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Most People Will Never Know About Biodiesel
What kind of difference can the use biodiesel make when it comes to
changing the world for the better? Perhaps the biggest impact of the use of biodiesel fuel instead of just plain diesel is on the human health and the environment. One of the biggest differences that biodiesel make is with regards to smog. Using biodiesel actually reduces smog. Both unburned hydrocarbons and nitrogen oxides in diesel fuel account for most of the particulates in air pollution. When you use biodiesel product or homemade biodiesel there is a substantial reduction of unburned hydrocarbons and if you are using a blend that is right for your machine. Tests that have been conducted according to EPA regulations have shown that the hydrocarbon exhaust emissions that biodiesel are half that of that measured for diesel fuel. Can biodiesel make more energy? Unlike the burning of fossil fuels, the burning biodiesel fuels actually gives back more energy to the environment that it takes. Lifecycle studies of biodiesel production show that for every unit of fossil energy it takes to manufacture ... http://biodieselaa.blogspot.com/# |
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wrote in news:1164019084.574093.21320
@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com: Can biodiesel make more energy? Unlike the burning of fossil fuels, the burning biodiesel fuels actually gives back more energy to the environment that it takes. Lifecycle studies of biodiesel production show that for every unit of fossil energy it takes to manufacture ... http://biodieselaa.blogspot.com/# Biodiesel is expensive and unnecessary. I have one Frybrid-powered V-8 diesel in a 1989 Chevy-powered Union City Body stepvan, already. Check out: http://www.frybrid.com/ We have more FREE fuel within 10 miles of my house than three of us pooling our resources can burn. You don't have to burn biodiesel at twice the price of #2. Fuel is free if you're willing to go get it and do a little filtering out the french fries from it. I RECYCLE my fuel....(c; PS - Living in the South USA, my two Mercedes diesel cars are running on 20% gasoline and 80% vegetable oil, at the moment. The gas lowers its viscosity, even without the Frybrid heating it to 160F. It starts fine down into the 40F range, so far. At some point, if my sample on the porch shows its cloudy from being too cold, I'll simply drive one of the other cars until the temperature rises. So much for the biodiesel spam.....Fuel is FREE! Larry -- Halloween candy sure has dropped in price, lately! |
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wrote in message ps.com... What kind of difference can the use biodiesel make when it comes to changing the world for the better? Perhaps the biggest impact of the use of biodiesel fuel instead of just plain diesel is on the human health and the environment. One of the biggest differences that biodiesel make is with regards to smog. Using biodiesel actually reduces smog. Both unburned hydrocarbons and nitrogen oxides in diesel fuel account for most of the particulates in air pollution. When you use biodiesel product or homemade biodiesel there is a substantial reduction of unburned hydrocarbons and if you are using a blend that is right for your machine. Tests that have been conducted according to EPA regulations have shown that the hydrocarbon exhaust emissions that biodiesel are half that of that measured for diesel fuel. Can biodiesel make more energy? Unlike the burning of fossil fuels, the burning biodiesel fuels actually gives back more energy to the environment that it takes. Lifecycle studies of biodiesel production show that for every unit of fossil energy it takes to manufacture ... http://biodieselaa.blogspot.com/# With all the human misery and starvation on this planet, it seriously bothers me that we are taking food and turning it into fuel, with the intention of ramping-up the project exponentially. But then, that's just my take on it. |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message et... Snip...Snip.. With all the human misery and starvation on this planet, it seriously bothers me that we are taking food and turning it into fuel, with the intention of ramping-up the project exponentially. But then, that's just my take on it. I agree, but I do support biodiesel, if it is made from algae. Being a closed cycle carbon system would be helpful until we can perfect other clean systems. Widescale Biodiesel Production from Algae: http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html -- SeeYaa Harbin Osteen KG6URO When American Citizens with dual citizenship pledges allegiance to the flag, to which flag do they pledge allegiance too? - |
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"Harbin Osteen" wrote in message ... "KLC Lewis" wrote in message et... Snip...Snip.. With all the human misery and starvation on this planet, it seriously bothers me that we are taking food and turning it into fuel, with the intention of ramping-up the project exponentially. But then, that's just my take on it. I agree, but I do support biodiesel, if it is made from algae. Being a closed cycle carbon system would be helpful until we can perfect other clean systems. Widescale Biodiesel Production from Algae: http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html -- SeeYaa Harbin Osteen KG6URO When American Citizens with dual citizenship pledges allegiance to the flag, to which flag do they pledge allegiance too? Wow! Great link, thanks for that :-) |
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What kind of difference can the use biodiesel make when it comes to
changing the world for the better? Perhaps the biggest impact of the use of biodiesel fuel instead of just plain diesel is on the human health and the environment. One of the biggest differences that biodiesel make is with regards to smog. Using biodiesel actually reduces smog. Both unburned hydrocarbons and nitrogen oxides in diesel fuel account for most of the particulates in air pollution. When you use biodiesel product or homemade biodiesel there is a substantial reduction of unburned hydrocarbons and if you are using a blend that is right for your machine. Tests that have been conducted according to EPA regulations have shown that the hydrocarbon exhaust emissions that biodiesel are half that of that measured for diesel fuel. Can biodiesel make more energy? Unlike the burning of fossil fuels, the burning biodiesel fuels actually gives back more energy to the environment that it takes. Lifecycle studies of biodiesel production show that for every unit of fossil energy it takes to manufacture ... http://biodieselaa.blogspot.com/# You don't need to buy biodiesel. You can make your own from used french fry grease. It works in your engine after a little filtering and costs nothing but the stuff to make it. It doesnt hurt the world food supply either even if you buy biodiesel. More than enough farmers are being paid NOT to grow food. If an energy company wants to buy vegetables from them to make the stuff and the Gov't doesn't have to foot the bill for the sake of the economy, then I say go for it. There is more than enough food and way more than enough food potential. people that are starving in other countries just aren't getting the food. There is no food shortage in this world there is a food distribution problem. Making your own Biodiesel is a little tricky but anybody that is smart enough to care for a boat properly can definately learn. Most fast food joints will give you the stuff for free and I have even heard of some offering to pay a little for the "disposal" fee. Getting paid to take a fuel source doesn't sound so bad to me. Being as we are talking about boats there may need to be a few modifications if you want to go without any mixing with regular diesel. Mostly that you will have to heat it a little to increase viscosity in cold weather. This can be done in many ways but once it has run for a while the engine itself heats the fuel. A battery operated heater around the tank can do the trick. If this isn't an option then mix 50/50 with regular diesel to thin it out and you should be fine. There are no harmful effects to your engine as diesel was originally designed to run this way. The biggest drawback is that it smells a little like French Frys and may make you hungry for burgers while sailing. -- Message posted via BoatKB.com http://www.boatkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/cruising/200611/1 |
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"scbafreak via BoatKB.com" u25927@uwe wrote in message news:6997b20ed80a9@uwe... You don't need to buy biodiesel. You can make your own from used french fry grease. It works in your engine after a little filtering and costs nothing but the stuff to make it. It doesnt hurt the world food supply either even if you buy biodiesel. More than enough farmers are being paid NOT to grow food. If an energy company wants to buy vegetables from them to make the stuff and the Gov't doesn't have to foot the bill for the sake of the economy, then I say go for it. There is more than enough food and way more than enough food potential. people that are starving in other countries just aren't getting the food. There is no food shortage in this world there is a food distribution problem. Making your own Biodiesel is a little tricky but anybody that is smart enough to care for a boat properly can definately learn. Most fast food joints will give you the stuff for free and I have even heard of some offering to pay a little for the "disposal" fee. Getting paid to take a fuel source doesn't sound so bad to me. Being as we are talking about boats there may need to be a few modifications if you want to go without any mixing with regular diesel. Mostly that you will have to heat it a little to increase viscosity in cold weather. This can be done in many ways but once it has run for a while the engine itself heats the fuel. A battery operated heater around the tank can do the trick. If this isn't an option then mix 50/50 with regular diesel to thin it out and you should be fine. There are no harmful effects to your engine as diesel was originally designed to run this way. The biggest drawback is that it smells a little like French Frys and may make you hungry for burgers while sailing. -- Message posted via BoatKB.com http://www.boatkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/cruising/200611/1 Sure, that works fine for about 5 people. What about the rest? |
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"scbafreak via BoatKB.com" u25927@uwe wrote in news:6997b20ed80a9@uwe:
Most fast food joints will give you the stuff for free There's around 230 gallons waiting for me to pick up for our little Frybrid Oil Company in my Frybrid stepvan in the morning...(c; The oil recycling company is really upset with us, now only doing one pickup per month, instead of every 5 days. We ask the restaurants, mostly Chinese food places, to pour it back into the 6 gallon plastic jugs, in their protective boxes, it came in through a filter funnel we provide. We pick up the jugs and store them in a warehouse one of the guys owns who has a Mercedes 300SD for about a month to let the particulates that made it through the filter funnel settle out into the bottom. Then, we pump the oil off from 3" off the bottom of the jugs without moving them from their spot, slowly through our home made filtration system (2 diesel fuel filters and a gear pump). The outlet oil is as clear as a bell and is pumped into the Main Drain, a couple of 55 gallon oil drums we store it in until one of us needs to fill up. Our only cost will be filter cartridges. The more settling we do, the less filter changing we'll do. I only have the computerized unit on the stepvan. I also have two diesel Mercedes cars, a '73 220D, naturally aspirated 4-cylinder and an '83 300TD turbocharged station wagon 5-cylinder...all are 4-strokers, of course. The van is a 6.2L diesel V-8 from GM. Currently, here in the WARMER South, I'm experimenting with something I got from another veggie oil user on the net....simply mixing some regular gas with the oil to thin it down and running it at normal temperature. 70 oil and 30 gas worked great in the 220D. The 300TD wagon is running this week on 20 gas and 80 oil just fine. It starts right up at 45-50F in the morning. I have a glass jar of each mix sitting on the steps for a test reference to watch for clouding as temperatures drop. If it gets cloudy, I simply won't try to start that mixture until the outside temperature increases. Once the engines are warmed up, the oil-gas is heated in the block- mounted primary and injection pump. So far, I see no problems and no coking on the injectors or glow plugs when I pull them....(c; The Frybrid comes from www.frybrid.com for around 1600 dollars. Larry -- Halloween candy sure has dropped in price, lately! |
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In article 6997b20ed80a9@uwe, "scbafreak via BoatKB.com" u25927@uwe
wrote: You don't need to buy biodiesel. You can make your own from used french fry grease. Only if you're one of very few in your particular area. Half of the fuel Xan used last year was based on soy, not petro. The only reason it wasn't 100% is because bio doesn't like cold temps much and we only use a dozen gallons a year. We can grow soybeans. Crude is a limited resource, though more plentiful than the "chicken little"s would have us believe. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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