Roger Long wrote:
I went to check our boat today. It was 50 degrees here on the coast of
Maine. That should make anyone who ever spent a winter in this part of
the world believe in global warming.


I'm a global warming believer (duh), but this insanely mild winter
we're having so far here in the northeast (I'm in Long Island, temps in
the 50's yesterday, today, tomorrow) is actually
kind of contradictory to most of the global warming theory I've heard,
which suggests that the result will be colder winters here in the
short-term (basically from the cold water from melting glaciers being
added into the ocean streams, that's my very simplistic understanding).
Of course short-term and anecdotal weather patterns and occurrences
don't have anything much to do with the big picture either way.

richforman

When I winterized the boat, I pumped three gallons of antifreeze into
the bilge by turning the wrong valve and then forgot to pump it out.
When I looked in today, there were clumps of white crust floating
around on top of it that turned out to be ice.

What's going on here? The bilge was pretty dry last fall so it isn't
diluted and I can see that no water has been getting into the boat by
the level. I sure hope it isn't freezing in the engine.

--

Roger Long

Yes, I bump into a lot of physical oceanographers in my business and
they tell me that ice ages are actually global warming events.

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Roger Long



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Roger Long wrote:
I went to check our boat today. It was 50 degrees here on the coast
of
Maine. That should make anyone who ever spent a winter in this part
of
the world believe in global warming.


I'm a global warming believer (duh), but this insanely mild winter
we're having so far here in the northeast (I'm in Long Island, temps
in
the 50's yesterday, today, tomorrow) is actually
kind of contradictory to most of the global warming theory I've
heard,
which suggests that the result will be colder winters here in the
short-term (basically from the cold water from melting glaciers
being
added into the ocean streams, that's my very simplistic
understanding).
Of course short-term and anecdotal weather patterns and occurrences
don't have anything much to do with the big picture either way.

richforman

When I winterized the boat, I pumped three gallons of antifreeze
into
the bilge by turning the wrong valve and then forgot to pump it
out.
When I looked in today, there were clumps of white crust floating
around on top of it that turned out to be ice.

What's going on here? The bilge was pretty dry last fall so it
isn't
diluted and I can see that no water has been getting into the boat
by
the level. I sure hope it isn't freezing in the engine.

--

Roger Long

And there were no suv's and powerplants and factories before the last
ice age...

markvictor wrote:
And there were no suv's and powerplants and factories before the last
ice age...

and Thank-You, wise Sir Bedevere for _your_ insightful observations

No, but the rational for limiting greenhouse gasses in what history
now shows us to be a very chaotic and unstable atmosphere subject to
sudden dramatic changes is similar to not smoking in a room full of
open gas cans. Your cigarette may not set them off and they may go
off by themselves but, why risk it?

--

Roger Long



"markvictor" wrote in message
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And there were no suv's and powerplants and factories before the
last
ice age...

Now if only you could stop volcanos from erupting....

Now thats like saying that one should stop swallowing because salive
'may' cause cancer. g

In article , Roger Long
wrote:

No, but the rational for limiting greenhouse gasses in what history
now shows us to be a very chaotic and unstable atmosphere subject to
sudden dramatic changes is similar to not smoking in a room full of
open gas cans. Your cigarette may not set them off and they may go
off by themselves but, why risk it?

I labelled this post "somewhat OT" because as the oceans
become toxic gunk our sailing becomes less & less enjoyable.
And increased hurricanes make our insurance premiums go up.

No, but the rational for limiting greenhouse gasses in what history
now shows us to be a very chaotic and unstable atmosphere subject to
sudden dramatic changes is similar to not smoking in a room full of
open gas cans. Your cigarette may not set them off and they may go
off by themselves but, why risk it?


Rich Hampel wrote:
Now thats like saying that one should stop swallowing because salive
'may' cause cancer. g

Umm, no.

It's like saying you shouldn't make bad situation worse.

Dave's statement about "costs" is just plain stupid... can
you breathe & drink money?

I will never understand how the attitude that we should go
ahead and screw up the environment just because there's
still some left became "conservative."

Regards
Doug King

I will never understand how the attitude that we should go ahead and
screw up the environment just because there's still some left became
"conservative."

Yes, wouldn't it be nice (and an utter surprise in today's political
climate) if the "conservatives" actually wanted to conserve something?

--

Roger Long