we got for our son when
he was driving flatbed trucks all over the US.

We also have a regular old shore power TV in the main saloon, but we
don't use that one unless we are at a marina. It is also hooked to
the satellite.

While I have your attention :: how much power does a laptop take up?


It varies quite a bit between different laptops. There are also different
ways to power them. You can either use an inverter and the normal power
brick, or get one designed to run off 12vDC. The latter generally consume
less wattage, and are also usually quite a bit smaller/lighter than the
regular AC power brick.


You can also get 12v power bricks for some of them designed to run off
the cigarette lighter outlet in the car. Even with that, they still
put out a lot of interference if you are going to run the SSB.

Also, how long will a laptop run before it is out of juice?


My ancient 1ghz Toshiba runs about 2 hours, but the wife's tiny little Sony
gets 8 hours.


It depends not only on the power draw and the size of the batteries
relative to that, but also on the state of the batteries. My mom's
old laptop has no rechargeablity left and will not run on the
batteries at all. My old laptop will last about a half an hour or 45
minutes where it used to be able to go almost 2 hours. This one with
newer batteries will last 2 hours or more.


Ryk November 23rd 06 06:37 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:09:03 GMT, in message
3p79h.6678$LH2.5008@trndny04
"NE Sailboat" wrote:

Funny, I was thinking about this tonight .. why? I have no idea.

Do those small black and white tv's work? How much power? How do you power
one? Battery?

While I have your attention :: how much power does a laptop take up?

Also, how long will a laptop run before it is out of juice?


I have an older IBM Thinkpad with DVD onboard. It will run almost the
full length of a movie without, but not quite. Plugged into the
battery it eats about 5 amps of 12 volt DC while running either on the
inverter or with the DC/DC power adapter.

The sound from the laptop is not adequate, but I have fixed that by
upgrading the stereo to a unit that has an aux input on the front
panel suitable for iPods or computers.

Ryk


Rosalie B. November 24th 06 12:51 AM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
Gogarty wrote:

In article ,
says...


We have a 20" Sharp Aquos flat screen attached to a VCR and DVD player. I'd
like more audio (hearing loss), but it's a great set up.

I am pretty deaf too (or is that "hearing impaired"?). May I suigest to you a
set of infrared wireless earphones? A little transmitter goes on top of the TV
and you wear the earphones, which have volume control. Anywhere you can see
the TV you can hear it too. They have saved my sanity and our marriage. Wife
can play the TV at whatever level she likes or even turn the speakers off. I
can listen to it at any level I want without disturbing anyone else. We have
two sets, one for the boat and one for home. In winter the boat set becomes
the bedroom set. The transmitter has a wall wart while the earphones run on
two AA batteries. I think they cost around $30 mail order. Wife buys them.


I hate earphones (also hearing impaired but not as much as my
husband). We just put the captions on the TV. Then we can have the
sound off and still know what is going on.

There is also a radio frequency set that broadcasts on the 9 MZ band (I
think). With the4se you don't have to be line of sight to the TV but can hear
it anywhere within range. But we found them very subject to interference and
sent them back.

Still on deafness, gave up on zillion dollar hearing aids long ago. Have a
drawer full of them. I now use a $10 gadget that fits in my shirt pocket and
connects to earphones. Everybody walks around with earphones these days so you
don't look funny. The improvement in sociability is dramatic. Wife buys these
too, by the half dozen so there is always one available. My only complaint is
no tone control.



Tim November 24th 06 06:52 AM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
I don't have one on the boat. I probably won't. The closest thing I
have to a TV is a depthfinder. But I do have an AMFM CD player .

When we're out on the boat, That's it. ..just us and the boat.

If I wanted to watch TV, I'd stay home with the big screen,.


NE Sailboat wrote:
Funny, I was thinking about this tonight .. why? I have no idea.

Do those small black and white tv's work? How much power? How do you power
one? Battery?

While I have your attention :: how much power does a laptop take up?

Also, how long will a laptop run before it is out of juice?



NE Sailboat November 24th 06 02:10 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
Since I don't have a "big screen" at home ....... a little screen on board
should be ok ... right?

I checked around and the dvd players are selling for $50 bucks ( that is the
price on the black Friday flyer ).

I clicked on a web site that said the battery should go 6 hours. Some of
them do battery packs, so you can bring two all powered up when you leave
for a cruise.

I also have a cd/am/fm/ stereo on board. I am adding a laptop for the boat.
Haven't bought it yet. The laptop will be used for navigation as well as
goofing.

With so much out there for sale, check ebay, why not?


Still must sail the boat though.


---
"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...
I don't have one on the boat. I probably won't. The closest thing I
have to a TV is a depthfinder. But I do have an AMFM CD player .

When we're out on the boat, That's it. ..just us and the boat.

If I wanted to watch TV, I'd stay home with the big screen,.


NE Sailboat wrote:
Funny, I was thinking about this tonight .. why? I have no idea.

Do those small black and white tv's work? How much power? How do you
power
one? Battery?

While I have your attention :: how much power does a laptop take up?

Also, how long will a laptop run before it is out of juice?





KLC Lewis November 24th 06 02:26 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 

"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:F3D9h.7399$d42.2447@trndny07...
Since I don't have a "big screen" at home ....... a little screen on board
should be ok ... right?

I checked around and the dvd players are selling for $50 bucks ( that is
the price on the black Friday flyer ).

I clicked on a web site that said the battery should go 6 hours. Some of
them do battery packs, so you can bring two all powered up when you leave
for a cruise.

I also have a cd/am/fm/ stereo on board. I am adding a laptop for the
boat. Haven't bought it yet. The laptop will be used for navigation as
well as goofing.

With so much out there for sale, check ebay, why not?


Still must sail the boat though.


There is at least one really good reason for having a TV aboard, at least
for coastal and/or Great Lakes sailing: Weather Reports. Here in Green Bay,
where storms can pop up with little or no notice and travel 30 miles per
hour, it's nice to be able to tune into the local news and see what's
developing on doppler radar. Our official NWS reports on VHF are usually
(or at least too often) so wrong as to be laughable, if not dangerous.



Rosalie B. November 24th 06 02:31 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
Gogarty wrote:

In article ,
says...

I hate earphones (also hearing impaired but not as much as my
husband). We just put the captions on the TV. Then we can have the
sound off and still know what is going on.


Not too helpful if it's a musical performance you want to watch.


In the case of music, you don't have to watch so much. And for the
hearing impaired, it isn't as critical to understand what is going on
when it is music. If you miss a note or a phrase, you aren't saying
"What? What did he say?" You probably won't even notice that you are
missing all the top (higher) notes in the music unless you are really
profoundly deaf to where you can only feel the vibration of the bass
line in your feet.

I still hate earphones - if they are loud enough to hear, the sound
hurts my ears. (I'm deafer in one ear than the other.) And if the
sound hurts my ears, it is too loud.

With captions (since they usually lag), if I miss a word I can usually
look up and catch it. (Bob won't tell me because it annoys him that I
am using the computer or something while I 'watch' TV and he thinks
that if I paid attention, I'd know what was going on.)



Capt. Rob November 24th 06 02:44 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 

NE Sailboat wrote:
Since I don't have a "big screen" at home ....... a little screen on board
should be ok ... right?

I checked around and the dvd players are selling for $50 bucks ( that is the
price on the black Friday flyer ).

I clicked on a web site that said the battery should go 6 hours.




Most won't last even close to that. But the Sony does.

http://www.epinions.com/content_236299587204



Robert
35s5
NY


Jeff November 24th 06 03:03 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
KLC Lewis wrote:
There is at least one really good reason for having a TV aboard, at least
for coastal and/or Great Lakes sailing: Weather Reports. Here in Green Bay,
where storms can pop up with little or no notice and travel 30 miles per
hour, it's nice to be able to tune into the local news and see what's
developing on doppler radar. Our official NWS reports on VHF are usually
(or at least too often) so wrong as to be laughable, if not dangerous.


TV weather reports used to be my excuse for having a TV. And there's
nothing like a good in-depth report from a high quality weatherperson,
as we tend to have in New England. However, for fast moving
situations, I've come to rely on cell phone and now BlackBerry
browsers, which can display the up to date nexrad picture.

cfrantzol November 24th 06 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NE Sailboat
Funny, I was thinking about this tonight .. why? I have no idea.

Do those small black and white tv's work? How much power? How do you power
one? Battery?

While I have your attention :: how much power does a laptop take up?

Also, how long will a laptop run before it is out of juice?


The small b/w ones usually have no remote and really awful sound. Had two of them and had to convert some old computer speakers to understand what was going on. They have advantages too: relatively good reception in bad areas (= almost any decent anchorage) and not power hungry. Lately I bought an el cheapo 12' LCD with remote. Its a good choice since the size is good for comfortable viewing anywhere in a small to medium craft and when not in operation it takes very little space. It is not power hungry either but it is not as sensitive as the b/w's and when reception is not optimal it just rejects the channel instead of letting you view (even in low quality). Sometimes (for news and weather broadcast p.ex) reception quality isnt that important and in this case old b/w's are unbeatable.

Prices here (Athens, Greece) are around $130 for 7'b/w and $250 for 12' LCD. I think that b/w ones are gradually dissapearing from the market.

Concerning laptops etc your best choise is to have a small inverter on board (300W or so). They consume almost nothing when idle and have very good efficiency which mainly means you waste little power into heat. Then you use it for all sorts of things: Laptop, cellular, drills, you name it. My prefered use is to use it overnight to power a heated blanket (60W) which keeps the berth warm and (mainly) dry. I also have a 1500W inverter but this is a remnant from the days I had no generator. I almost use this no more since for such power it is better to use the gen set.

Hope this helps.

Christos.

KLC Lewis November 24th 06 05:40 PM

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:26:13 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
said:

There is at least one really good reason for having a TV aboard, at least
for coastal and/or Great Lakes sailing: Weather Reports.


Well, there is this technology called AM-FM radio.


I heard a rumor about that, but I haven't found one that has moving
pictures.



Rosalie B. November 24th 06 05:41 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
Gogarty wrote:

In article ,
says...


Gogarty wrote:

In article ,
says...

I hate earphones (also hearing impaired but not as much as my
husband). We just put the captions on the TV. Then we can have the
sound off and still know what is going on.

Not too helpful if it's a musical performance you want to watch.


In the case of music, you don't have to watch so much. And for the
hearing impaired, it isn't as critical to understand what is going on
when it is music. If you miss a note or a phrase, you aren't saying
"What? What did he say?" You probably won't even notice that you are
missing all the top (higher) notes in the music unless you are really
profoundly deaf to where you can only feel the vibration of the bass
line in your feet.

I still hate earphones - if they are loud enough to hear, the sound
hurts my ears. (I'm deafer in one ear than the other.) And if the
sound hurts my ears, it is too loud.

With captions (since they usually lag), if I miss a word I can usually
look up and catch it. (Bob won't tell me because it annoys him that I
am using the computer or something while I 'watch' TV and he thinks
that if I paid attention, I'd know what was going on.)

To each his own. I have no problem with earphones. Don't much like
captioned programs.


Most programs now are captioned and most newer TVs can get the
captions

I know there are people who don't like the captions. They do block
out a small portion of the screen. IMHO that is a small price to pay
and on my boat, you would have to put up with them.

My daughter and SIL don't like them. But loud noises really, really
bother me and my daughter and SIL are really noisy. I couldn't hear
the TV at all at their house over the normal conversation. Bob and I
have a tendency at their house to leave the room and go back to the
guest room and shut the door against the noise. This annoys Bob
because he likes to watch the TV and he doesn't like the noise. I
just get on the computer and do email.

And in a bar or restaurant where the ambient noise level is too high
(what with a lot of people talking loudly, several TVs on, plus Musiak
or some kind of music) that no one can hear anything, if I'm to know
what is going on on the TVs (especially the talking head type
programs), the captions have to be on or there's no point in having
the TV on adding to the noise..



Rosalie B. November 24th 06 05:50 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
Dave wrote:

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:26:13 -0600, "KLC Lewis" said:

There is at least one really good reason for having a TV aboard, at least
for coastal and/or Great Lakes sailing: Weather Reports.


Well, there is this technology called AM-FM radio.


Come to that there is the NOAA radio reports. But the radio mostly
just repeats someone else's written forecast, and the TV stations
sometimes have real meteorologists thinking about the weather.

I basically use 3 or 4 sources for weather before I decide if it is Go
or No-Go. I like to look at the weather channel on TV, local TV
stations, NOAA weather on the radio, and if we are going off shore I
will also use the SSB and talk to Herb.

Except for Herb, I always look at those forecasts with a little
skeptism - I think about why they are saying what they say, and I look
at the weather map and the radar images that they show and make up my
own mind.



Rosalie B. November 24th 06 05:53 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
Dave wrote:

On 23 Nov 2006 22:52:12 -0800, "Tim" said:

I don't have one on the boat. I probably won't. The closest thing I
have to a TV is a depthfinder. But I do have an AMFM CD player .

When we're out on the boat, That's it. ..just us and the boat.

If I wanted to watch TV, I'd stay home with the big screen,.


That wasn't the question. You are giving advice that you have not
been asked for. Worth about what we paid for it.

Pretty much what I was going to say. For entertainment when berthed, we
bring along a few good (or not so good) books.

As to the computer, I have an old Toshiba libretto on which the battery died
long ago hooked up to the GPS for navigation. It uses one of the "brick"
connections, run to a cigarette lighter connection, and runs all day without
running the battery down enough to notice. Normal engine usage getting in
and out of the harbor is enough recharge.



Rosalie B. November 24th 06 10:32 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
Dave wrote:

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:53:04 GMT, Rosalie B.
said:

That wasn't the question. You are giving advice that you have not
been asked for.


Ah, a practice unheard of in this group.

If you don't like the message, attack the messenger.


The question that was asked was - do you have a TV on your boat. You
could just say no, without moralizing about it. You could even say,
No we don't have a TV because we don't want one.

You aren't the messenger in this case. A messenger is just someone
that carries a message without having any input or responsibility for
the content. Attacking the message writer (you) for what he writes is
sometimes appropriate, where attacking a simple delivery person is
not.
..




Capt. Rob November 25th 06 03:46 AM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 

Yes. Or I could have said I think anybody who spends his time on a boat

watching a boob tube has to be a little nuts.



It really depends on how you feel about "the boob tube." For those who
appreciate fine cinema, watching a classic film on the hook is a great
combo. We have a few sailing classics on board as well....great for
falling asleep on some nights. Hey, but if you want to watch old
episodes of TJ Hooker, that's cool too!
We also like music aboard, but usually don't have it going while
sailing these days.
It's "your" boat. Use it in a way that makes you happy and don't worry
about anyone elses judgements on it.


Robert
Beneteau 35s5
NY


Rosalie B. November 25th 06 04:00 AM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
Dave wrote:

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:32:43 GMT, Rosalie B.
said:

The question that was asked was - do you have a TV on your boat. You
could just say no, without moralizing about it. You could even say,
No we don't have a TV because we don't want one.


Yes. Or I could have said I think anybody who spends his time on a boat
watching a boob tube has to be a little nuts.

But I didn't. I simply concurred in Tim's statement that

" When we're out on the boat, That's it. ..just us and the boat.

If I wanted to watch TV, I'd stay home with the big screen,."

A little sensitive on the point, are we?


Just tired of everyone who thinks their way is the best and only way
and has a superior attitude about it.

We have a slightly bigger boat than perhaps we need because Bob
realized that we would both need our own space. Knowing that is
probably why we are still married after 47 years.

So ... just us and the boat wouldn't work for us. Bob has to be doing
stuff all the time, and I like to be in contact with other people,
even if briefly or just virtually.

I'm OK with the boat, but it wasn't my idea or goal, so if Bob puts a
TV on for me, fine. If the fact that I want to watch TV isn't a
problem for him, then why should you or Tim have a problem with it?





Tim November 25th 06 06:21 AM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
I dont' have a problem with it. I'm saying that if I want to watch TV
I'll stay at home, I go boating to get away from stuff, not take it
with me.

Thsi reminds me of some neighbors of mine that bought a $160,000.00
motor home that had about everything I can think that you can put on
two wheels., Why did they buy it? Their answer is obvious. So they
could go ..."Camping" !

If you want a TV then get one. I'm not going to stop you. But there's
no need to expect me to have one.


Rosalie B. wrote:
If the fact that I want to watch TV isn't a
problem for him, then why should you or Tim have a problem with it?



Glenn Ashmore November 25th 06 02:19 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
The thing is there is a big difference between "going boating" and living on
a boat for 6 months or longer. A cruising boat is not a camper although a
lot of people use than as such. A cruising boat is a home and should have
what ever conveniences and amenities as the owner feels he needs.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
I dont' have a problem with it. I'm saying that if I want to watch TV
I'll stay at home, I go boating to get away from stuff, not take it
with me.

Thsi reminds me of some neighbors of mine that bought a $160,000.00
motor home that had about everything I can think that you can put on
two wheels., Why did they buy it? Their answer is obvious. So they
could go ..."Camping" !

If you want a TV then get one. I'm not going to stop you. But there's
no need to expect me to have one.


Rosalie B. wrote:
If the fact that I want to watch TV isn't a
problem for him, then why should you or Tim have a problem with it?





Rosalie B. November 25th 06 03:25 PM

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"Tim" wrote:

I dont' have a problem with it. I'm saying that if I want to watch TV
I'll stay at home, I go boating to get away from stuff, not take it
with me.

You can't get away from stuff. You exchange one set of chores (lawn
mowing), for a set of boat chores (dishes washed by hand, putting up
an anchor light).

Thsi reminds me of some neighbors of mine that bought a $160,000.00
motor home that had about everything I can think that you can put on
two wheels., Why did they buy it? Their answer is obvious. So they
could go ..."Camping" !

Friends of ours have one of those, but that is their home. They don't
have a house. They are full time RVers - they live in their RV - and
that's what those kinds of RVs are made for. Living in different
parts of the country without having to unpack.

We live on our boat full time for sometimes six months. We aren't
camping. We are living in various harbors and marinas without having
to fly there and pack and unpack. So we aren't 'getting away from
stuff'. And we like to watch TV.

If you want a TV then get one. I'm not going to stop you. But there's
no need to expect me to have one.

I don't have any expectations for you. You can obviously do what you
want. And in return, I expect you to allow us to use our boat in the
way that suits us without looking down your nose at us and implying
that your way is the only REAL way to enjoy a boat..

Rosalie B. wrote:
If the fact that I want to watch TV isn't a
problem for him, then why should you or Tim have a problem with it?



Tim November 25th 06 03:25 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 

Glenn Ashmore wrote:
The thing is there is a big difference between "going boating" and living on
a boat for 6 months or longer. A cruising boat is not a camper although a
lot of people use than as such. A cruising boat is a home and should have
what ever conveniences and amenities as the owner feels he needs.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
I dont' have a problem with it. I'm saying that if I want to watch TV
I'll stay at home, I go boating to get away from stuff, not take it
with me.

This reminds me of some neighbors of mine that bought a $160,000.00
motor home that had about everything I can think that you can put on
2 axles., Why did they buy it? Their answer is obvious. So they
could go ..."Camping" !

If you want a TV then get one. I'm not going to stop you. But there's
no need to expect me to have one.


Rosalie B. wrote:
If the fact that I want to watch TV isn't a
problem for him, then why should you or Tim have a problem with it?




Tim November 25th 06 03:30 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 

Rosalie B. wrote:
Friends of ours have one of those, but that is their home. They don't
have a house. They are full time RVers - they live in their RV - and
that's what those kinds of RVs are made for. Living in different
parts of the country without having to unpack.

By there own confession, the people that I'm talking about bought
theirs to "go camping"

We live on our boat full time for sometimes six months. We aren't
camping. We are living in various harbors and marinas without having
to fly there and pack and unpack. So we aren't 'getting away from
stuff'. And we like to watch TV.


Fine! God bless you for it.

I don't have any expectations for you.


Thank you, and neither do I for you.

You can obviously do what you
want. And in return, I expect you to allow us to use our boat in the
way that suits us without looking down your nose at us and implying
that your way is the only REAL way to enjoy a boat..


Did i say i was going to stop you?

Rosalie B. wrote:
If the fact that I want to watch TV isn't a
problem for him, then why should you or Tim have a problem with it?



Capt. Rob November 25th 06 04:03 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
By there own confession, the people that I'm talking about bought
theirs to "go camping"




Sooooo? I guess they like TV.




Robert
35s5
NY


Glenn Ashmore November 25th 06 04:50 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
Forget the TV. I just got back from Wallyworld. There is something really
illogical about seeing THREE million dollar plus Wonderlodges "camping" in
the parking lot! I think I would rather anchor off the commercial dock at
Ponce than a Wal-Mart parking lot. :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
By there own confession, the people that I'm talking about bought
theirs to "go camping"




Sooooo? I guess they like TV.




Robert
35s5
NY




Don White November 25th 06 06:25 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:00:13 GMT, Rosalie B. wrote:


Dave wrote:


On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:32:43 GMT, Rosalie B.
said:


The question that was asked was - do you have a TV on your boat. You
could just say no, without moralizing about it. You could even say,
No we don't have a TV because we don't want one.

Yes. Or I could have said I think anybody who spends his time on a boat
watching a boob tube has to be a little nuts.

But I didn't. I simply concurred in Tim's statement that

" When we're out on the boat, That's it. ..just us and the boat.

If I wanted to watch TV, I'd stay home with the big screen,."

A little sensitive on the point, are we?



Just tired of everyone who thinks their way is the best and only way
and has a superior attitude about it.



Then you may as well stop reading Dave's posts. That's pretty much his whole
shtick.

CWM


Those lawyers always think they know what's best for everyone else. I
think they're a big reason why our countries are in a downward spin.
Here's what an idiot lawyer fron this area said after his drunk client
crossed the center line and killed a mom & dad plus injuring the two kids...
quote..
"Oh good God, there’s been people killed in Canada," Mr. Maxwell said.
"People talk on cellphones and kill people. People watch a deer in the
field and kill people. And people drink and drive and kill people," he said.

"It’s not going to stop today and it’s not going to stop tomorrow. So I
don’t see what the big public outcry is."

http://tinyurl.com/ye2uk5
http://www.herald.ns.ca/NovaScotia/541433.html

Bill Kearney November 25th 06 09:17 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 

Thsi reminds me of some neighbors of mine that bought a $160,000.00
motor home that had about everything I can think that you can put on
two wheels., Why did they buy it? Their answer is obvious. So they
could go ..."Camping" !


With that attitude I suspect it if gets them away from YOU they'd certainly
be happy, camping or not.


Rosalie B. November 25th 06 09:43 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
"Tim" wrote:


Rosalie B. wrote:
Friends of ours have one of those, but that is their home. They don't
have a house. They are full time RVers - they live in their RV - and
that's what those kinds of RVs are made for. Living in different
parts of the country without having to unpack.

By there own confession, the people that I'm talking about bought
theirs to "go camping"

Yes, some people get them under the impression that they are
'camping'. That doesn't mean that you need to condemn all of RVing
because the people across the street from you have more money than
sense.

Bob would not want to do that, and I wouldn't either, but some of the
stuff that RVers have is quite useful for boaters and cheaper too
because it doesn't have a marine label on it. One of the ways that a
boat is better than an RV is that when you are anchored temporarily
somewhere, the scenery is usually better (and it is more peaceful)
than the WallyWorld parking lot. And we are usually farther apart too
- I couldn't stand to live less than 5 feet from my neighbors like in
some of those parks.


We live on our boat full time for sometimes six months. We aren't
camping. We are living in various harbors and marinas without having
to fly there and pack and unpack. So we aren't 'getting away from
stuff'. And we like to watch TV.


Fine! God bless you for it.

I don't have any expectations for you.


Thank you, and neither do I for you.

You can obviously do what you
want. And in return, I expect you to allow us to use our boat in the
way that suits us without looking down your nose at us and implying
that your way is the only REAL way to enjoy a boat..


Did i say i was going to stop you?


No, and you couldn't if you wanted to. You just implied that having a
TV on the boat was the same as your neighbors with the big RV. They
are not *really* camping because they have a big RV and obviously
camping has to be done with a tent and sleeping bags. And real
boaters don't need TVs because the boat by itself is enough.


Rosalie B. wrote:
If the fact that I want to watch TV isn't a
problem for him, then why should you or Tim have a problem with it?



Tim November 25th 06 11:18 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 

Bill Kearney wrote:
This reminds me of some neighbors of mine that bought a $160,000.00
motor home that had about everything I can think that you can put on
two wheels., Why did they buy it? Their answer is obvious. So they
could go ..."Camping" !


With that attitude I suspect it if gets them away from YOU they'd certainly
be happy, camping or not.


what on earth are you talking about, Bill?


Tim November 25th 06 11:21 PM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
I'm not condemning anyone Rosie. Quit reading more than what is there.



Rosalie B. wrote:
"Tim" wrote:


Rosalie B. wrote:
Friends of ours have one of those, but that is their home. They don't
have a house. They are full time RVers - they live in their RV - and
that's what those kinds of RVs are made for. Living in different
parts of the country without having to unpack.

By there own confession, the people that I'm talking about bought
theirs to "go camping"

Yes, some people get them under the impression that they are
'camping'. That doesn't mean that you need to condemn all of RVing
because the people across the street from you have more money than
sense.

Bob would not want to do that, and I wouldn't either, but some of the
stuff that RVers have is quite useful for boaters and cheaper too
because it doesn't have a marine label on it. One of the ways that a
boat is better than an RV is that when you are anchored temporarily
somewhere, the scenery is usually better (and it is more peaceful)
than the WallyWorld parking lot. And we are usually farther apart too
- I couldn't stand to live less than 5 feet from my neighbors like in
some of those parks.


We live on our boat full time for sometimes six months. We aren't
camping. We are living in various harbors and marinas without having
to fly there and pack and unpack. So we aren't 'getting away from
stuff'. And we like to watch TV.


Fine! God bless you for it.

I don't have any expectations for you.


Thank you, and neither do I for you.

You can obviously do what you
want. And in return, I expect you to allow us to use our boat in the
way that suits us without looking down your nose at us and implying
that your way is the only REAL way to enjoy a boat..


Did i say i was going to stop you?


No, and you couldn't if you wanted to. You just implied that having a
TV on the boat was the same as your neighbors with the big RV. They
are not *really* camping because they have a big RV and obviously
camping has to be done with a tent and sleeping bags. And real
boaters don't need TVs because the boat by itself is enough.


No I didn't. Your readimg more inti the post than what is there.


Rosalie B. wrote:
If the fact that I want to watch TV isn't a
problem for him, then why should you or Tim have a problem with it?



NE Sailboat November 26th 06 01:54 AM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
TV Onboard Report ::; from the sailor who started this madness.

I was over at the boat today, then took a ride to Best Buy.

I looked at DVD Players ( portable ). Very sweet item for my little
sailboat. They will play a DVD movie, or other DVD show such as old tv
shows which I can take out at my local libray. Of course, also any other
show such as How To's.. like how to anchor, dock, etc.

They play DVD's and CD's. So, you get music and movie. The battery which
comes in the portable DVD is the weak point. It will only hold a charge for
3 hours. Since the movie will probably run 2 hours ?? You see the
problem... But, next to the DVD shelf was an accessory. It is a battery
which will power up the DVD for 8 hours. That would give you 11 hours of
movies between power ups.

The portable DVD can be used for music also. The speakers are bad though.
The kid at Best Buy asked me if I had any old computer speakers at home.
Why of course, the computer is gone but the speakers are .............. ???
bingo. Now your DVD has good sound.

The price for a good DVD was around $200 and the extra battery was something
like $80. When I got home I looked and there are a ton of DVD's, extra
batterys , et all on Ebay.

If I can decide ??? Always a hard thing ... and I can buy two or three extra
battery packs on Ebay cheap ... why not.

As one sailor said, it is nice to lie around and watch an old movie. I live
on my sailboat for weeks in the summer.

The thought of watching "Casablanca" on my super cool DVD player with the
computer speakers ..........


"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 18:25:41 GMT, Don White said:

Those lawyers always think they know what's best for everyone else.


Too often true. Though put a lawyer alongside a doctor and you've got a
pretty good horse race.




KLC Lewis November 26th 06 02:01 AM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 

"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:gt6ah.4419$Kw2.3963@trndny05...
TV Onboard Report ::; from the sailor who started this madness.

I was over at the boat today, then took a ride to Best Buy.

I looked at DVD Players ( portable ). Very sweet item for my little
sailboat. They will play a DVD movie, or other DVD show such as old tv
shows which I can take out at my local libray. Of course, also any other
show such as How To's.. like how to anchor, dock, etc.

They play DVD's and CD's. So, you get music and movie. The battery which
comes in the portable DVD is the weak point. It will only hold a charge
for 3 hours. Since the movie will probably run 2 hours ?? You see the
problem... But, next to the DVD shelf was an accessory. It is a battery
which will power up the DVD for 8 hours. That would give you 11 hours of
movies between power ups.

The portable DVD can be used for music also. The speakers are bad though.
The kid at Best Buy asked me if I had any old computer speakers at home.
Why of course, the computer is gone but the speakers are ..............
??? bingo. Now your DVD has good sound.

The price for a good DVD was around $200 and the extra battery was
something like $80. When I got home I looked and there are a ton of
DVD's, extra batterys , et all on Ebay.

If I can decide ??? Always a hard thing ... and I can buy two or three
extra battery packs on Ebay cheap ... why not.

As one sailor said, it is nice to lie around and watch an old movie. I
live on my sailboat for weeks in the summer.

The thought of watching "Casablanca" on my super cool DVD player with the
computer speakers ..........


Remember that those speakers will also need power, so you'll need to make
arrangements for that.



NE Sailboat November 26th 06 02:17 AM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
What about those speakers that are for Walkmans? I've seen them and they
have speakers that take a D,C or so battery.

I wonder what the speakers sound like?


"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
...

"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:gt6ah.4419$Kw2.3963@trndny05...
TV Onboard Report ::; from the sailor who started this madness.

I was over at the boat today, then took a ride to Best Buy.

I looked at DVD Players ( portable ). Very sweet item for my little
sailboat. They will play a DVD movie, or other DVD show such as old tv
shows which I can take out at my local libray. Of course, also any other
show such as How To's.. like how to anchor, dock, etc.

They play DVD's and CD's. So, you get music and movie. The battery
which comes in the portable DVD is the weak point. It will only hold a
charge for 3 hours. Since the movie will probably run 2 hours ?? You
see the problem... But, next to the DVD shelf was an accessory. It is a
battery which will power up the DVD for 8 hours. That would give you 11
hours of movies between power ups.

The portable DVD can be used for music also. The speakers are bad
though. The kid at Best Buy asked me if I had any old computer speakers
at home. Why of course, the computer is gone but the speakers are
.............. ??? bingo. Now your DVD has good sound.

The price for a good DVD was around $200 and the extra battery was
something like $80. When I got home I looked and there are a ton of
DVD's, extra batterys , et all on Ebay.

If I can decide ??? Always a hard thing ... and I can buy two or three
extra battery packs on Ebay cheap ... why not.

As one sailor said, it is nice to lie around and watch an old movie. I
live on my sailboat for weeks in the summer.

The thought of watching "Casablanca" on my super cool DVD player with the
computer speakers ..........


Remember that those speakers will also need power, so you'll need to make
arrangements for that.




Larry November 26th 06 04:16 AM

wondering .. do you have a TV on board? How ....
 
"NE Sailboat" wrote in news:gt6ah.4419$Kw2.3963
@trndny05:

TV Onboard Report ::; from the sailor who started this madness.


Got a laptop computer? My music/movie/TV machine is a Gateway 15.4"
laptop, MX6438, CC has them on sale at times in the $750 range. You can
run nav software on it, tons of movies downloaded for free from Usenet's
alt.binaries.movies.divx newsgroup, MP3 files, etc....

Then, there's this:
http://hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_hvr950.html
Digital and Analog TV for your FAST laptop computer for $99. The little
whip antenna isn't much but this little Philips antenna turns it into a
powerhouse:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...e/103-1042369-
4062224
(This says Zenith, same as Philips at Circuit City's TV department)
The USB stick completely EATS all computer time processing high definition
video, so you can't do anything else while its running, but the picture is
perfect! You'll need a little 100 watt 12VDC to 115VAC inverter to plug
the laptop into. The little inverters are MUCH cheaper than a 12V power
supply from the computer companies. Mine was $20 at Radio Shack...175W.

A laptop with LOTS of uses is far better than a little DVD player that will
only play STORE BOUGHT DVDs and CDs... With the laptop, you can even use
it for a boat phone on Skype if your marina has wifi...(c;



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