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Glenn Ashmore August 20th 05 12:32 AM

Actually the ITU ended the code requirement in July of 2003 at WRC-03.

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"Larry" wrote in message
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"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in
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But has the ITU changed the treaty? Nothing can happen until then.

Doug, k3qt



Long time ago. ARRL did what it could to prevent ITU from changing its
mind, but common sense prevailed. Code hasn't been an ITU requirement in
years. ARRL pulled out all the stops to prevent ham radio from having a
new flood of new hams without code on the old codgers' HF bands.

Now, we need to get rid of this stupid caste system and get down to ONE
license with all frequencies available to ALL, without CODE SUBBANDS,
which
I predict are the next on the chopping block! USA hams may be heard from
14.100-14.150 on SSB before I die! What a concept....joining the rest of
the world on this precious slice of frequencies....all on PHONE.

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Doug Dotson August 20th 05 03:55 AM


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On 2005-08-19 dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom said:
But has the ITU changed the treaty? Nothing can happen until then.

Yep, did that at the last warc conference, I think 1999.

73


I know that isn't true. The code requirement was still in place as of 2 or 3
years ago.



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Doug Dotson August 20th 05 03:56 AM


"Larry" wrote in message
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"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in
:

But has the ITU changed the treaty? Nothing can happen until then.

Doug, k3qt



Long time ago. ARRL did what it could to prevent ITU from changing its
mind, but common sense prevailed. Code hasn't been an ITU requirement in
years. ARRL pulled out all the stops to prevent ham radio from having a
new flood of new hams without code on the old codgers' HF bands.

Now, we need to get rid of this stupid caste system and get down to ONE
license with all frequencies available to ALL, without CODE SUBBANDS,
which
I predict are the next on the chopping block! USA hams may be heard from
14.100-14.150 on SSB before I die! What a concept....joining the rest of
the world on this precious slice of frequencies....all on PHONE.

--
Larry


Yea! Welcome to the next generation of CB.



Larry August 20th 05 04:17 AM

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in
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Yea! Welcome to the next generation of CB.


Nonsense. Marine VHF has no license at all and it's not like CB....well,
often....until their drunk. Ham radio is worse than CB when THEY're drunk.

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Larry

Larry August 20th 05 04:19 AM

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in
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Yea! Welcome to the next generation of CB.


It's also very interesting that a MAJORITY of the FCC offenders written up
on HF are not unlicensed stations....they're not General Class operators or
Novices....No, the MAJORITY of the FCC offenders are EXTRA Class Operators,
their heads swelled with ego puffing out their chests....

The truth about ham radio can be seen in rec.radio.amateur.policy any day.
6-year-olds fighting over the Tonka Truck in a sandbox are more civil.

--
Larry

Doug Dotson August 20th 05 01:53 PM


"Larry" wrote in message
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"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in
:

Yea! Welcome to the next generation of CB.


Nonsense. Marine VHF has no license at all and it's not like CB....well,
often....until their drunk. Ham radio is worse than CB when THEY're
drunk.

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Larry


The CG does a fairly good job of policing Marine VHF. No such thing in CB
or Ham, at least not like it used to be.

Doug



L. M. Rappaport August 20th 05 03:22 PM

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 23:19:52 -0400, Larry wrote (with
possible editing):

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in
:

Yea! Welcome to the next generation of CB.


It's also very interesting that a MAJORITY of the FCC offenders written up
on HF are not unlicensed stations....they're not General Class operators or
Novices....No, the MAJORITY of the FCC offenders are EXTRA Class Operators,
their heads swelled with ego puffing out their chests....

The truth about ham radio can be seen in rec.radio.amateur.policy any day.
6-year-olds fighting over the Tonka Truck in a sandbox are more civil.


No flame, Larry, but can you document that? References, please. I
always thought there were far more violations on CB, particularly
since callsigns are required and I never heard them. Of course that
is anecdotal. Those violators don't seem to be pursued by the FCC,
but that doesn't mean they aren't violating the law. Thank you.
--

Larry (W1HJF - Amateur Extra Class)
Email to rapp at lmr dot com

Larry August 20th 05 08:52 PM

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in
:

The CG does a fairly good job of policing Marine VHF


The CG does a fairly good job policing Channel 16 and 22A. I've never
heard them say anything to the cursing shrimpers on the other channels like
10 or the pleasure boat channels. They don't listen to them.

--
Larry

Larry August 20th 05 09:00 PM

L. M. Rappaport wrote in
:

No flame, Larry, but can you document that? References, please. I
always thought there were far more violations on CB, particularly
since callsigns are required and I never heard them. Of course that
is anecdotal. Those violators don't seem to be pursued by the FCC,
but that doesn't mean they aren't violating the law. Thank you.
--

Larry (W1HJF - Amateur Extra Class)


There aren't any violations on CB. FCC gave up...(c;

I don't find any "list" I can point you to, even on the FCC's website.
Let's see, Richard whatzizname and the other idiots on 14.303, FZ in Puerto
Rico's a prime example. If you go through the old ARRL mags where they post
the troublemakers and look up the calls, that would give you an indication.

--
Larry (W4CSC - Amateur Extra Class)


Doug Dotson August 20th 05 10:41 PM


"L. M. Rappaport" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 23:19:52 -0400, Larry wrote (with
possible editing):

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in
:

Yea! Welcome to the next generation of CB.


It's also very interesting that a MAJORITY of the FCC offenders written up
on HF are not unlicensed stations....they're not General Class operators
or
Novices....No, the MAJORITY of the FCC offenders are EXTRA Class
Operators,
their heads swelled with ego puffing out their chests....

The truth about ham radio can be seen in rec.radio.amateur.policy any day.
6-year-olds fighting over the Tonka Truck in a sandbox are more civil.


No flame, Larry, but can you document that? References, please. I
always thought there were far more violations on CB, particularly
since callsigns are required and I never heard them. Of course that
is anecdotal. Those violators don't seem to be pursued by the FCC,
but that doesn't mean they aren't violating the law. Thank you.
--

Larry (W1HJF - Amateur Extra Class)
Email to rapp at lmr dot com


Larry is just ****ed that he never was able to pass his Extra exam.




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