On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:06:35 GMT, "Thomas Wentworth"
wrote:

I don't know MIC ,, but... many of his postings contain links to very
interesting boating web sites. In fact, I have saved many of his postings
so that I don't lose the info..

Thanks...


What I like about usenet discussions. Well sometimes you get good
relevent information on a subject or hobby. Or sometimes you are
entertained. And then there are the trolls

Internet Trolls
People who delight in upsetting other Internet users are known as
'trolls'. This article examines the phenomenon.
members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm - 22k - 19 Jun 2006

Flame Wars and Other Online Arguments
Internet trolls are people who set out to start arguments or otherwise
make people on message boards uncomfortable. They can do this by
posting "flamebait" ...
members.aol.com/intwg/flamewars.htm - 33k -


http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm#WDIM
"Some people — particularly those who have been online for years — are
not upset by trolls and consider them an inevitable hazard of using
the net."

"It would be nice if everybody was so easy-going, but the sad fact is
that trolls do discourage people. Established posters may leave a
message board because of the arguments that trolls ignite, and lurkers
(people who read but do not post) may decide that they do not want to
expose themselves to abuse and thus never get involved."

"The Internet is a wonderful resource which is breaking down barriers
and stripping away prejudice. Trolls threaten our continued enjoyment
of this beautiful forum for ideas."

" What Can be Done about Trolls?

When you suspect that somebody is a troll, you might try responding
with a polite, mild message to see if it's just somebody in a bad
mood. Internet users sometimes let their passions get away from them
when seated safely behind their keyboard. If you ignore their bluster
and respond in a pleasant manner, they usually calm down.

However, if the person persists in being beastly, and seems to enjoy
being unpleasant, the only effective position is summed up as follows:

The only way to deal with trolls is to limit your reaction to
reminding others not to respond to trolls.

When you try to reason with a troll, he wins. When you insult a troll,
he wins. When you scream at a troll, he wins. The only thing that
trolls can't handle is being ignored."

http://members.aol.com/intwg/guide.htm
"The Internet Writing Guide takes about ten minutes to read."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
"For many people, the characterising feature of trolling is the
perception of intent to disrupt a community in some way. Inflammatory,
sarcastic, disruptive or humorous content is posted, meant to draw
other users into engaging the troll in a fruitless confrontation. The
greater the reaction from the community the more likely the user is to
troll again, as the person develops beliefs that certain actions
achieve his/her goal to cause chaos. This gives rise to the often
repeated protocol in Internet cultu "Do not feed the trolls."

Suggested links for trolls:
http://www.boatdating.com/

Bascially I usually limit my participation on use net to URL's that
are of interest to me relating to boating. And by no means do I think
that it is significant but if it contributes to the hobby-sport and
some find it useful then, great.

I guess I could try and be entertaining in a response but according to
the info. on trolls, which is great advice and not just for usenet, it
will just remain as above.

Coffee filter keep the grinds out of the beveridge, similar technology
exists for trolls, phew.....

Fair winds, Mic 67

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:36:41 GMT, (Mic) wrote:

What I like about usenet discussions. Well sometimes you get good
relevent information on a subject or hobby. Or sometimes you are
entertained. And then there are the trolls

Tom is not a troll. :-)

He is a genuine newbie boater who does not have the experience to
filter out bad advice.

Hey Wayne,,, that is funny.. my first sailboat was a Pearson Commander built
in 1964 ..

Let's see ,,, I owned her back in ??????? 1976. Ooops, I just forgot,,, I
owned another boat before her..


Guess I am a newbee..

How many years of boating must one complete to be an "oldbee"?


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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:36:41 GMT, (Mic) wrote:

What I like about usenet discussions. Well sometimes you get good
relevent information on a subject or hobby. Or sometimes you are
entertained. And then there are the trolls

Tom is not a troll. :-)

He is a genuine newbie boater who does not have the experience to
filter out bad advice.

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:10:40 GMT, "Thomas Wentworth"
wrote:

Hey Wayne,,, that is funny.. my first sailboat was a Pearson Commander built
in 1964 ..

Let's see ,,, I owned her back in ??????? 1976. Ooops, I just forgot,,, I
owned another boat before her..

My first was a Hackercraft triple cockpit speed boat built in 1920 as
close as we could tell. Bought it in 1967, and was similar to this
one although a lot older and a few feet shorter:

http://www.carolina-classic-boats.co...sp?boat_id=123

I thought I was experienced when I bought it but that myth was quickly
dispelled.

Wayne.B wrote in
:

My first was a Hackercraft triple cockpit speed boat built in 1920 as
close as we could tell. Bought it in 1967, and was similar to this
one although a lot older and a few feet shorter:



How beautiful! I rode a new one at one of our in-the-water boatshows in
Charleston. I couldn't believe they just let them sit in the seawater salt
all day!

I did tell the guy I thought it unfair that he bought the Hackercraft slips
right next to the.....the.....BAYLINERS!....hee hee. I waited until the
bigwig from Brunswick was within earshot before I said it...(c;

There weren't any staples or pop rivets holding the Hackercrafts
together....

"Thomas Wentworth" wrote in message
news:AYfmg.14026$XJ4.7976@trndny02...
Hey Wayne,,, that is funny.. my first sailboat was a Pearson Commander
built in 1964 ..

Let's see ,,, I owned her back in ??????? 1976. Ooops, I just forgot,,,
I owned another boat before her..


Guess I am a newbee..

How many years of boating must one complete to be an "oldbee"?

If you have to ask, you'll never know... :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Thomas Wentworth wrote:
Hey Wayne,,, that is funny.. my first sailboat was a Pearson Commander built
in 1964 ..

Let's see ,,, I owned her back in ??????? 1976. Ooops, I just forgot,,, I
owned another boat before her..


Guess I am a newbee..

How many years of boating must one complete to be an "oldbee"?


It's not a question of how many years of boating.

FWIW I like Mic's link posts too.

DSK

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:38:00 -0400, DSK wrote:

FWIW I like Mic's link posts too.

Fair enough but I know that you have the experience to filter out the
wheat from the chaff. There are others here who do not.

FWIW I like Mic's link posts too.


Wayne.B wrote:
Fair enough but I know that you have the experience to filter out the
wheat from the chaff. There are others here who do not.


That's where the "discussion" part comes in. There are a lot
of pretty knowledgeable & experienced sailors & cruisers
here, and yet they don't agree all the time... strange world!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

(Mic) wrote in :

Fair winds, Mic 67


Mic my apologies for mistaking you. I just looked like a spam to me.