Len wrote in
:

In another group Larry W4CSC has been continuously imprving his
"Liveaboard Simulator". I take it he won't mind my posting it here
too.


I'm flattered....(c;


--
Larry

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:51:01 -0400, Larry wrote:

Len wrote in
:

In another group Larry W4CSC has been continuously imprving his
"Liveaboard Simulator". I take it he won't mind my posting it here
too.


I'm flattered....(c;

You may very well feel that way...
IMO it combines being funny with various moments of sheer
recognition...
You might consider adding the typical moments offshore, like getting
out of bed at 03.00 going out in your pyama's and being hosed down
with the garden hose by your partner who's yelling "we need to set a
reef"...

Len
S/v Present

Len wrote:

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:51:01 -0400, Larry wrote:


Len wrote in
m:


In another group Larry W4CSC has been continuously imprving his
"Liveaboard Simulator". I take it he won't mind my posting it here
too.


I'm flattered....(c;


You may very well feel that way...
IMO it combines being funny with various moments of sheer
recognition...
You might consider adding the typical moments offshore, like getting
out of bed at 03.00 going out in your pyama's and being hosed down
with the garden hose by your partner who's yelling "we need to set a
reef"...

and they hose you off with salt water, don't forget what that's like
when it dries.

The problem though with Larry's simulator is that it leaves off all the
good parts of living on a boat.



--
Stephen

-------

For any proposition there is always some sufficiently narrow
interpretation of its terms, such that it turns out true, and
some sufficiently wide interpretation such that it turns out
false...concept stretching will refute *any* statement, and will
leave no true statement whatsoever.
-- Imre Lakatos

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:03:56 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:

You might consider adding the typical moments offshore, like getting
out of bed at 03.00 going out in your pyama's and being hosed down
with the garden hose by your partner who's yelling "we need to set a
reef"...

and they hose you off with salt water, don't forget what that's like
when it dries.

The problem though with Larry's simulator is that it leaves off all the
good parts of living on a boat.

Yes, I see your point. But as I read it it's an insurance policy
against the hazard of making decisions being blinded by love for
boats....

For us (the mrs and me) the best part of living aboard is the freedom.
We can take our pick of harbours or anchorages to choose from.
When a particular place doesn't suit us, we simple go elsewhere...

And also another type of freedom:
No garden, no home-improvement, no stuffing up garages and attics with
the useless crap that is sold in bundles nowadays, no car, just two
folding bikes.
We altered slowly into a less consuming lyfestyle and in retrospect
that is the major asset.

What do you regard as the good parts?

Regards, Len.

Len wrote:

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:03:56 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:


You might consider adding the typical moments offshore, like getting
out of bed at 03.00 going out in your pyama's and being hosed down
with the garden hose by your partner who's yelling "we need to set a
reef"...

and they hose you off with salt water, don't forget what that's like
when it dries.

The problem though with Larry's simulator is that it leaves off all the
good parts of living on a boat.


Yes, I see your point. But as I read it it's an insurance policy
against the hazard of making decisions being blinded by love for
boats....

For us (the mrs and me) the best part of living aboard is the freedom.
We can take our pick of harbours or anchorages to choose from.
When a particular place doesn't suit us, we simple go elsewhere...

And also another type of freedom:
No garden, no home-improvement, no stuffing up garages and attics with
the useless crap that is sold in bundles nowadays, no car, just two
folding bikes.
We altered slowly into a less consuming lyfestyle and in retrospect
that is the major asset.

What do you regard as the good parts?

Well, for one, lots to do with the mobility as you said, especially if
one is in an area like I am, Puget Sound, where there are tons of
marinas and anchorages to explore, and the whole waterway sheltered, and
the sense of adventure and exploration that goes with it, without as
much of the high speed and high risk associated with highway travel.

The boating culture and increased opportunity to meet people is a
biggie. There's something about boating that encourages camraderie and
leads people to be friendly, like when they have both traveled from a
distance and find themselves sharing the same piece of adventure. Also
there's a healthy chunk of the "live it up" mentality among boaters,
which is loads of fun if one doesn't overdo it.

Another feature of boating to love is harder to describe. It has to do
with the smell of the water, the feel of floating instead of being stuck
to the ground, the forces of nature have you, but they don't, you
partner with them for your ends. But not just that, it's always ancient
and brand new, a part of your history and future and the same time,
deeply familiar yet always strange.


--
Stephen

-------

For any proposition there is always some sufficiently narrow
interpretation of its terms, such that it turns out true, and
some sufficiently wide interpretation such that it turns out
false...concept stretching will refute *any* statement, and will
leave no true statement whatsoever.
-- Imre Lakatos

Another feature of boating to love is harder to describe. It has to do
with the smell of the water, the feel of floating instead of being stuck
to the ground, the forces of nature have you, but they don't, you
partner with them for your ends. But not just that, it's always ancient
and brand new, a part of your history and future and the same time,
deeply familiar yet always strange.

Stephen


http://www.sleepingwithoars.com/

On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 09:13:35 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:

The boating culture and increased opportunity to meet people is a
biggie. There's something about boating that encourages camraderie and
leads people to be friendly, like when they have both traveled from a
distance and find themselves sharing the same piece of adventure. Also
there's a healthy chunk of the "live it up" mentality among boaters,
which is loads of fun if one doesn't overdo it.

I couldn't agree more.
In our present harbour we've met a lot of likeminded people. Also
quite a few of mostly guys come up for a chat when I'm working
outside. A popular subject is "how did you get your wife to agree" ...
In my case my wife is a daugther of a commercial freight captain.
Together with his wife he travelled on the rivers to Germany, Belgium
etc. In fact it was her idea to switch from house to boat.
When I mention this I once again feel how lucky I am...

Another feature of boating to love is harder to describe. It has to do
with the smell of the water, the feel of floating instead of being stuck
to the ground, the forces of nature have you, but they don't, you
partner with them for your ends. But not just that, it's always ancient
and brand new, a part of your history and future and the same time,
deeply familiar yet always strange.

Another "bulls eye" and put to words beautifully. The moments we
cherish most are calm nights at sea with or close to new moon, looking
at bright stars and increase feel for relativity, awaking in an
anchorage, scanning the place in the early morningmist, following
birds with binoculars,etc.
A close encounter with a whale when underway would be impressive too
I'm sure. I guess it has to do with (re-)connecting with nature.

Len
S/v Present

Len wrote in
:

A close encounter with a whale when underway would be impressive too
I'm sure. I guess it has to do with (re-)connecting with nature.


I was alone on the midwatch of S/V "Claire's Navie", an Endeavour 35 about
100 miles off the Georgia coast, on a pitch black night with the moon set.
Somewhere around 3AM "something surfaced", making an awful rushing noise
out there in the pitch dark off my starboard beam. I swear I heard it also
"breathe" through its blowhole. The rushing stopped as quickly as it
started and the sounds of the 4-5' quartering seas returned to normal. I
couldn't tell if the "something" made any of the waves that hit the hull or
not in the pitch dark. It must have been your whale. I didn't hear any
screws turning.

I had no trouble remaining awake way past my watch relief, who got hit
DIRECTLY in his stomach from port by a huge flying fish that stunk up the
cockpit something awful before we could heave it overboard. He woke right
up for the rest of his watch, too!....(c;

It's much more fun thinking about these panic attacks than laying back
there, slightly drunk, in a quiet cove I think...

--
Larry

On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 10:24:23 +0100, Len wrote:

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:03:56 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:

You might consider adding the typical moments offshore, like getting
out of bed at 03.00 going out in your pyama's and being hosed down
with the garden hose by your partner who's yelling "we need to set a
reef"...

and they hose you off with salt water, don't forget what that's like
when it dries.

The problem though with Larry's simulator is that it leaves off all the
good parts of living on a boat.

Yes, I see your point. But as I read it it's an insurance policy
against the hazard of making decisions being blinded by love for
boats....

For us (the mrs and me) the best part of living aboard is the freedom.
We can take our pick of harbours or anchorages to choose from.
When a particular place doesn't suit us, we simple go elsewhere...

And also another type of freedom:
No garden, no home-improvement, no stuffing up garages and attics with
the useless crap that is sold in bundles nowadays, no car, just two
folding bikes.
We altered slowly into a less consuming lyfestyle and in retrospect
that is the major asset.

What do you regard as the good parts?

Regards, Len.

Where are you docked currently, Len?

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 14:05:07 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Where are you docked currently, Len?

Not in Gouda
Nore Stolwijk...
Magnificent cheese though...

Till next year we'll be welded to the pier for a refit.
It's on freshwater: the IJsselmeer, Gouwzee. We have spent some time
now in Monnickendam but we'll be "moving to" Enkhuizen.
We'll both be taking marine comm courses there at the marine uni.

Regards, Len.