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ray lunder wrote:
Ahoy, I'm trying to figure out how to install this plastic holding tank. So let's be optimistic and say the tank is half full and you want to pump it all out and you're 3 miles out, etc. You open both sea cocks, divert the Y valve to the holding tank and start pumping. But doesn't this just fill the holding tank with sal****er as it flushes out the waste? I want the tank to be clean and empty, right? Sorry if this is dumb, I've never had a tank before. It's 6 gallons with two 1 1/2" stubs, one of which goes down to the bottom of the tank, and one 3/4" vent. Where does the vent get installed? All the stubs are on top of the tank. Thank you. What is the point of having a holding tank and pumping all of your waste matter into the sea? Is it me? Am I nuts? Or is the idea not to have the waste properly disposed of ashore? I thought the UK idea of direct waste discharge into the sea was bad enough, but now I'm beginning to wonder! 3 miles out? Jeez! |
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"Dennis Pogson" wrote in
: What is the point of having a holding tank and pumping all of your waste matter into the sea? Is it me? Am I nuts? Or is the idea not to have the waste properly disposed of ashore? I thought the UK idea of direct waste discharge into the sea was bad enough, but now I'm beginning to wonder! 3 miles out? Jeez! See those big ships? They don't have a holding tank...(c; Little boaters produce .000000001% of the **** a whale produces. Humans are so queer. IT"S RECYCLED if you don't fill it with nasty chemicals! It has been for millions of years! |
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Larry wrote:
"Dennis Pogson" wrote in : What is the point of having a holding tank and pumping all of your waste matter into the sea? Is it me? Am I nuts? Or is the idea not to have the waste properly disposed of ashore? I thought the UK idea of direct waste discharge into the sea was bad enough, but now I'm beginning to wonder! 3 miles out? Jeez! See those big ships? They don't have a holding tank...(c; Little boaters produce .000000001% of the **** a whale produces. Humans are so queer. IT"S RECYCLED if you don't fill it with nasty chemicals! It has been for millions of years! If the Japanese get their way, there won't be any whales! Probably much more significant is the thought of 1500 million Chinese with their junks, all equipped with thunderboxes at the stern. Why are we in the Western world so obsessed with such matters I wonder? Your small boat legislation must have created a tidy living for some folks! There will be a few entrepreneurs on our tiny crowded island here in UK who can't wait for us to catch up! Dennis. |
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"Dennis Pogson" wrote in news:cD8qg.5210
: Why are we in the Western world so obsessed with such matters I wonder? Same as always.....You get a big lobbiest to bribe them into writing and passing legislation making it illegal to **** over the side within 100 miles of land. You, of course, being the manufacturer of amazingly expensive solutions to this problem. A regulation is written and enforced with guns and threats of prison for anyone who dares **** over the side, not buying your industries' solutions to the non-existant problem. You sit back and collect a fortune from the inmates to this asylum, forced to buy from you items they don't really need. Just follow the money trail...... I was adding 800 gallons of diesel to a Hatteras 56 MY at a local fuel dock. A tiny spray of diesel from the huge tankage came out the vent as she approached full. The woman watching from the sailboat 2 docks over came unglued! I destroyed the planet! 3 of those wigglers that plug up the air conditioner strainers died! She needs to take a trip on a freighter from down in the engine room....(c; I still **** over the side.....bite me! It's a man thing....(c; Why? BECAUSE WE CAN! |
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"green" people are funny.......you should have seen all the
%$#@ that came off of our aircraft carrier....as it steamed around the world...(us navy - cva-61)... "See those big ships? They don't have a holding tank...(c; Little boaters produce .000000001% of the **** a whale produces. Humans are so queer. IT"S RECYCLED if you don't fill it with nasty chemicals! It has been for millions of years!" |
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Aircraft carriers treat the waste with enzymes before ejecting it, in
the same manner that your backyard septic system does before it goes to the leaching field and then into the groundwater. Nevertheless, too much "material" cannot be recycled. Which is why most harbors have fecal bacteria counts way above safe levels. That mixed with engine oil and fuel make for a toxic swill that never gets "recycled". To say that it "just gets recycled" is as stupid as saying that there's no such thing as polluted water. If you were to dump your waste three miles from shore in many areas of the world, you would end up paying a hefty fine. In pristine areas like Bonaire, you would do third-world jail time -- not a laughing matter. As far as the Chinese, hygene seems to be of no interest to them. I've made nunmerous trips to Hong Kong, and was amazed at how filthy the city and water are. On 3 Jul 2006 08:54:58 -0700, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote: "green" people are funny.......you should have seen all the %$#@ that came off of our aircraft carrier....as it steamed around the world...(us navy - cva-61)... "See those big ships? They don't have a holding tank...(c; Little boaters produce .000000001% of the **** a whale produces. Humans are so queer. IT"S RECYCLED if you don't fill it with nasty chemicals! It has been for millions of years!" |
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Cindy wrote in
: To say that it "just gets recycled" is as stupid as saying that there's no such thing as polluted water. What was the **** doing in the millions of years before the chemical industry made it so toxic the bacteria couldn't eat it? None of the OTHER animals ever had a septic system that **** in the ocean! It's hard to imagine, sitting on top of a pristine coral reef off some tropical island where the water is SO clean the boat looks like it's embedded in a 50' thick piece of glass all the way down to the bottom, that there's not a single chemical treatment plant processing all the **** from all those billions of animals I can see under the boat, from the dolphin trying to get me to throw him another cookie, to the trillions of coral animals expelling their waste into the water out those tiny holes..... Nope....doesn't wash. The water is FULL of it and it looks just beautiful after NATURE, not man's stupid technologies he looks to for all the answers, recycles it back into more animals/plants...and water. JUST DON'T FOLLOW THE WHALES!....PU! |
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![]() Larry wrote: What was the **** doing in the millions of years before the chemical industry made it so toxic the bacteria couldn't eat it? None of the OTHER animals ever had a septic system that **** in the ocean! Remind me not to have dinner at your place. With those comments I suspect ya just **** in your kitchen sink and wipe your ass with an old sock that ya toss on the floor. If the it dont matter where ya **** I dare you go swimming in the mississippi river around NO, LA a few hours a day. Let me know what kind of stuff ya get growing on your skin. |
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My holding tank is plumbed to the thru hull with only a ball valve.
The toilet line is teed at that point with a leg to the tank. When I want to purge, I close off the air vent lines using installed ball valves, open the through hull and activate a tire pump plumbed to one of the vent lines, which evacuates the tank in about a minute or two. No expensive submerged parts. All other aspect of the system are typical. Using the air purge allows me to inspect the function of the joker valve. If ever it leaks back while purging, I will know it needs service. Total air pressure used in this sytem is about 1 or 2 pounds. If the pipes can't take that, they would need servicing soon. Terry K |
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