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Danny wrote:
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Danny,

Unfortunatly I am periously close to Poopie (love the spelling.) Last
year I bought a bunch of land in Nova Scotia, a 20 year old 33' custom
steel cutter, and moved one to the other. Never sailed before but lots
of time on stink pots. Anyway I got there, after about a week. A
little over 400 miles, on the chart.

I think you are right that he is trolling for amusement. But it IS
amusing. Not only his posts but the dead serious answers intermixed
with the others who have "outed" him.

And, you gotta admit, he must have the hide of a rhino. Or is it
brain. Either way, for now he does make me laugh, if only at myself.

Howard



Howard:

You and I are tracking. It is indeed amusing and the answers have been
informative. It's a good group.

How's the sailing in NS in the winter? My brother in-law lives in Portland,
Maine. The combination of the ridiculous fog and the rocky shore make the
case for your steel hull.
Danny


I am enjoying the banter. I find it enlightening that folks can
absolutely confidently say things that are so wrong. I wonder if they
are embarrassed when caught or if it is always a troll.

Gaz
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"Gary" wrote in message
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Danny wrote:
wrote in message
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Danny,

Unfortunatly I am periously close to Poopie (love the spelling.) Last
year I bought a bunch of land in Nova Scotia, a 20 year old 33' custom
steel cutter, and moved one to the other. Never sailed before but lots
of time on stink pots. Anyway I got there, after about a week. A
little over 400 miles, on the chart.

I think you are right that he is trolling for amusement. But it IS
amusing. Not only his posts but the dead serious answers intermixed
with the others who have "outed" him.

And, you gotta admit, he must have the hide of a rhino. Or is it
brain. Either way, for now he does make me laugh, if only at myself.

Howard



Howard:

You and I are tracking. It is indeed amusing and the answers have been
informative. It's a good group.

How's the sailing in NS in the winter? My brother in-law lives in
Portland, Maine. The combination of the ridiculous fog and the rocky
shore make the case for your steel hull.
Danny


I am enjoying the banter. I find it enlightening that folks can
absolutely confidently say things that are so wrong. I wonder if they are
embarrassed when caught or if it is always a troll.

Gaz


I have to admit, Poopie is far and away the best troll I've seen. If he is a
troll.
If he's serious, he needs to take up something safer like Motocross. Some of
the advice has been awful and ill informed. But there are some gems. When
I'm flummoxed, I ask the older salts in my club because I can see the
position of their tongue when they answer.
Poopie asks lamo questions in a way that stimulates good dialog. As Howard
pointed out, Poopie has the hide of a Rhino! He comes back for more and with
more. Most trolls just sling meaningless threats, insults and non sense.
I've learned a few things reading the serious replies.


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Danny,

I wish I knew how the sailing was. I live in Philadelphia and my wife
said I had to keep my mistress at a fair distance. Thus she sits on
the hard in Sydney, NS.

But this summer, I get a month off, 200 miles to St. Pierre and
Bastille Day, then back along the south coast of Newfoundland. If my
steel hull "thwangs" when I bump you may hear me unaided where you
live.

I can attest to the fog in SE Nova Scotia. I could see the variations
in fog density in an arms length and one evening I litteraly saw the
shadow of my sails on the edge of a fog bank. I throughly under
estimated the variation in temperature. Several tmes, within an hour,
I went from shorts to full fleece and gear to shorts. I was lucky to
stay dry for I didn't bring half enough warm clothes had things gone
south.

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I'm waiting for Robert Harris, the designer of the Tayana
Vancouver 460, to explain to me why I shouldn't be too
concerned about the stability of this boat and will let you
know what he has to say.

If you still think I'm a troll just call the Tayana and Beneteau
dealers in San Diego and ask if Popeye has come to see them.
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In article ,
"Danny" wrote:

First and foremost, he asks total strangers for advice!


By in large, the total strangers on this list are more knowledgeable
and honest than his friends at the dock -- because many of us aren't AT
the dock.

Most if the times I hear our dock gurus speak, I snicker.

Yes, there is a wide range of opinions and that's a good thing. There's
rarely one right answer, only a continuum of trade-offs.

Yes, there are some on the list that should be ignored, but they're
easily discovered to be the ones who flame rather than debate.


--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
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I'm waiting for Robert Harris, the designer of the Tayana
Vancouver 460, to explain to me why I shouldn't be too
concerned about the stability of this boat and will let you
know what he has to say.

If you still think I'm a troll just call the Tayana and Beneteau
dealers in San Diego and ask if Popeye has come to see them.


You've got heart and grit Popeye. I suspect you'll do fine. Keep at it.


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Danny wrote:
"Gary" wrote in message
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Danny wrote:

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Danny,

Unfortunatly I am periously close to Poopie (love the spelling.) Last
year I bought a bunch of land in Nova Scotia, a 20 year old 33' custom
steel cutter, and moved one to the other. Never sailed before but lots
of time on stink pots. Anyway I got there, after about a week. A
little over 400 miles, on the chart.

I think you are right that he is trolling for amusement. But it IS
amusing. Not only his posts but the dead serious answers intermixed
with the others who have "outed" him.

And, you gotta admit, he must have the hide of a rhino. Or is it
brain. Either way, for now he does make me laugh, if only at myself.

Howard


Howard:

You and I are tracking. It is indeed amusing and the answers have been
informative. It's a good group.

How's the sailing in NS in the winter? My brother in-law lives in
Portland, Maine. The combination of the ridiculous fog and the rocky
shore make the case for your steel hull.
Danny



I am enjoying the banter. I find it enlightening that folks can
absolutely confidently say things that are so wrong. I wonder if they are
embarrassed when caught or if it is always a troll.

Gaz



I have to admit, Poopie is far and away the best troll I've seen. If he is a
troll.
If he's serious, he needs to take up something safer like Motocross. Some of
the advice has been awful and ill informed. But there are some gems. When
I'm flummoxed, I ask the older salts in my club because I can see the
position of their tongue when they answer.
Poopie asks lamo questions in a way that stimulates good dialog. As Howard
pointed out, Poopie has the hide of a Rhino! He comes back for more and with
more. Most trolls just sling meaningless threats, insults and non sense.
I've learned a few things reading the serious replies.


I think he is genuinely soliciting advice.
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Hmmm... ok.. yeh. i have to admit. I have left a lot this guys posts alone
as there seems to be a Trolling warning on every post he makes.

DP
"MMC" wrote in message
...
Apparently you haven't been following. This guy has bought Thailand and is
in no hurry to get there.
"d parker" wrote in message
...
Does it matter? Are you actually planning on sailing out of the bay or
river you live on? Most yacht owners day sail or spend a week in
sheltered
bays and never put to sea. My guess is you will be doing the same. All

that
is left is Rhetoric.

DP
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k.net...

TAYANA VANCOUVER 460 PILOT
Angle of vanishing stability = 110 degrees
Ballast/displacement = 0.24
Capsize screening ratio = 1.57

BENETEAU 473
Angle of vanishing stability = 119 degrees
Ballast/displacement = 0.34
Capsize screening ratio = 1.96

CATALINA 42 MARK II
Angle of vanishing stability = 105 degrees
Ballast/displacement = 0.39
Capsize screening ratio = 1.97







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I think he is genuinely soliciting advice.

I have been wondering about this person and just how much
experience he has. If he is just looking for a live aboard in
Thailand, why not buy some roomy dock queen and have it shipped
to one of the ports in the Gulf of Siam or Andaman sea and the
move it to where the dock or mooring chains are located. I don't
believe he could make the trip under sail no matter which boat
he bought.

Leanne


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Right, sounds like he can't keep track of his stories as he's now talking
about not crossing an ocean in the new yacht.
"d parker" wrote in message
...
Hmmm... ok.. yeh. i have to admit. I have left a lot this guys posts alone
as there seems to be a Trolling warning on every post he makes.

DP
"MMC" wrote in message
...
Apparently you haven't been following. This guy has bought Thailand and

is
in no hurry to get there.
"d parker" wrote in message
...
Does it matter? Are you actually planning on sailing out of the bay or
river you live on? Most yacht owners day sail or spend a week in
sheltered
bays and never put to sea. My guess is you will be doing the same. All

that
is left is Rhetoric.

DP
wrote in message
k.net...

TAYANA VANCOUVER 460 PILOT
Angle of vanishing stability = 110 degrees
Ballast/displacement = 0.24
Capsize screening ratio = 1.57

BENETEAU 473
Angle of vanishing stability = 119 degrees
Ballast/displacement = 0.34
Capsize screening ratio = 1.96

CATALINA 42 MARK II
Angle of vanishing stability = 105 degrees
Ballast/displacement = 0.39
Capsize screening ratio = 1.97








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