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http://www.homepower.com/files/mark8.pdf

Any opinon on this being used as a genset on a sailboat?

An excellent PDF file on building a genset from a 5HP motor and car
alternator.

Including images and schematics of resistive field controller as well
as an electronic field controller version.

Most interesting is:
"Type and Size of Engine
We’ve since tried many different combinations of
engines and alternators. Small gas engines between 3
and 8 horsepower work well. We found that the Honda
small engines will run more than 5,000 hours without
major work, Tecumseh engines about 800 hours, and
Briggs & Stratton engines about 600 hours. The
particular Honda G40 (170 cc, Å4.5 hp) engine pictured
here has run for over 13,000 hours with the same
rings, bearings and valves. The Honda also has the
advantage of a 100 hour oil change interval, compared
with 25 hours for both the Tecumseh and the Briggs &
Stratton. If you consider the operating life and
operating cost of small engines, then the higher quality
engines are much less expensive despite their higher
initial cost. "

Mic
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wouldn't something like this be a lot more practical???

http://cgi.ebay.com/GAS-POWER-PORTAB...QQcmdZViewItem

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on deck maybe

below deck never


"Mic" wrote in message
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http://www.homepower.com/files/mark8.pdf

Any opinon on this being used as a genset on a sailboat?

An excellent PDF file on building a genset from a 5HP motor and car
alternator.

Including images and schematics of resistive field controller as well
as an electronic field controller version.

Most interesting is:
"Type and Size of Engine
We've since tried many different combinations of
engines and alternators. Small gas engines between 3
and 8 horsepower work well. We found that the Honda
small engines will run more than 5,000 hours without
major work, Tecumseh engines about 800 hours, and
Briggs & Stratton engines about 600 hours. The
particular Honda G40 (170 cc, Å4.5 hp) engine pictured
here has run for over 13,000 hours with the same
rings, bearings and valves. The Honda also has the
advantage of a 100 hour oil change interval, compared
with 25 hours for both the Tecumseh and the Briggs &
Stratton. If you consider the operating life and
operating cost of small engines, then the higher quality
engines are much less expensive despite their higher
initial cost. "

Mic



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That makes me wonder. What is the smallest and lightest diesel engine
available?

There used to be some model airplane diesels but I don't mean that
small

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Roger Long




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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:58:14 GMT, "Roger Long"
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That makes me wonder. What is the smallest and lightest diesel engine
available?


http://www.vegburner.co.uk/dieselengine.html

EXCELLENT PAGE^^^^

http://www.vibha.com/diesel.html

http://www.lovson.com/air-cooled-diesel-engines.html

http://www.lovson.com/lister-type-sl...l-engines.html

http://www.lovson.com/peter-type-sh-series-engines.htm

http://www.dieselnet.com/news/1997/08yanmar.php

http://www.usdieselengines.com/6_kw%...rator_open.htm

http://boatdiesel.com/Articles/APage...troduction.cfm

****Out With The Old - Replacing Old Fuel Filtration Technology With
New

http://boatdiesel.com/Articles/APage...troduction.cfm

***Repowering a 34 foot Californian

http://boatdiesel.com/Articles/APage...ion.cfm&Y=2005

Installing Shafts, Logs, Struts and Rudders along w/ your favorite
Engine and Transmission

http://boatdiesel.com/Articles/APage...ion.cfm&Y=2004

Engine Life vs. Engine Loading

http://boatdiesel.com/Articles/APage...ion.cfm&Y=2004

Nothing beats good filtration!



There used to be some model airplane diesels but I don't mean that
small

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Roger Long







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Those look like remarkable engines, but slow turning, so big and heavy.
This is a small air cooled diesel.
http://www.lombardiniusa.com/singtabl.htm

"Mic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:58:14 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

That makes me wonder. What is the smallest and lightest diesel engine
available?


http://www.vegburner.co.uk/dieselengine.html

EXCELLENT PAGE^^^^

http://www.vibha.com/diesel.html

http://www.lovson.com/air-cooled-diesel-engines.html


http://www.lovson.com/lister-type-sl...l-engines.html

http://www.lovson.com/peter-type-sh-series-engines.htm

http://www.dieselnet.com/news/1997/08yanmar.php

http://www.usdieselengines.com/6_kw%...rator_open.htm

http://boatdiesel.com/Articles/APage...troduction.cfm

****Out With The Old - Replacing Old Fuel Filtration Technology With
New

http://boatdiesel.com/Articles/APage...troduction.cfm

***Repowering a 34 foot Californian

http://boatdiesel.com/Articles/APage...ion.cfm&Y=2005

Installing Shafts, Logs, Struts and Rudders along w/ your favorite
Engine and Transmission

http://boatdiesel.com/Articles/APage...ion.cfm&Y=2004

Engine Life vs. Engine Loading

http://boatdiesel.com/Articles/APage...ion.cfm&Y=2004

Nothing beats good filtration!



There used to be some model airplane diesels but I don't mean that
small

--

Roger Long







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The issues with air cooled diesels on a boat are noise and ventilation.
The water jacket provides enough extra mass and bulk to have a
significant noise reduction effect, and diesels need all the noise
reduction they can get. In addition, air cooling requires an open
engine box further adding to the noise issue.

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Impressive research but you missed the real gem:

http://www.launtop.com/ebusiness/en/...5&productid=40

the 5 hp model can be had for about $200 last I checked. The info I have
is that this is the factory that makes these engines for Yanmar. A rumor
is that they make the gasoline engines for Honda.

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My ENTEC West is the smallest I have ever come across. Works very well.

Doug

"Roger Long" wrote in message
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That makes me wonder. What is the smallest and lightest diesel engine
available?

There used to be some model airplane diesels but I don't mean that small

--

Roger Long






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That kind of thing might be appropriate as a quick and dirty emergency
homepower solution but never on a boat. I agree with the figures
quoted on engine life however. When it comes to small gas engines,
Honda OHVs are the best I've seen.

Mic, since you seem intent on posting to this cruising newsgroup with
prodigious verbocity and authority, I think it would be appropriate if
you told us a bit more about your experience, e.g., what kind of boat
do you have, where do you cruise, experience level, etc. I may may be
wrong but you impress me as a total rookie who is not well enough
grounded in boating skills/experience to filter out good information
from bad. Enough said?



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