By far, the best and approved method for a boat about the size I
recall Tom talking about is a piece of paper about 3" x 5" properly
printed by a bank with about $2,500 written on it

As most of you know, I'm a real do-it-yourselfer but some things just
aren't worth it.

--

Roger Long



"Thomas Wentworth" wrote in message
news:7tcWf.1303$ZJ.181@trndny04...
I looked at a boat this past weekend. There must have been twenty
layers of bottom paint. It was so thick, ....

I'm thinking ??? ,, how on earth does one get this bottom paint
off. Sanding will do the trick but I would think it might take a
month.

What is the prefered method of bottom paint removal? What tools to
use? Is there a bottom paint removal substance?

After the bottom paint is removed, right down to the bare gelcoat
... about August 1st .. joke there ..

After the bottom paint is removed,, what should be done? Put a thin
coat back on? Put on a coat of the sealer stuff?

Bottom paint doctors wanted ,, calling doctor Scrape, Sand, and
Remove ,, calling doctor Scrape, Sand and Remove ...

Roger Long wrote:
By far, the best and approved method for a boat about the size I
recall Tom talking about is a piece of paper about 3" x 5" properly
printed by a bank with about $2,500 written on it

As most of you know, I'm a real do-it-yourselfer but some things just
aren't worth it.


"Thomas Wentworth" wrote in message
news:7tcWf.1303$ZJ.181@trndny04...
I looked at a boat this past weekend. There must have been twenty
layers of bottom paint. It was so thick, ....

I'm thinking ??? ,, how on earth does one get this bottom paint
off. Sanding will do the trick but I would think it might take a
month.

What is the prefered method of bottom paint removal? What tools to
use? Is there a bottom paint removal substance?

After the bottom paint is removed, right down to the bare gelcoat
... about August 1st .. joke there ..

After the bottom paint is removed,, what should be done? Put a thin
coat back on? Put on a coat of the sealer stuff?

Bottom paint doctors wanted ,, calling doctor Scrape, Sand, and
Remove ,, calling doctor Scrape, Sand and Remove ...

Two of us removed the 10 years of accumulated antifouling from a
fifty-footer in January 2000. It took about 6 weeks, working at weekends
only.

I am still suffering from the muscle wrenching after-effects of the work.

Take Roger's advice and apply for a loan!


Dennis.

Dear Roger ,,, please send me the piece of paper with the $2,500 on it.
Address it T Wentworth, bottom paint job.

Make sure to sign it, and have it show the name of your bank nice a clear.

Thanks, for your help.

======================
"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
By far, the best and approved method for a boat about the size I recall
Tom talking about is a piece of paper about 3" x 5" properly printed by a
bank with about $2,500 written on it

As most of you know, I'm a real do-it-yourselfer but some things just
aren't worth it.

--

Roger Long



"Thomas Wentworth" wrote in message
news:7tcWf.1303$ZJ.181@trndny04...
I looked at a boat this past weekend. There must have been twenty layers
of bottom paint. It was so thick, ....

I'm thinking ??? ,, how on earth does one get this bottom paint off.
Sanding will do the trick but I would think it might take a month.

What is the prefered method of bottom paint removal? What tools to use?
Is there a bottom paint removal substance?

After the bottom paint is removed, right down to the bare gelcoat ...
about August 1st .. joke there ..

After the bottom paint is removed,, what should be done? Put a thin coat
back on? Put on a coat of the sealer stuff?

Bottom paint doctors wanted ,, calling doctor Scrape, Sand, and Remove ,,
calling doctor Scrape, Sand and Remove ...

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:42:19 GMT, "Thomas Wentworth"
wrote:

Dear Roger ,,, please send me the piece of paper with the $2,500 on it.
Address it T Wentworth, bottom paint job.

Make sure to sign it, and have it show the name of your bank nice a clear.

Thanks, for your help.

======================

I've done the job myself several times on sailboats in the 28 to 34 ft
range, once using a professional quality auto body grinder with a 7
inch disk/60 grit paper, and once using chemical stripper. Either way
it is a tough, dirty and hazardous job. Older, wiser and quite
possibly with damaged lungs, I'd give Roger's advice some serious
thought.

You may think I was trying to be a smart ass instead of helpful but,
trust me, whatever other method you used doing it yourself, you would
quickly conclude that I was being immensely helpful.

This might be more helpful. It the stuff isn't flaking off, just slap
another coat on and figure it out next year. Think of it as ballast.
Smaller boats have gone around the world with sheets of copper tacked
over the bottom with felt underneath. I little extra hull thickness
isn't going to hurt anything for cruising and nobody's going to see
it.

If it is flaking off, just knock of the loose stuff with a scraper and
have at it with the paint rollers.

--

Roger Long



"Thomas Wentworth" wrote in message
news:fsfWf.1925$Q9.861@trndny07...
Dear Roger ,,, please send me the piece of paper with the $2,500 on
it. Address it T Wentworth, bottom paint job.

Make sure to sign it, and have it show the name of your bank nice a
clear.

Thanks, for your help.

======================
"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
By far, the best and approved method for a boat about the size I
recall Tom talking about is a piece of paper about 3" x 5" properly
printed by a bank with about $2,500 written on it

As most of you know, I'm a real do-it-yourselfer but some things
just aren't worth it.

--

Roger Long



"Thomas Wentworth" wrote in message
news:7tcWf.1303$ZJ.181@trndny04...
I looked at a boat this past weekend. There must have been twenty
layers of bottom paint. It was so thick, ....

I'm thinking ??? ,, how on earth does one get this bottom paint
off. Sanding will do the trick but I would think it might take a
month.

What is the prefered method of bottom paint removal? What tools
to use? Is there a bottom paint removal substance?

After the bottom paint is removed, right down to the bare gelcoat
... about August 1st .. joke there ..

After the bottom paint is removed,, what should be done? Put a
thin coat back on? Put on a coat of the sealer stuff?

Bottom paint doctors wanted ,, calling doctor Scrape, Sand, and
Remove ,, calling doctor Scrape, Sand and Remove ...

In article ,
says...


You may think I was trying to be a smart ass instead of helpful but,
trust me, whatever other method you used doing it yourself, you would
quickly conclude that I was being immensely helpful.

This might be more helpful. It the stuff isn't flaking off, just slap
another coat on and figure it out next year. Think of it as ballast.
Smaller boats have gone around the world with sheets of copper tacked
over the bottom with felt underneath. I little extra hull thickness
isn't going to hurt anything for cruising and nobody's going to see
it.

If it is flaking off, just knock of the loose stuff with a scraper and
have at it with the paint rollers.

Super excellent advice. I took a 26 footer down to the gelcoat once and
followed up with a barrier coat and abalative bottom paint. Never, ever
again. I was contemplating doing the same to our 37-footer, but, upon
examining the bottom on haulout, decided as you have suggested. Knock
off what's about to fall off and roll on a new coat. I am so pleased to
have my decision validated by so many knowledgable people.

In article ,
"Roger Long" wrote:

You may think I was trying to be a smart ass instead of helpful but,
trust me, whatever other method you used doing it yourself, you would
quickly conclude that I was being immensely helpful.

This might be more helpful. It the stuff isn't flaking off, just slap
another coat on and figure it out next year. Think of it as ballast.
Smaller boats have gone around the world with sheets of copper tacked
over the bottom with felt underneath. I little extra hull thickness
isn't going to hurt anything for cruising and nobody's going to see
it.

If it is flaking off, just knock of the loose stuff with a scraper and
have at it with the paint rollers.

--

Roger Long

I'm in full agreement with Roger. At most, I might sand the rougher
spots smoother. It's been there for a while, and probably has some
protective properties left. (Despite the manufacturer's instructions, I
got 3 years out of hard bottom paint that was dry 4-6 months a year.)

That said, when we got Xan a decade ago, we got into a deal with a
sandblasting guy who was going to be in the yard anyway. Any time that
winter/spring, didn't have to be perfect. Time and materials cost was
about $500. Gel got a little pocked, but nothing to worry about.

If I had to do it myself, friends swear by the carbide scraper.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Thomas Wentworth wrote:

Dear Roger ,,, please send me the piece of paper with the $2,500 on it.
Address it T Wentworth, bottom paint job.

Make sure to sign it, and have it show the name of your bank nice a clear.

Thanks, for your help.

======================
"Roger Long" wrote in message
...

By far, the best and approved method for a boat about the size I recall
Tom talking about is a piece of paper about 3" x 5" properly printed by a
bank with about $2,500 written on it

As most of you know, I'm a real do-it-yourselfer but some things just
aren't worth it.

--

Roger Long



"Thomas Wentworth" wrote in message
news:7tcWf.1303$ZJ.181@trndny04...

I looked at a boat this past weekend. There must have been twenty layers
of bottom paint. It was so thick, ....

I'm thinking ??? ,, how on earth does one get this bottom paint off.
Sanding will do the trick but I would think it might take a month.

What is the prefered method of bottom paint removal? What tools to use?
Is there a bottom paint removal substance?

After the bottom paint is removed, right down to the bare gelcoat ...
about August 1st .. joke there ..

After the bottom paint is removed,, what should be done? Put a thin coat
back on? Put on a coat of the sealer stuff?

Bottom paint doctors wanted ,, calling doctor Scrape, Sand, and Remove ,,
calling doctor Scrape, Sand and Remove ...

Well, so far I don't see anything in the thread better than the method I
last used, two guys with sharpened (and resharpened and resharpened...)
3/4 inch chisels scraping their brains out. It took us about three long
days to do a 33ft sailboat.

I don't think it was twenty layers, but it was pretty thick and very
hard work. Two teens we tried to hire to help couldn't hack it. They
couldn't figure out how to scrape off the paint in any reasonable amount
of time.

--
Stephen

-------

For any proposition there is always some sufficiently narrow
interpretation of its terms, such that it turns out true, and
some sufficiently wide interpretation such that it turns out
false...concept stretching will refute *any* statement, and will
leave no true statement whatsoever.
-- Imre Lakatos

Stephen Trapani wrote:

Thomas Wentworth wrote:

Dear Roger ,,, please send me the piece of paper with the $2,500 on
it. Address it T Wentworth, bottom paint job.

Make sure to sign it, and have it show the name of your bank nice a
clear.

Thanks, for your help.

======================
"Roger Long" wrote in message
...

By far, the best and approved method for a boat about the size I
recall Tom talking about is a piece of paper about 3" x 5" properly
printed by a bank with about $2,500 written on it

As most of you know, I'm a real do-it-yourselfer but some things just
aren't worth it.

--

Roger Long



"Thomas Wentworth" wrote in message
news:7tcWf.1303$ZJ.181@trndny04...

I looked at a boat this past weekend. There must have been twenty
layers of bottom paint. It was so thick, ....

I'm thinking ??? ,, how on earth does one get this bottom paint
off. Sanding will do the trick but I would think it might take a month.

What is the prefered method of bottom paint removal? What tools to
use? Is there a bottom paint removal substance?

After the bottom paint is removed, right down to the bare gelcoat
... about August 1st .. joke there ..

After the bottom paint is removed,, what should be done? Put a thin
coat back on? Put on a coat of the sealer stuff?

Bottom paint doctors wanted ,, calling doctor Scrape, Sand, and
Remove ,, calling doctor Scrape, Sand and Remove ...


Well, so far I don't see anything in the thread better than the method I
last used, two guys with sharpened (and resharpened and resharpened...)
3/4 inch chisels scraping their brains out. It took us about three long
days to do a 33ft sailboat.

I don't think it was twenty layers, but it was pretty thick and very
hard work. Two teens we tried to hire to help couldn't hack it. They
couldn't figure out how to scrape off the paint in any reasonable amount
of time.

Actually, I just saw a better method, if you will. Don't scrape it off.
Take off the loose stuff and paint over it.


--
Stephen

-------

For any proposition there is always some sufficiently narrow
interpretation of its terms, such that it turns out true, and
some sufficiently wide interpretation such that it turns out
false...concept stretching will refute *any* statement, and will
leave no true statement whatsoever.
-- Imre Lakatos

Stephen Trapani wrote:

Well, so far I don't see anything in the thread better than the method I
last used, two guys with sharpened (and resharpened and resharpened...)
3/4 inch chisels scraping their brains out. It took us about three long
days to do a 33ft sailboat.

How did you avoid gouging the ****e out of the gelcoat?