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Hi Dale:
This site claims 2641 gallons per hector: http://www.oilgae.com/algae/oil/yield/yield.html Gallons of Oil per Acre per Year Corn . . . . . . . 18 Soybeans . . . .48 Safflower. . . . . 83 Sunflower . . . 102 Rapeseed. . . 127 Oil Palm . . . . 635 Micro Algae . .5000-15000: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directo...from_Algae_Oil The highest yield feedstock for biodiesel is hydroponic algae, which can produce 250 times the amount per acre as soybeans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel Micro algaes present the best option for producing Bio Fuel such as biodiesel in quantities sufficient to completely replace petroleum. While traditional crops have yields of around 50-150 gallons of biodiesel per acre per year, algaes can yield 5,000-20,000 gallons per acre per year. http://www.solaroof.org/wiki/SolaRoof/MassAlgaeCulture a.. Different algae species produce different amounts of oil. Some algae ( diatoms for instance) produce up to 50% oil by weight. http://www.castoroil.in/reference/pl...sel_algae.html a.. Soybean: 40 to 50 US gal/acre (40 to 50 m³/km²) b.. Rapeseed: 110 to 145 US gal/acre (100 to 140 m³/km²) c.. Mustard: 140 US gal/acre (130 m³/km²) d.. Jatropha: 175 US gal/acre (160 m³/km²) e.. Palm oil: 650 US gal/acre (610 m³/km²) [2] f.. Algae: 10,000 to 20,000 US gal/acre (10,000 to 20,000 m³/km²) http://www.biodieseltechnologiesindi...elsources.html These are just a few sites, and I'm sure there are some more detailed sites out there. -- SeeYaa ![]() !sdohtem noitpyrcne devorppa-tnemnrevog troppus I - "Dale Eastman" wrote in message nk.net... Oil yields are...? See my other post. Harbin Osteen wrote: Grow alge, no tractor required. "Dale Eastman" wrote in message link.net... wrote: Biodiesel is just replacing one type of emission with another - and it takes a lot of power to harvest/process the stuff. One square mile is 640 acres. One square mile is 5280 feet by 5280 feet. A tractor pulling a 30 foot wide disc plow will requi 5280/30 = 176 passes. That's 176 linear miles to plow the entire 640 acres. Now the next question is, how much horsepower (fuel consumed) to cover the 176 miles? And then there are the herbicide/pesticide/fertilizer/harvest passes also. Take it away Nick. -- Anybody answering this post consents to having their replies posted on my website. (Not that I need your consent since you post to public domain.) |
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Thank you. The links give me something to read...
And a little more hope in Peak Oil. Harbin Osteen wrote: Hi Dale: This site claims 2641 gallons per hector: http://www.oilgae.com/algae/oil/yield/yield.html Gallons of Oil per Acre per Year Corn . . . . . . . 18 Soybeans . . . .48 Safflower. . . . . 83 Sunflower . . . 102 Rapeseed. . . 127 Oil Palm . . . . 635 Micro Algae . .5000-15000: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directo...from_Algae_Oil The highest yield feedstock for biodiesel is hydroponic algae, which can produce 250 times the amount per acre as soybeans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel Micro algaes present the best option for producing Bio Fuel such as biodiesel in quantities sufficient to completely replace petroleum. While traditional crops have yields of around 50-150 gallons of biodiesel per acre per year, algaes can yield 5,000-20,000 gallons per acre per year. http://www.solaroof.org/wiki/SolaRoof/MassAlgaeCulture a.. Different algae species produce different amounts of oil. Some algae ( diatoms for instance) produce up to 50% oil by weight. http://www.castoroil.in/reference/pl...sel_algae.html a.. Soybean: 40 to 50 US gal/acre (40 to 50 m³/km²) b.. Rapeseed: 110 to 145 US gal/acre (100 to 140 m³/km²) c.. Mustard: 140 US gal/acre (130 m³/km²) d.. Jatropha: 175 US gal/acre (160 m³/km²) e.. Palm oil: 650 US gal/acre (610 m³/km²) [2] f.. Algae: 10,000 to 20,000 US gal/acre (10,000 to 20,000 m³/km²) http://www.biodieseltechnologiesindi...elsources.html These are just a few sites, and I'm sure there are some more detailed sites out there. -- Anybody answering this post consents to having their replies posted on my website. (Not that I need your consent since you post to public domain.) |
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![]() "Dale Eastman" wrote in message nk.net... wrote: Dale Eastman wrote: ... how much horsepower (fuel consumed) to cover the 176 miles? Take it away Nick. Foist, the question might be "how many horsepower-HOURS" of energy?" And how much force times 176 miles? Nick Yes. That is the question required for a starting point... And I dunno the answer. I do know that the bigger tractors have 450+ horses available. We need a farmer to give us (more like you ![]() figures. I saw a show on discovery channel about the worlds largest tractors.IIRC they used about 1 gallon per acre for one pass plowing. |
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:11:54 GMT, Dale Eastman
wrote: I do know that the bigger tractors have 450+ horses available. We need a farmer to give us (more like you ![]() figures. It's easy to get some ballpark estimates. If you assume a tractor speed of 6 mph it will take about 30 hours to do a square mile. At 200 average horsepower that will require about 300 gallons of diesel. |
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![]() digitalmaster wrote: "Dale Eastman" wrote in message nk.net... wrote: Dale Eastman wrote: ... how much horsepower (fuel consumed) to cover the 176 miles? Take it away Nick. Foist, the question might be "how many horsepower-HOURS" of energy?" And how much force times 176 miles? Nick Yes. That is the question required for a starting point... And I dunno the answer. I do know that the bigger tractors have 450+ horses available. We need a farmer to give us (more like you ![]() figures. I saw a show on discovery channel about the worlds largest tractors.IIRC they used about 1 gallon per acre for one pass plowing. Did you catch the width of the plow. Makes a little difference. 30' wide is approx.: 176/640 = .275 miles per acre. Where 176 is the number of passes (1 mile each) with a 30' wide plow to cover 640 acres (1 mi. sq.). 1 gallon per acre equals 1 gallon per .275 miles. 1/.275 = 3.64 gallons per mile (not miles per gallon). Now I'll post this and then likely find somebody beat me to the punch. |
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![]() Dale Eastman wrote: Now I'll post this and then likely find somebody beat me to the punch. I'd rather get beat to the punch than to get punched to the beat. |
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![]() Tony Wesley wrote: Dale Eastman wrote: Now I'll post this and then likely find somebody beat me to the punch. I'd rather get beat to the punch than to get punched to the beat. If I have to get punched to the beat, could we have a waltz? |
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Harbin Osteen wrote:
Snip..... Biodiesel is just replacing one type of emission with another - and it takes a lot of power to harvest/process the stuff. For these types of purposes, there is an ancient form of power, called human power. Snip.... Yes, it does replace one emmission with another, but it is at least a closed carbon cycle. You take up carbon when you grow the crop (and my prefered crop is alge, which will double in 24 to 48 hours) and relese it when burned in combustion. Human power is great, but not for everything, just as the diesel bike is not good for everything, but fills a nitch that could be useful to some. Okay - fair enough - biodiesel and powered equipment has its uses. My point was that, although crossposted to many groups, the initial point was a biodiesel motorbike onboard a cruising sailboat, which I think is impractical, un-neseccary, and better tools exist to do that particular job, ie human power. Biodiesel is a good replacement for fossil fuel, but it does have environmental costs. |
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