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![]() Quite correct. There are serious sailors here - let them give opinions on what makes an offshore boat. Jeff, you're little more than an ASA troll here. I'm certain that Shaun was capable of understanding my comment about the H34. I seriously doubt he thought I was suggesting the H34 was a top bluewater choice. I've also brokered the boat and the one I sold is now sailing offshore on occasion and the owners are happy. I only sailed the boat locally...nice boat for under 30K. As usual I hope everyone who reads your posts become suitably impressed with your Catamaran. Since I I had my C&C in 6-8 foot seas in a 40 knot blow, I guess I shouldn't have been having fun at the time. Come to think of it we saw 8 foot seas and 50 knots in the little Catalina 27. So? The H34 is capable of going offshore, Jeff. And that's a fact. The rest of your post is all troll, so I'm taking the tips from others here and not responding. Did you see the shots of my boat sailing Monday....perfect weather lately! http://youtube.com/watch?v=S8CqSXMnFaA Enjoy, Robert 35s5 NY |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
Quite correct. There are serious sailors here - let them give opinions on what makes an offshore boat. Jeff, you're little more than an ASA troll here. I'm certain that Shaun was capable of understanding my comment about the H34. I seriously doubt he thought I was suggesting the H34 was a top bluewater choice. I've also brokered the boat and the one I sold is now sailing offshore on occasion and the owners are happy. I only sailed the boat locally...nice boat for under 30K. And your opinion of offshore capability is based on ...? As usual I hope everyone who reads your posts become suitably impressed with your Catamaran. You asked about it, I said specifically that I didn't think even that was sufficient to pass judgment on other boats. Since I I had my C&C in 6-8 foot seas in a 40 knot blow, I guess I shouldn't have been having fun at the time. Come to think of it we saw 8 foot seas and 50 knots in the little Catalina 27. So? What a crock of ****! You have no idea what a 6 foot sea is! And while you might have briefly seen a strong wind in a passing squall, handling 50 knots for a full day or more when you're offshore is just a little different from 10 minutes when you're a mile from your slip. The H34 is capable of going offshore, Jeff. And that's a fact. The rest of your post is all troll, so I'm taking the tips from others here and not responding. Not a troll, Bob. Anyone getting advice deserves to what your qualifications are. Why don't you tell us how you bragged all summer 3 years ago that you were planning a trip "out of sight of land" but then never quite got around to it! How many times have you been 50 miles from your slip? Once, twice? How many times have you been out longer than two nights? Once? Did you see the shots of my boat sailing Monday....perfect weather lately! http://youtube.com/... And again you spam us with your commercial posts. |
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![]() on occasion and the owners are happy. I only sailed the boat locally...nice boat for under 30K. And your opinion of offshore capability is based on ...? I just gave it to you. The new owners of the 34 sail it offshore. They've had no problems. You can also search the Hunter forums and see others who've taken the 34 offshore. Do some research. We sold and serviced the boat and it was not poorly built like later Hunters. I sailed a Hunter 34, both with the original owner and the person who bought it. True, it wasn't in 10 foot seas, but we had her out in a variety of conditions. So I had first hand experience and contact with her current owners. That's more than anyone else (thus far) had. The rest of your post is simply a troll so I won't respond to it. You can't turn this into ASA, Jeff....and I've promised several people here that I won't let that happen. Go boat-bashing elsewhere. Robert 35s5 NY |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
on occasion and the owners are happy. I only sailed the boat locally...nice boat for under 30K. And your opinion of offshore capability is based on ...? I just gave it to you. The new owners of the 34 sail it offshore. They've had no problems. You can also search the Hunter forums and see others who've taken the 34 offshore. Do some research. We sold and serviced the boat and it was not poorly built like later Hunters. I sailed a Hunter 34, both with the original owner and the person who bought it. True, it wasn't in 10 foot seas, but we had her out in a variety of conditions. So I had first hand experience and contact with her current owners. That's more than anyone else (thus far) had. The rest of your post is simply a troll so I won't respond to it. You can't turn this into ASA, Jeff....and I've promised several people here that I won't let that happen. Go boat-bashing elsewhere. I haven't boat-bashed at all. In fact, I said nothing about Hunters until you pressed for my opinion. While I'm sure you can find examples of H34's that have gone outside of completely protected waters (certainly not with you aboard, however), you can also find a number of owners who talk about being overpowered in moderate wind, etc. One owner's comment: "Don't turn yore eyes for a second or you'll be 40 deg. off course. Then again, turns on a dime and makes change. Not an ocean cruiser. Structure probably OK, but just too light to fight heavy seas for more than a few hours." But I'm not here to boat-bash, anyone can read the boards to get opinions. I've bob-bashed. |
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![]() Why don't you tell us how you bragged all summer 3 years ago that you were planning a trip "out of sight of land" but then never quite got around to it! How many times have you been 50 miles from your slip? Once, twice? How many times have you been out longer than two nights? Once? So everyone knows you're not lying, please post where I "bragged" about a trip out of sight of land. I actually only asked about it. 50 miles from our slip? Plenty of times, but not this summer. Longer than two nights? Too many times to remember. Like I said, Jeff. You're a troll. My statement that the H34 can go offshore stands and no one is going to dispute it beyond saying there are better choices that MIGHT fit a sailor's budget and requirements. Going out for a sail now, Jeff. As usual you'll sit home. Next week I'll be delivering a Catalina 36 from Port Jeff to Sandy Hook. That'll be a nice sail, no? Bye! Robert 35s5 NY |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
Why don't you tell us how you bragged all summer 3 years ago that you were planning a trip "out of sight of land" but then never quite got around to it! How many times have you been 50 miles from your slip? Once, twice? How many times have you been out longer than two nights? Once? So everyone knows you're not lying, please post where I "bragged" about a trip out of sight of land. Bob claims he never brags about trips he plans to take. All of these are from different posts: "One of the trips we're thinking of doing is a Nowhere-Trip" "That's pretty much what we were told....We talked about it last night. Suzanne is excited by the idea. Spindrift has radar, epirb, 3 vhf radios, radar reflector and so on....we'd use it. That what it's there for. We'd try to pick a safe weather window. " "Someday? This summer we will take Alien out of sight of land. " And here we get 2 for the price of 1: "We are also planning our cruise to nowhere straight offshore in about 4 weeks. I'm really looking forward to that. We'll head out and away until we lose sight of NY/NJ and sail back. We're also looking into the Around LI Race, but we have yet to secure a proper liferaft as required. I suppose we could just "race" without entering officially, which we may do." "This summer we plan to do the around LI race, block island and our cruise to nowhere. " BTW, while looking I found what Bob really thinks of Hunters. And he calls me a "boat-basher"? "Just so lurkers are not misled, Hunter is much like Bayliner. They build very cheap boats for people who won't or can't spend on the quality stuff." "Hunter and Beneteau have built some of the cheapest and ugly boats. Hunter continues with ugly designs while Beneteau builds a fast, but way-cheap product. There are far better boats out there so keep looking. " "Up to a point. While they rival Beneteau is cheapness, at least the Beneteau boats sail well. Even Mac26x owners seem to live in a world of pain, knowing they bought at the bottom, but Beneteau and Hunter owners are dilusional, thinking they own good boats. " "At one point I was interested in the Hunter line. I read up on the history of the boats, spoke to people on the web and at clubs about new models and old. I have friends that work in yards as well as doing special surveys. It didn;t take long to learn that the Hunter is terribly built. Beyond that it's one of the ugliest things on the water." "Don't choose a passionless design from Hunter as they are mere marketing objects. Beyond very light cruising it will dissapoint you in many respects. " "Like the Coronado's and Bucaneer's, people will look back on thier Hunter's and Mac26x's and say, 'It seemed a good idea at the time.'" I actually only asked about it. 50 miles from our slip? Plenty of times, but not this summer. Plenty of times? Even your trip to The Thimbles was under 50 miles. Your trip to NJ probably wasn't that far, as the sea gull flies. So what are we left with? One trip to Gull Island. I guess in your mind that's "plenty of times." And as everyone knows by now, if you left the dock at all, everyone has to hear about it! Longer than two nights? Too many times to remember. sure thing, Bob. Sleeping at the slip doesn't count. Like I said, Jeff. I'm a troll. Bob was proud of his record of trolling on ASA. While most of us tried to be at least somewhat civil, Bob was proud of his pathological lying. He bashed everyone's boat, while he bragged incessantly about his possessions. Now he's trying to say none of that really happened. |
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On 9 Nov 2006 08:03:52 -0800, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
The H34 is capable of going offshore No doubt. Is it capable of coming back? That's the real issue. They are designed for light weight coastal cruising and do a pretty good job of that, nothing more. With any boat it is important to get the best surveyor you can find and tell him exactly how you expect to use the boat. He can tell you whether it is suitable or not, and what upgrades it might need. Best money you'll ever spend. By all means do *not* get a surveyor recommended by the broker. It's better to go to a broker in a nearby area and ask them what surveyor they would use if *they* were buying a boat. I prefer using surveyors from out of town since there is a lot of incest in the business. |
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