Larry wrote:
From time to time the heated discussions on this newsgroup about those
mysterious chemical boxes under the settee that keep the lights on
arises.

Well, over on alt.binaries.e-book.technical someone has posted:
Electric Vehicle Battery Systems - S. Dhameja (Newnes, 2001) WW.pdf
which my robot dutifully downloaded this morning with its big load of
books/manuals/etc., I'll probably never have time to read.


OK, I spent a couple hours monkeying around with various
freeware, downloads, configuring, blah blah blah... not my
idea of fun but I know you geeks love that kind of
diversion. I eventually downloaded 'Electric Vehicle Battery
Systems' and about a hundred other books (left it running
all night) that looked interesting.

Thanks. This may turn out to be a useful reference. I would
recommend this only for serious geeks though.

DSK

DSK wrote in news:z2uGg.32000$Nx4.13950
@bignews8.bellsouth.net:

Thanks. This may turn out to be a useful reference. I would
recommend this only for serious geeks though.



You're welcome. Now that you know how, don't expect to just walk away.
Once trapped in the "Binary Downloading Addiction", it's very hard to NOT
download "just a little more because I'd really like to (read/hear/see)
that."

Don't fight it. Hard drives and DVD burners are just so cheap....(c;

I see you're on DSL on Bell$not. You're well on your way to bending that
bandwidth....(c; Welcome to the 21st Century! It's a helluva ride!



--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

Larry wrote:
You're welcome. Now that you know how, don't expect to just walk away.
Once trapped in the "Binary Downloading Addiction", it's very hard to NOT
download "just a little more because I'd really like to (read/hear/see)
that."


Yeah well, I seem to be able to resist the "more is better"
philosophy. Most people... very especialy most Americans
(steeped a culture of excess)... will quickly overload on
anything free.

In this particular case, the usenet binary groups a great
reference resource *if* you have the tools to sort through
2,000 posts a day (don't these people have a life?!?).
X-news seems better than any of the dinosaur-ware I am
familiar with, but I just plain don't want to spend the time.


Don't fight it. Hard drives and DVD burners are just so cheap....(c;

I don't like farting around with the computer that much, not
my idea of fun. There's a REAL world out there! It can be
scary but it's a helluva ride!

Thanks again
Doug King

DSK wrote:
Larry wrote:

You're welcome. Now that you know how, don't expect to just walk
away. Once trapped in the "Binary Downloading Addiction", it's very
hard to NOT download "just a little more because I'd really like to
(read/hear/see) that."


Yeah well, I seem to be able to resist the "more is better" philosophy.
Most people... very especialy most Americans (steeped a culture of
excess)... will quickly overload on anything free.

In this particular case, the usenet binary groups a great reference
resource *if* you have the tools to sort through 2,000 posts a day
(don't these people have a life?!?). X-news seems better than any of the
dinosaur-ware I am familiar with, but I just plain don't want to spend
the time.


Don't fight it. Hard drives and DVD burners are just so cheap....(c;


I don't like farting around with the computer that much, not my idea of
fun. There's a REAL world out there! It can be scary but it's a helluva
ride!

The main value of "the real world" is human beings, not their arms or
their hair or even their faces, it's their ideas. The amazing thing
about computers and the internet is that computers actually concentrate
and organize human ideas in such a way as to make them phenomenally more
available and accessible than they've ever been. This is a good thing.

Stephen

Stephen Trapani wrote in news:iHKGg.24$Zt7.10
@newsfe04.lga:

The amazing thing
about computers and the internet is that computers actually concentrate
and organize human ideas in such a way as to make them phenomenally more
available and accessible than they've ever been. This is a good thing.


The Illuminati disagree. It makes humans far less "controllable", this
internet....

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

Larry wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote in news:iHKGg.24$Zt7.10
@newsfe04.lga:


The amazing thing
about computers and the internet is that computers actually concentrate
and organize human ideas in such a way as to make them phenomenally more
available and accessible than they've ever been. This is a good thing.



The Illuminati disagree. It makes humans far less "controllable", this
internet....



What makes you think they can't control this medium also. They could
insert their own agents spreading dis-information while tracking down
and eliminating non-conforming posters. I'd be very careful.

Don White wrote in news:17YGg.60$9u.2475@ursa-
nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:

What makes you think they can't control this medium also. They could
insert their own agents spreading dis-information while tracking down
and eliminating non-conforming posters. I'd be very careful.



Too many bloggers....regular folks. It's the old "they can't arrest us
all" scenario...

Case in point is Mahmood in rigidly-controlled Bahrain. It's a great
read from a really nice Arab the Illuminati would really rather you
didn't get to know:
http://mahmood.tv
He's in the video business in Bahrain and there are lots of vlogs from
his website. After you read it the third time, you'd swear you were part
of Mahmood's family. His regular jabs and reporting unpleasant aspects
of Bahraini government bureaucrats, politicians and the royal family is
very revealing about Arab society. Right now there's a big row amoungst
Bahraini bloggers because the Bahraini elite, who control the telephone
company internet, have cut off access to Google Earth. Google Earth
recently switched from low res to very high resolution pictures of the
whole island. Bahrainis could now peer OVER the compound walls of the
filthy rich and look around their palaces to see where all the money has
gone. It made them nervous...(c; I'm amazed these bloggers aren't all
in a concentration camp.

Disinformation posters are real easy to spot. The blogger community soon
expose them and they are forced to back out and restart. Start reading
alt.cellular.verizon and see if you can spot the company shills, who
always support the company, no matter how stupid or wrong they are...in
the face of consumers reporting on poor performance and service....

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

DSK wrote in news:4aDGg.695$T8.50
@bignews3.bellsouth.net:

I don't like farting around with the computer that much, not
my idea of fun. There's a REAL world out there! It can be
scary but it's a helluva ride!

Thanks again
Doug King




Over on alt.binaries.ebook.technical, today, there is a series of books
whos subject begins with OSPREY-Elite sailors will find fascinating. For
the last couple of hours, I've had my monster widescreen monitor in
portrait mode vertically so Acrobat makes the big 21" screen a full page of
the documents.

"Elizabethan Sea Dogs 1560-1605" and "Queen Victoria's Commanders" are most
fascinating. WW1 and WW2 are also very well covered, mostly from a British
perspective.



--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

Stephen Trapani wrote:
The main value of "the real world" is human beings

To some extent, yeah. But the seas & rivers & forests &
mountains & animals & sky are pretty cool too.

.... not their arms or
their hair or even their faces, it's their ideas.

"Trouble not the scholar in his dusty attic, for to you the
great empires of this age are mighty but to him they are to
be overturned with the flick of a finger." - quote from a
Renaissance philosopher whose name I can't recall....

... The amazing thing
about computers and the internet is that computers actually concentrate
and organize human ideas in such a way as to make them phenomenally more
available and accessible than they've ever been. This is a good thing.


I agree totally... shucks, that's why I'm here! OTOH a trend
that must be fought tooth and nail is the tendency to sit
around and Think Big Thinks, make yak-yak, and fiddle with
the computer as if it is important in itself.

My company has hired six engineers in the past decade, and
every last one of them thinks "work" consists of sitting on
their butt in front of a computer. Only one or two have a
vague idea of how to get on their feet and get things doen
in the real world... otoh I shouldn't complain about this
since it is my greatest job security.

To be a bit more on-topic, a lesson to be drawn from many in
this newsgroup is that buying a boat, fixing up a boat,
talking about boats & sailing & cruising, are all fine
things... but they're not the same as GOING CRUISING!!






Larry wrote:
Over on alt.binaries.ebook.technical, today, there is a series of books
whos subject begins with OSPREY-Elite sailors will find fascinating.....

"Elizabethan Sea Dogs 1560-1605" and "Queen Victoria's Commanders" are most
fascinating. WW1 and WW2 are also very well covered, mostly from a British
perspective.

Oh yes, I noticed those, but I'm still busy downloading 150
engineering texts. In fact really useful stuff on composite
structures keeps showing up faster than I can download it.

As yet another example of what I'm trying to point out
above, if I had found out about this last year I'd still be
studying how to build my dinghy instead of 90% done building
it... which reminds me, I gotta get off my butt and go to work!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

DSK wrote in news:ARXGg.313$C6.176
@bignews1.bellsouth.net:

Oh yes, I noticed those, but I'm still busy downloading 150
engineering texts. In fact really useful stuff on composite
structures keeps showing up faster than I can download it.


The size of the boat library you can take on a long, mostly boring voyage,
on a single DVD would sink a 70' motor yacht.

I loved the quotation. I forget which English economics professor said it,
but back in the late 1700's he said something like:

A democracy can only exist until the electorate discovers that they can
vote themselves an income from the public treasury.....something to that
effect. America's gone past that line many year ago....