Maybe you already learned this the hard way. If not, trust me, you
will want to know.

If the knob on the pumping handle is loose, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

Mine came off and, as I tried to screw it back on, the handle
disappeared inside the pump. The only way to get it out is to take
the pump off the base which will be in mid pumping cycle (let your
imagination run wild). The lengths of the handle is such that it must
be EXACTLY centered as the piston rings go in. Since one side of the
first ring will always go in first, the handle will never be centered
in the hole. Already frustrated by trying to get out the screws that
Groco located in such a way that no screwdriver can reach one of them,
you will spend the next 45 minutes hunched over with your hands
covered with that Teflon grease that Peggie likes so much (since this
is a good opportunity to to that job), and everything that wasn't
pumped, trying to get the magic combination of pushing and pinching
that will get the piston back in. Then 20 minutes of screwing in the
innermost screw in 3 degree increments with a right angle screwdriver
taking the bit out for each change in angle. Add in a hot day and a
tight schedule any you have a wonderful start to the day.

One word: LOCKTITE!

--

Roger Long

On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:32:53 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

Maybe you already learned this the hard way. If not, trust me, you
will want to know.

If the knob on the pumping handle is loose, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

Swap the whole thing for an electric head, you will never regret it.

If the knob on the pumping handle is loose, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!


Wayne.B wrote:
Swap the whole thing for an electric head, you will never regret it.


Not only that, you won't have lubbers breaking your head all
the time, since all they have to do to flush is push a
button. Easier & simpler than at home!

DSK

My boating tastes are a little too Amish like for that. I can't
believe I have a boat with hot and cold running water and am using a
GPS. One of my ambitions when I was young was to have a boat without
a single piece of electric wire in it, hand start diesel, kerosene
lamps. Well, maybe a flashlight but that wire would only run from the
back of the case to the bulb. Wood, of course, but that's something
else that has faded away with my youth.

--

Roger Long



"DSK" wrote in message
...
If the knob on the pumping handle is loose, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!


Wayne.B wrote:
Swap the whole thing for an electric head, you will never regret
it.


Not only that, you won't have lubbers breaking your head all the
time, since all they have to do to flush is push a button. Easier &
simpler than at home!

DSK

Roger Long wrote:

My boating tastes are a little too Amish like for that. I can't
believe I have a boat with hot and cold running water and am using a
GPS. One of my ambitions when I was young was to have a boat without
a single piece of electric wire in it, hand start diesel, kerosene
lamps. Well, maybe a flashlight but that wire would only run from the
back of the case to the bulb. Wood, of course, but that's something
else that has faded away with my youth.



Yeah well, once you cave in and get a fiberglass boat,
you've already started that long slide into the pit of
decadence.

The selling point for me was the push button flush. My
attitude towards boat guests has always been, "Pay attention
enough to learn to use the head properly, or else hold it
until we get ashore."

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:53:21 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

My boating tastes are a little too Amish like for that.

The Amish are very practical people. After fixing the manual head a
couple of times, always under the worst of circumstances because there
is no good time for a broken head, they would go electric also.

In order to get a reliable manual head you have to go with something
like the "Baby Blake" which costs a King's ransom. It took me a while
to capitulate also but I would never go back, and neither will anyone
else that I know who has made the switch (no pun intended).

http://www.blakes-lavac-taylors.co.uk/blakes_baby.htm

The only thing better than a boat with an electric head is a boat with
two of them.

Roger Long wrote:

My boating tastes are a little too Amish like for that. I can't
believe I have a boat with hot and cold running water and am using a
GPS. One of my ambitions when I was young was to have a boat without
a single piece of electric wire in it, hand start diesel, kerosene
lamps. Well, maybe a flashlight but that wire would only run from the
back of the case to the bulb. Wood, of course, but that's something
else that has faded away with my youth.



When I lived in West Virginia in the 80s there was a hippy dude and his
family nearby who had built a house in the middle of the boonies
(everything in West Virginia is in the middle of the boonies) without
any gas or electric powered tools. I walked through it. It was a very
small two story structure, but still impressive, especially when you
include the area he had cleared of trees.

When I met him, though, he and his family had moved into a nearby
Victorian farmhouse that he had bought from the neighbor.

Not saying you should use an electric toilet, but, um surely it is wise
to take advantage of modern advantages.

--
Stephen

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For any proposition there is always some sufficiently narrow
interpretation of its terms, such that it turns out true, and
some sufficiently wide interpretation such that it turns out
false...concept stretching will refute *any* statement, and will
leave no true statement whatsoever.
-- Imre Lakatos

"Roger Long" wrote in newsGTlg.1612$O35.145
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:

mid pumping cycle (let your
imagination run wild).

PU! Good God, Man, CLOSE THE HEAD DOOR! I can smell it way down South!

Oh, wait, there's a drunk ****ing over the side of E-dock......

Belay that.....

I tossed my two Groco EB's a long time ago... kept breaking down. The
shaft would come loose down in the base and they wouldn't pump until it
was completely disassembled, the arm tightened up again, etc. I
replaced them with two Raritan PHII's and they have worked flawlessly
since... the last four years. Great toilets!

Replacement was my first thought even though I knew I could fix it.
Hard to justify this year though in view of spending a lot on the boat
and a light use schedule.

--

Roger Long



"Keith" wrote in message
oups.com...
I tossed my two Groco EB's a long time ago... kept breaking down. The
shaft would come loose down in the base and they wouldn't pump until
it
was completely disassembled, the arm tightened up again, etc. I
replaced them with two Raritan PHII's and they have worked
flawlessly
since... the last four years. Great toilets!