"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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(b) The term "power-driven vessel" means any vessel propelled by
machinery.

And your motor is not propelling machinery?

Try reading (b) again.


And your motor is not propelling machinery? I guess a power boat like mine
is not a power boat when the motor is turned off or not in gear. So you hit
a drift fishing "Power boat" who has his motor off or in not in gear, who is
at fault.

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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(b) The term "power-driven vessel" means any vessel propelled by
machinery.

And your motor is not propelling machinery?

Try reading (b) again.


And your motor is not propelling machinery? I guess a power boat like
mine is not a power boat when the motor is turned off or not in gear. So
you hit a drift fishing "Power boat" who has his motor off or in not in
gear, who is at fault.

Are you really that stupid or are you just trolling?

"vessel propelled by machinery"

When your vessel's engine is off and/or you're not using it to move the
vessel and you're not at anchor or at the dock, you're considered to be a
vessel not under command.

Fishing boats have special status... look up commercial fishing vessel
engaged in fishing.

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Capt. JG wrote:
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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And your motor is not propelling machinery? I guess a power boat like
mine is not a power boat when the motor is turned off or not in gear. So
you hit a drift fishing "Power boat" who has his motor off or in not in
gear, who is at fault.

Are you really that stupid or are you just trolling?

"vessel propelled by machinery"

When your vessel's engine is off and/or you're not using it to move the
vessel and you're not at anchor or at the dock, you're considered to be a
vessel not under command.

Bill's boat should be considered "not under command" at all times.

However, I'm not sure turning off the engine of a powerboat, or
putting it in neutral, makes it a NUC. The rules are specific that
showing the appropriate signal is required, though you could claim
that an open engine hatch is a reasonable substitute for small boats.

However, the important aspect is that vessels don't acquire special
status "in secret;" their status must be apparent to all at a
distance. This is why, for instance, the categories of vessels are
not significant in restricted visibility.

The status of a vessel in neutral may have to be unraveled in an
Admiralty Court, but captains will be judged by how they reacted to
the information they had at hand. If it was determined that a
"sailboat" was actually a powerboat, Bill will not be absolved of his
responsibility to keep clear, though his liability might be reduced
somewhat.

Similarly, boaters should be aware of how they appear to others.
There is no way to tell if someone drift fishing has their engine
running, or is in gear, or is using a trolling motor, so they should
know that other boats will expect them to act as they appear, as
powerboats.

Capt. JG wrote:
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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(b) The term "power-driven vessel" means any vessel propelled by
machinery.

And your motor is not propelling machinery?

Try reading (b) again.


And your motor is not propelling machinery? I guess a power boat like
mine is not a power boat when the motor is turned off or not in gear. So
you hit a drift fishing "Power boat" who has his motor off or in not in
gear, who is at fault.


Are you really that stupid or are you just trolling?

"vessel propelled by machinery"

When your vessel's engine is off and/or you're not using it to move the
vessel and you're not at anchor or at the dock, you're considered to be a
vessel not under command.

Fishing boats have special status... look up commercial fishing vessel
engaged in fishing.

Wrong on both counts. A vessel with the engine off is underway not
making way. To be NUC your engine has to be broken. Fishing boats only
have special status if they fit the legal discription of fishing. A
boat "drift fishing" does not.

Better give those rules a re-read.

Gaz

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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And your motor is not propelling machinery? I guess a power boat like
mine
is not a power boat when the motor is turned off or not in gear. So you
hit
a drift fishing "Power boat" who has his motor off or in not in gear, who
is
at fault.

Bill, like I said before, you need to read the Collision Regulations before
you ask dumb questions like you are asking. All of the answers for your
questions can be found in the Collision Regulations. You, perhaps, should
take a Power Squadron course so that they can help you understand how to
read the regulations so that your questions don't even need to be asked.
Well, anyway Bill, read Rule 18 for the answer to your question. If you
don't understand rule 18, then perhaps you might give up boating and just
watch it on TV.

Jim C.

Bill McKee wrote:
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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(b) The term "power-driven vessel" means any vessel propelled by
machinery.

And your motor is not propelling machinery?

Try reading (b) again.



And your motor is not propelling machinery? I guess a power boat like mine
is not a power boat when the motor is turned off or not in gear. So you hit
a drift fishing "Power boat" who has his motor off or in not in gear, who is
at fault.


Billy. How old are you? Is it time for school yet? When a bicycle
runs into a parked car who is at fault?

"Gary" wrote in message
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Bill McKee wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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(b) The term "power-driven vessel" means any vessel propelled by
machinery.

And your motor is not propelling machinery?

Try reading (b) again.



And your motor is not propelling machinery? I guess a power boat like
mine is not a power boat when the motor is turned off or not in gear. So
you hit a drift fishing "Power boat" who has his motor off or in not in
gear, who is at fault.
Billy. How old are you? Is it time for school yet? When a bicycle runs
into a parked car who is at fault?

If in California the car may be at fault.
Let's ask the question about bikes and pedestrians. Refer to California.
1)You are driving down the street and a bike is coming down the other street
and runs the stop sign and you collide. Who is at fault?

2)You are driving down the street and a bike is coming down the other street
on the side walk and runs the stop sign and you collide. Who is at fault?

3) You are driving down the street and a pedestrian runs out from between 2
cars and you collide. Who is at fault?

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(b) The term "power-driven vessel" means any vessel propelled by
machinery.

And your motor is not propelling machinery?

Try reading (b) again.



And your motor is not propelling machinery? I guess a power boat like
mine is not a power boat when the motor is turned off or not in gear. So
you hit a drift fishing "Power boat" who has his motor off or in not in
gear, who is at fault.

Billy. How old are you? Is it time for school yet? When a bicycle runs
into a parked car who is at fault?


If in California the car may be at fault.
Let's ask the question about bikes and pedestrians. Refer to California.
1)You are driving down the street and a bike is coming down the other street
and runs the stop sign and you collide. Who is at fault?

2)You are driving down the street and a bike is coming down the other street
on the side walk and runs the stop sign and you collide. Who is at fault?

3) You are driving down the street and a pedestrian runs out from between 2
cars and you collide. Who is at fault?


I don't know anything about California law but I know the International
Regulations for Preventing Collisions at sea. You don't.

In article . net,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:
If in California the car may be at fault.
Let's ask the question about bikes and pedestrians. Refer to California.
1)You are driving down the street and a bike is coming down the other street
and runs the stop sign and you collide. Who is at fault?

2)You are driving down the street and a bike is coming down the other street
on the side walk and runs the stop sign and you collide. Who is at fault?

3) You are driving down the street and a pedestrian runs out from between 2
cars and you collide. Who is at fault?


I'd rather talk about sailing. I'm sure you're an expert when it comes
to colliding bikes and cars.




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