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Antifreeze?
50% ethylene glycol and 50% water will take you down to -20degrees F.
100% antifreeze 'probably' (no guarantee) wont harm the block because just about all substances on earth get smaller when they get colder. Water is an exception however and becomes less dense and 'larger' at near its freezing point; hence, the need to add antifreeze, ..... the getting 'larger' produces the pressure to break castings, etc. Incidentally ---- If water didnt have this 'little quirk' property, all the ice in the ocean would fall to bottom of the ocean, never thaw, and the highest ocean temperature in mid summer (thawed surface ice) would be only 4 degrees Celsius .... and there wouldnt be much life on earth. Be very thankful that frozen water floats. Looks like you should drain the antifreeze, add water (the mix ratios are usually listed on the side of the container) and reinstall.to be absolutely safe. In article , Roger Long wrote: "Rich Hampel" wrote in 100% antifreeze will freeze as solid as a brick. Yikes! Will it freeze hard enough to crack an engine block or is it just like salt water slush? The yard service manager who told me how to winterize the engine didn't say anything about mixing it with water. |
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Antifreeze?
****. That would be a huge project at this point. Getting a diesel
going in the temperatures we'll have by the day after tomorrow is no joke. The batteries are in the shop, there is ice all around the boat. Uhg. This is a two cylinder raw water cooled diesel BTW. I knew you had to mix antifreeze for cooling systems but I thought that was for proper heat transfer. The idea that it freeze never occurred to me. This stuff (non-tox with corrosion inhibitors; not RV anti-freeze) is just in there to winterize the engine. Freezing solid won't hurt anything unless it expands. -- Roger Long |
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Antifreeze?
Roger Long wrote:
****. Took the word right out of my mouth. This is _not_ good news for me. WHy the effing hell did I not know this? |
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Antifreeze?
I checked with the boat yard this morning. It was Panol that they
sold me. They use it straight for winterization only. It may freeze into a slush but won't expand and isn't a problem for a system that isn't running so that it has to pump the stuff around. The straight RV stuff , without corrosion inhibitors, says "No Mixing Required" right on the bottle. -- Roger Long "Rich Hampel" wrote in message ... 50% ethylene glycol and 50% water will take you down to -20degrees F. 100% antifreeze 'probably' (no guarantee) wont harm the block because just about all substances on earth get smaller when they get colder. Water is an exception however and becomes less dense and 'larger' at near its freezing point; hence, the need to add antifreeze, ..... the getting 'larger' produces the pressure to break castings, etc. Incidentally ---- If water didnt have this 'little quirk' property, all the ice in the ocean would fall to bottom of the ocean, never thaw, and the highest ocean temperature in mid summer (thawed surface ice) would be only 4 degrees Celsius .... and there wouldnt be much life on earth. Be very thankful that frozen water floats. Looks like you should drain the antifreeze, add water (the mix ratios are usually listed on the side of the container) and reinstall.to be absolutely safe. In article , Roger Long wrote: "Rich Hampel" wrote in 100% antifreeze will freeze as solid as a brick. Yikes! Will it freeze hard enough to crack an engine block or is it just like salt water slush? The yard service manager who told me how to winterize the engine didn't say anything about mixing it with water. |
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Antifreeze?
"The straight RV stuff"...are you talking about the red -non toxic
fluid for winterizing the potabke water system?... That isn't designed for your engine, it's for your plumbing... If not, and you're referring to a glycol based anti-freeze, the reason no mixing is required is that you are buying a jug of 50% water....it's a lot cheaper to buy it undiluted and add your own water....I know you already have done your winterization, I'm just pointing out the difference.... regards, markvictor http://groups.google.com/group/badboatbiz |
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