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Anchor Chain Report
Our boat was equipped with a rather comical anchor chain by a former
owner. So it has been on my list to replace it with either 5/16" or 3/8" chain (hot-dip galvanized of course) with an eye towards eventually putting on a windlass too. This past weekend, on our way down to the boat, we stopped at Agri-Supply and bought some hi-test 3/8" hot-dip galvanized chain for the whopping price of ... way less than $100 ... for a 40 shot of chain for our main anchor. http://www.agri-supply.com/catmain/3700006.htm We of course had to go anhcor out and test it, which we did, with the help of two sailing friends who rafted up each side of us. Quiet, isolated anchorage. Lovely sunset. Hot, but with a enough breeze to make it tolerable. A couple glasses of wine. Interesting talk (mostly about boats). Didn't budge, and the anchor was actually easier to raise the next morning because the larger chain was easier to grip & stack. Getting a windlass is still on the list. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Sounds a bit cheaper than West Marine - WM is $3.99 for the 5/16HT I use, your place is
$1.19! But am I missing something? I always thought a shot was 90 feet. Did you really get 3600 feet of chain for $100? "DSK" wrote in message ... Our boat was equipped with a rather comical anchor chain by a former owner. So it has been on my list to replace it with either 5/16" or 3/8" chain (hot-dip galvanized of course) with an eye towards eventually putting on a windlass too. This past weekend, on our way down to the boat, we stopped at Agri-Supply and bought some hi-test 3/8" hot-dip galvanized chain for the whopping price of ... way less than $100 ... for a 40 shot of chain for our main anchor. http://www.agri-supply.com/catmain/3700006.htm We of course had to go anhcor out and test it, which we did, with the help of two sailing friends who rafted up each side of us. Quiet, isolated anchorage. Lovely sunset. Hot, but with a enough breeze to make it tolerable. A couple glasses of wine. Interesting talk (mostly about boats). Didn't budge, and the anchor was actually easier to raise the next morning because the larger chain was easier to grip & stack. Getting a windlass is still on the list. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Jeff Morris wrote: Sounds a bit cheaper than West Marine - WM is $3.99 for the 5/16HT I use, your place is $1.19! Yep. I thought for sure there must be a catch, but after closely examining the chain from both sources, the chain seems identical. But am I missing something? I always thought a shot was 90 feet. Did you really get 3600 feet of chain for $100? Sorry, I was using "shot" informally & casually... I wonder if the NIST has a shot-measure standard, call 'em up and tell 'em we need to calibrate..... Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Anchor Chain Report
As I have said before, Walk into West Moron and ask for 3/8 high test
anchor chain and pay $5/ft. Walk into an industrial supply house and ask for hot dipped Grade 40 and pay $2 for the same thing. DSK wrote: Jeff Morris wrote: Sounds a bit cheaper than West Marine - WM is $3.99 for the 5/16HT I use, your place is $1.19! Yep. I thought for sure there must be a catch, but after closely examining the chain from both sources, the chain seems identical. But am I missing something? I always thought a shot was 90 feet. Did you really get 3600 feet of chain for $100? Sorry, I was using "shot" informally & casually... I wonder if the NIST has a shot-measure standard, call 'em up and tell 'em we need to calibrate..... Fresh Breezes- Doug King -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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If you get an od ball metric chain wheel you will have a problem but
American chain dimensions and minimum working loads are pretty well standardized by DOT and OSHA. Grade 28 and 30 come in two patterns, Proof coil and BBB. Grade 40 (formerly 43) is High test. Grade 70 is transport chain. Grades 40 and 70 all have exactly the same dimensions regardless of make. The difference is that Grade 70 is heat treated. Heat treating makes it stronger but more subject to corosion. Grades 63, 80 and 100 are lifting chains and are different sizes from HT. They will not fit most windlasses. You can buy ACCO 3/8" High test from West for $5.55/foot or Campbell 3/8" Grade 40 from an industrial supplier for $2.00/ft but you will get exactly the same thing. Steve wrote: Be careful of using industrial chain if you are going to buy a anchor windlass in the future. Most anchor winch manufactures size their chain wheels to ISO standards for chain. A lot of times an industrial supplier will sell chain that is sized using ISO for the wire size and the dimensions for the links are built to metric dimensions. The reason for the lower price on this type of chain is their is less welds per foot. If you are not going to buy an anchor windlass, you don't need to worry. When you are buying a windlass from a dealer who also supplies the chain, the fit of the chain to the windlass is usually guaranteed, if you supply the chain from an industrial supply house, you are responsible for the fit. -- Thanks, O_salt "Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message ... As I have said before, Walk into West Moron and ask for 3/8 high test anchor chain and pay $5/ft. Walk into an industrial supply house and ask for hot dipped Grade 40 and pay $2 for the same thing. DSK wrote: Jeff Morris wrote: Sounds a bit cheaper than West Marine - WM is $3.99 for the 5/16HT I use, your place is $1.19! Yep. I thought for sure there must be a catch, but after closely examining the chain from both sources, the chain seems identical. But am I missing something? I always thought a shot was 90 feet. Did you really get 3600 feet of chain for $100? Sorry, I was using "shot" informally & casually... I wonder if the NIST has a shot-measure standard, call 'em up and tell 'em we need to calibrate..... Fresh Breezes- Doug King -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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x-no-archive:yes Glenn Ashmore wrote:
If you get an od ball metric chain wheel you will have a problem but American chain dimensions and minimum working loads are pretty well standardized by DOT and OSHA. Grade 28 and 30 come in two patterns, Proof coil and BBB. Grade 40 (formerly 43) is High test. Grade 70 is transport chain. Grades 40 and 70 all have exactly the same dimensions regardless of make. The difference is that Grade 70 is heat treated. Heat treating makes it stronger but more subject to corosion. Grades 63, 80 and 100 are lifting chains and are different sizes from HT. They will not fit most windlasses. You can buy ACCO 3/8" High test from West for $5.55/foot or Campbell 3/8" Grade 40 from an industrial supplier for $2.00/ft but you will get exactly the same thing. I think the idea is that lifting chain which is cheaper will not be the same as transport or windlass chain. And people who don't know the difference might think that lifting chain was OK to use, not knowing that difference between that and HT. Even a cheaper chain if you buy a lot of it will be a considerable investment. We could have picked up the ACCO chain direct from the distributer for cheaper, but then we'd have had to transport it (we got something like half barrel or 3/4 barrel) and that stuff is really heavy - too heavy for a car. Steve wrote: Be careful of using industrial chain if you are going to buy a anchor windlass in the future. Most anchor winch manufactures size their chain wheels to ISO standards for chain. A lot of times an industrial supplier will sell chain that is sized using ISO for the wire size and the dimensions for the links are built to metric dimensions. The reason for the lower price on this type of chain is their is less welds per foot. If you are not going to buy an anchor windlass, you don't need to worry. When you are buying a windlass from a dealer who also supplies the chain, the fit of the chain to the windlass is usually guaranteed, if you supply the chain from an industrial supply house, you are responsible for the fit. -- Thanks, O_salt "Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message ... As I have said before, Walk into West Moron and ask for 3/8 high test anchor chain and pay $5/ft. Walk into an industrial supply house and ask for hot dipped Grade 40 and pay $2 for the same thing. DSK wrote: Jeff Morris wrote: Sounds a bit cheaper than West Marine - WM is $3.99 for the 5/16HT I use, your place is $1.19! Yep. I thought for sure there must be a catch, but after closely examining the chain from both sources, the chain seems identical. But am I missing something? I always thought a shot was 90 feet. Did you really get 3600 feet of chain for $100? Sorry, I was using "shot" informally & casually... I wonder if the NIST has a shot-measure standard, call 'em up and tell 'em we need to calibrate..... Fresh Breezes- Doug King -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com grandma Rosalie |
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Anchor Chain Report
I just bought a drum of 3/8" BBB galvanized chain from these people very
reasonable delivered to my door in NC. I shopped everywhere and they gave me the most bang for the buck and a good product. http://www.hkchainusa.com/index.html Phil |
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I just bought a drum of 3/8" BBB galvanized chain from these people very
reasonable delivered to my door in NC. I shopped everywhere and they gave me the most bang for the buck and a good product. http://www.hkchainusa.com/index.html Phil "Steve" wrote in message t... Be careful of using industrial chain if you are going to buy a anchor windlass in the future. Most anchor winch manufactures size their chain wheels to ISO standards for chain. A lot of times an industrial supplier will sell chain that is sized using ISO for the wire size and the dimensions for the links are built to metric dimensions. The reason for the lower price on this type of chain is their is less welds per foot. If you are not going to buy an anchor windlass, you don't need to worry. When you are buying a windlass from a dealer who also supplies the chain, the fit of the chain to the windlass is usually guaranteed, if you supply the chain from an industrial supply house, you are responsible for the fit. -- Thanks, O_salt "Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message ... As I have said before, Walk into West Moron and ask for 3/8 high test anchor chain and pay $5/ft. Walk into an industrial supply house and ask for hot dipped Grade 40 and pay $2 for the same thing. DSK wrote: Jeff Morris wrote: Sounds a bit cheaper than West Marine - WM is $3.99 for the 5/16HT I use, your place is $1.19! Yep. I thought for sure there must be a catch, but after closely examining the chain from both sources, the chain seems identical. But am I missing something? I always thought a shot was 90 feet. Did you really get 3600 feet of chain for $100? Sorry, I was using "shot" informally & casually... I wonder if the NIS T has a shot-measure standard, call 'em up and tell 'em we need to calibrate..... Fresh Breezes- Doug King -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 06:56:35 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote: But am I missing something? I always thought a shot was 90 feet. It has ****all to do with boating, but there is a unit of measure known as a chain. Composed of one hundred links, it is 66 feet long, or four rods, or one tenth of a furlong. Used for land surveying by guys like George Washington. More than a century after adoption of the steel tape, guys were calling them chains. Some guys still refer to the process of measurement as chaining, even when done electronically. Casady |
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"Richard Casady" wrote in message ... On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 06:56:35 -0400, "Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote: But am I missing something? I always thought a shot was 90 feet. It has ****all to do with boating, but there is a unit of measure known as a chain. Composed of one hundred links, it is 66 feet long, or four rods, or one tenth of a furlong. Used for land surveying by guys like George Washington. More than a century after adoption of the steel tape, guys were calling them chains. Some guys still refer to the process of measurement as chaining, even when done electronically. Casady I'll bet those surveyor guys are glad they don't have to cart all that chain around anymore..... |
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