On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 01:57:27 GMT, Gary wrote:

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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:09:25 GMT, Gary wrote:




______________________________________________ ____
Jack Dale
ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor
CYA Advanced Cruising Instructor
Director, Swiftsure Sailing Academy
http://www.swiftsuresailing.com
______________________________________________ ____

That was the Vic-Maui that my predecessor won in Oriole. The wind going
was great that year as I understand it.
Did you do the race? (I didn't)


Did not do the race - just a 21 day and 90 minute delivery from
Honolulu to Port Renfrew.

I would like to do the race. Last year I turned down an position as
an instructor on the Van Isle 360.

I've done the last two Van-Isle 360s. It is a great race but it has
been discovered and the sleds and rock stars are showing up now. It
really is a great idea for a race, like the Tour de France, yacht style.

What boat wanted you?

Evolution

I have used her for cruise and learns on several occassions. I also
crewed on her during Swiftsure 2004 (mainly rail meat).

wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 01:57:27 GMT, Gary wrote:


wrote:

On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:09:25 GMT, Gary wrote:





_____________________________________________ _____
Jack Dale
ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor
CYA Advanced Cruising Instructor
Director, Swiftsure Sailing Academy
http://www.swiftsuresailing.com
_____________________________________________ _____

That was the Vic-Maui that my predecessor won in Oriole. The wind going
was great that year as I understand it.
Did you do the race? (I didn't)


Did not do the race - just a 21 day and 90 minute delivery from
Honolulu to Port Renfrew.

I would like to do the race. Last year I turned down an position as
an instructor on the Van Isle 360.

I've done the last two Van-Isle 360s. It is a great race but it has
been discovered and the sleds and rock stars are showing up now. It
really is a great idea for a race, like the Tour de France, yacht style.

What boat wanted you?


Evolution

I have used her for cruise and learns on several occassions. I also
crewed on her during Swiftsure 2004 (mainly rail meat).
I've raced against her many times.

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We knew it was an anomalie. The high had moved very close to the coast
in an unusual pattern. There was wind all around us. What made us
miserable was that our wives were in Hawaii and waiting for us. We were
so late getting there that they had all flown home. The trip that normal
takes 12 - 15 days took us 21! We ran out of food at 18 and we were
reduced to slim fixin's.


Were you starting to worry or did knowing that you could call for help
keep the idea of starving to death in check?
No worry, we had stuff to eat but no real food. We had a big bag of flour
and lots of jam and peanut butter. We just had no meat, rice, bread or
any of the normal stuff.

Seems like fresh fish would also be an option.

--AG

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We knew it was an anomalie. The high had moved very close to the coast
in an unusual pattern. There was wind all around us. What made us
miserable was that our wives were in Hawaii and waiting for us. We were
so late getting there that they had all flown home. The trip that normal
takes 12 - 15 days took us 21! We ran out of food at 18 and we were
reduced to slim fixin's.


Were you starting to worry or did knowing that you could call for help
keep the idea of starving to death in check?

No worry, we had stuff to eat but no real food. We had a big bag of flour
and lots of jam and peanut butter. We just had no meat, rice, bread or
any of the normal stuff.


Seems like fresh fish would also be an option.

--AG


We had no fishing gear and our homemade stuff was unsuccessful. We
certainly had gear (and fish) on the way home.

no fishing gear on a boat .... ??


"We had no fishing gear"......

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We knew it was an anomalie. The high had moved very close to the coast
in an unusual pattern. There was wind all around us. What made us
miserable was that our wives were in Hawaii and waiting for us. We were
so late getting there that they had all flown home. The trip that
normal takes 12 - 15 days took us 21! We ran out of food at 18 and we
were reduced to slim fixin's.


Were you starting to worry or did knowing that you could call for help
keep the idea of starving to death in check?
No worry, we had stuff to eat but no real food. We had a big bag of
flour and lots of jam and peanut butter. We just had no meat, rice,
bread or any of the normal stuff.

Seems like fresh fish would also be an option.

--AG

As I recall, the stories I've read that included descriptions of dead calms,
seem to have a common theme of an absence of hungry fish in the area as well
the absence of wind.

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We knew it was an anomalie. The high had moved very close to the coast
in an unusual pattern. There was wind all around us. What made us
miserable was that our wives were in Hawaii and waiting for us. We were
so late getting there that they had all flown home. The trip that
normal takes 12 - 15 days took us 21! We ran out of food at 18 and we
were reduced to slim fixin's.


Were you starting to worry or did knowing that you could call for help
keep the idea of starving to death in check?

No worry, we had stuff to eat but no real food. We had a big bag of
flour and lots of jam and peanut butter. We just had no meat, rice,
bread or any of the normal stuff.

Seems like fresh fish would also be an option.

--AG


As I recall, the stories I've read that included descriptions of dead calms,
seem to have a common theme of an absence of hungry fish in the area as well
the absence of wind.


It's hard to troll when you are stopped.

As I recall, the stories I've read that included descriptions of dead
calms,
seem to have a common theme of an absence of hungry fish in the area as
well the absence of wind.

then I guess at least you could go for a swim without having to worry about
the locals

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As I recall, the stories I've read that included descriptions of dead
calms,
seem to have a common theme of an absence of hungry fish in the area as
well the absence of wind.

then I guess at least you could go for a swim without having to worry
about the locals


I was sailing back to Marina Del Rey with my buddy and his current
girlfriend. It was a beautiful day on the water. I asked the girlfriend if
she had ever been for a swim in the middle of the ocean. She said no. I
offered to stop the boat and let her hop in the water for a couple of
minutes. She declined, stating sharks as her reason. I told her there
weren't any sharks around. She still declined. With a shrug of my
shoulders I continued on. 2 minutes later I'm tapping my buddy on the
shoulder and quietly signalling to look over my right shoulder. Yep, a
shark swimming along fully visible. What a laugh (although she didn't think
it was very funny)!

Bryan wrote:

"Nigel" wrote in message
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As I recall, the stories I've read that included descriptions of dead
calms,
seem to have a common theme of an absence of hungry fish in the area as
well the absence of wind.

then I guess at least you could go for a swim without having to worry
about the locals



I was sailing back to Marina Del Rey with my buddy and his current
girlfriend. It was a beautiful day on the water. I asked the girlfriend if
she had ever been for a swim in the middle of the ocean. She said no. I
offered to stop the boat and let her hop in the water for a couple of
minutes. She declined, stating sharks as her reason. I told her there
weren't any sharks around. She still declined. With a shrug of my
shoulders I continued on. 2 minutes later I'm tapping my buddy on the
shoulder and quietly signalling to look over my right shoulder. Yep, a
shark swimming along fully visible. What a laugh (although she didn't think
it was very funny)!

I'm pretty sure sharks are around swimmers on a regular basis, never
seen, never caring about the humans nearby either. In addition, most
professional divers and such swim around sharks regularly with no
problems, both just ignore each other.

Shark attacks on humans almost always occur because an unusual shark
makes an unusual mistake. In other words, sharks around humans in the
water is not that rare, sharks attacking humans is rare.

Having said that I'll also admit I tend to get the heebee jeebeez when
*anything* bigger than me (sea turtles, seals) is nearby while I'm in
the water. Big eels? Big Manta rays? --See ya!




--
Stephen

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interpretation of its terms, such that it turns out true, and
some sufficiently wide interpretation such that it turns out
false...concept stretching will refute *any* statement, and will
leave no true statement whatsoever.
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