The Hunter 34 can certainly go offshore safely.

I think Shaun might appreciate the opinion of someone who had actually
sailed outside of Long Island Sound.



So then you don't agree with my statement? BTW, does the Jersey coast
count as outside of the LIS? Do you have any experienced comments to
make for Shaun or are you just trolling?

Robert
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
The Hunter 34 can certainly go offshore safely.

I think Shaun might appreciate the opinion of someone who had actually
sailed outside of Long Island Sound.


So then you don't agree with my statement?

As has often been claimed, almost any vessel can survive an ocean
voyage. However, experienced sailers have for thousands of years have
deemed some vessels safer than others. From what I know of the 34, it
falls below the line. Just my opinion, and I'll concede that my
offshore experience is somewhat limited.


BTW, does the Jersey coast
count as outside of the LIS?

I allowed you several hours of "outside" time just to include that one
particular trip. But this just proves my point: you went on one short
delivery a few miles down the NJ coast 6 years ago, and you've used
that over and over again to "prove" you have "offshore" experience.


Do you have any experienced comments to
make for Shaun or are you just trolling?

Not really. Even though I've been on dozens of trips 10 times longer
than your little hop, including being 50 miles offshore a number of
times, I wouldn't presume to advise on the offshore capability of a
vessel other than one I've actually sailed in heavy weather, on a real
ocean.

But I will offer this: a few years ago I was attending a class where
most of the other students were delivery captains, several had done
South Africa to the Caribbean a number of times. Three of them were
chatting one morning (I was really eaves dropping) when the topic came
up of a sailboat that had requested rescue about 100 miles off
Nantucket, in conditions that weren't that bad. One of them said "I
don't suppose the boat type began with 'H'?" and the three of them
started laughing so hard I thought they'd split a gut!

So in your opinion boats who's maker start with "H" are not offshore capable
or reliable? and You form Your opinion from one conversation you were
eavesdropping on? Hrmm i guess all those hatterras owners might want to keep
their boats in their slips then.
"Jeff" wrote in message
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But I will offer this: a few years ago I was attending a class where most
of the other students were delivery captains, several had done South
Africa to the Caribbean a number of times. Three of them were chatting
one morning (I was really eaves dropping) when the topic came up of a
sailboat that had requested rescue about 100 miles off Nantucket, in
conditions that weren't that bad. One of them said "I don't suppose the
boat type began with 'H'?" and the three of them started laughing so hard
I thought they'd split a gut!

Jeff wrote:
snip


Not really. Even though I've been on dozens of trips 10 times longer
than your little hop, including being 50 miles offshore a number of
times, I wouldn't presume to advise on the offshore capability of a
vessel other than one I've actually sailed in heavy weather, on a real
ocean.
snip
50 miles offshore.....wow....was it bad.....did the boat tip.....


http://www.rlyachts.net/index24.asp
in that case this little boat is a world cruiser too.
i have had this out in one of our (storms) fresh breeze to us
broached surfing down a wave ...yes i was being and idiot but i was
having a ball at the time from memory the forecast at the time 40 to 45
knot winds 3 meter swell with 2 to 3 meter waves.yes i was knackerd
after wards sore bruised ribs ect does it stop me NO.
when i had the cat's i was heading out when every one else was running
for shelter. In my young years i used to help man the local rescue boat
in winter (summer was easy) now that was a boat to puke your guts up in.
Taught me the real pleasure of sailing
the reason i have chosen the hunter tall rig is for its light breeze
reputation in summer along the coast we have easterly in the morning
swopping to a sea breeze (southwest by west southwest) in the afternoon
this ranges from 2 to 5 knot through to 10 to 15k if it blows.
Wind and waves do not bother me....reefs fog big tides yes that makes me
very nervous and those great big slab sided things called container
ships scare the **** outa me.
P.S does the Indian ocean qualify as a REAL ocean

shaun wrote:
Jeff wrote:
snip


Not really. Even though I've been on dozens of trips 10 times longer
than your little hop, including being 50 miles offshore a number of
times, I wouldn't presume to advise on the offshore capability of a
vessel other than one I've actually sailed in heavy weather, on a real
ocean.
snip
50 miles offshore.....wow....was it bad.....did the boat tip.....

Not very likely. Actually I had more offshore experience in previous
(and other person's) boats. Now I travel with wife and kid; they're
not as fond of slugging through weather in the middle of the night as
I used to be.



http://www.rlyachts.net/index24.asp
in that case this little boat is a world cruiser too.
i have had this out in one of our (storms) fresh breeze to us
broached surfing down a wave ...yes i was being and idiot but i was
having a ball at the time from memory the forecast at the time 40 to 45
knot winds 3 meter swell with 2 to 3 meter waves.yes i was knackerd
after wards sore bruised ribs ect does it stop me NO.

If this is what you consider an offshore boat why are you asking about
Hunters?

....
Wind and waves do not bother me....reefs fog big tides yes that makes me
very nervous and those great big slab sided things called container
ships scare the **** outa me.
P.S does the Indian ocean qualify as a REAL ocean

Here in New England we don't have reefs, but do have rocks, lots of
fog, and big tides. The container ships we send to New York.

The North Atlantic counts as a real ocean too, but most of us stay off
it during the winter.

Jeff wrote:
shaun wrote:

Jeff wrote:
snip



Not really. Even though I've been on dozens of trips 10 times longer
than your little hop, including being 50 miles offshore a number of
times, I wouldn't presume to advise on the offshore capability of a
vessel other than one I've actually sailed in heavy weather, on a
real ocean.
snip

50 miles offshore.....wow....was it bad.....did the boat tip.....


Not very likely. Actually I had more offshore experience in previous
(and other person's) boats. Now I travel with wife and kid; they're not
as fond of slugging through weather in the middle of the night as I used
to be.



http://www.rlyachts.net/index24.asp
in that case this little boat is a world cruiser too.
i have had this out in one of our (storms) fresh breeze to us
broached surfing down a wave ...yes i was being and idiot but i was
having a ball at the time from memory the forecast at the time 40 to
45 knot winds 3 meter swell with 2 to 3 meter waves.yes i was knackerd
after wards sore bruised ribs ect does it stop me NO.


If this is what you consider an offshore boat why are you asking about
Hunters?

...

Wind and waves do not bother me....reefs fog big tides yes that makes
me very nervous and those great big slab sided things called container
ships scare the **** outa me.
P.S does the Indian ocean qualify as a REAL ocean


Here in New England we don't have reefs, but do have rocks, lots of fog,
and big tides. The container ships we send to New York.

The North Atlantic counts as a real ocean too, but most of us stay off
it during the winter.

Sorry ..i was pulling your leg..
no the little rl24 is ok for a hop or simular but not a real trip.
Shaun

shaun wrote:
Jeff wrote:
shaun wrote:
...
Wind and waves do not bother me....reefs fog big tides yes that makes
me very nervous and those great big slab sided things called
container ships scare the **** outa me.
P.S does the Indian ocean qualify as a REAL ocean


Here in New England we don't have reefs, but do have rocks, lots of
fog, and big tides. The container ships we send to New York.

The North Atlantic counts as a real ocean too, but most of us stay off
it during the winter.

Sorry ..i was pulling your leg..
no the little rl24 is ok for a hop or simular but not a real trip.

No need to apologize - From what I saw of the Western Australia waters
from the America's Cup in Fremantle, anyone who would go out in that
in a trailer boat is entitled to do a little leg pulling.

But what's this about tides? It looks like the tidal range for most
of WA is under a meter, though Exmouth gets up over 2 meters. Here in
Boston its 3 meters, and gets up towards 4 meters near the Canadian
border. Of course, if you go further, the tides get extreme - spring
tides of 16 meters are found.

I've always wanted to do the Reversing Falls in St. John:
http://www.pelorus-jack.com/boat/02_...nd/canada.html

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
But what's this about tides? It looks like the tidal range for most of WA
is under a meter, though Exmouth gets up over 2 meters. Here in Boston
its 3 meters, and gets up towards 4 meters near the Canadian border. Of
course, if you go further, the tides get extreme - spring tides of 16
meters are found.

I've always wanted to do the Reversing Falls in St. John:
http://www.pelorus-jack.com/boat/02_...nd/canada.html

You folks ain't seen nothing 'til you've had to deal with tides like we have
in Green Bay. Why there was a time this past summer when we had a whopping
six inches. Top THAT! ;-)