GK User wrote in
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PS With the advent of the internet and new technologies, that
require more bandwidth, I feel anything we can do to increase the
ranks of Amateur Radio operators is a good thing and if that means
sacrificing the code to save the hobby then I'm all for that. What we
must not give up is education into the rules and operating procedures
as well as basic theory and operation. We still need "educated"
professional operators.



Ham radio will be lucky if it survives to 2010. Go to any hamfest and
figure out the average age of the attendees is around 60, the few ham kids
included. Most kids can't figure out why they'd ever want a ham radio when
they can simply boot their computers, now with broadband, and talk to their
friends in Hong Kong without some old coot bitching at them that they are
on his private frequency he's been on since 1948 with his other old coot
friends. The old coots are killing ham radio. They hate kids on the air.

Naw...Not only has the code outlived itself by 30 years....so hasn't ham
radio.

73 DE W4CSC
old coot since 1957

NNNN

In article , Larry
wrote:

Oh, its transmitter uses traveling wave tubes. Both of them are also STILL
working fine after 25 years on the air!

More important: 25 years IN no air. (Loss of "vacuum" is the primary
root cause of failures) Didn't one of Edison's first primitive light
bulbs recently die after staying lit for many, many years?

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Jere Lull wrote in news:jerelull-
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Didn't one of Edison's first primitive light
bulbs recently die after staying lit for many, many years?


I think there is one hanging over a fire engine in a firehouse in rural PA
that's still working...hanging there upside down.

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Larry

OK Larry!

Let's make a deal (and save me the time of reading through all the
commentary).

The next time this topic comes up, it will be when the code requirements
have been eliminated.

Until that day, I won't get my hopes up or refresh for the written exam.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

"Steve" wrote in
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Until that day, I won't get my hopes up or refresh for the written exam.


Won't be long, now. The whole world is dumping Morse.

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Larry

"Larry" wrote in message
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"Steve" wrote in
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Until that day, I won't get my hopes up or refresh for the written exam.


Won't be long, now. The whole world is dumping Morse.

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Larry

But has the ITU changed the treaty? Nothing can happen until then.

Doug, k3qt

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On 2005-08-19 dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom said:
But has the ITU changed the treaty? Nothing can happen until then.
Yep, did that at the last warc conference, I think 1999.

73



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On 2005-08-19 dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom said:
I wrote:
But has the ITU changed the treaty? Nothing can happen until
then. Yep, did that at the last warc conference, I think 1999.
73
I know that isn't true. The code requirement was still in place as
of 2 or 3 years ago.
Yep, it was '03 and not '99 as I earlier stated. Looked through some
old records and noted somebody else called it right here in an early
article in this thread.
IT was under discussion in '99 but then was tabled only to come up
again inthe 2003 conference.




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On 2005-08-19 said:
"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in
It's also very interesting that a MAJORITY of the FCC offenders
written up on HF are not unlicensed stations....they're not General
Class operators or Novices....No, the MAJORITY of the FCC offenders
are EXTRA Class Operators, their heads swelled with ego puffing out
their chests.... The truth about ham radio can be seen in rec.radio.
amateur.policy any day. 6-year-olds fighting over the Tonka Truck
in a sandbox are more civil. --
Amen brother!! rec.radio.amateur.misc can be just as bad. I gave up
on those two newsgroups as a waste of time and bandwidth many years
ago.
INtelligent discourse? YOu gotta be kidding!!!



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Amazing how much tape is on a 10" reel, when it's not, isn't it?

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in
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But has the ITU changed the treaty? Nothing can happen until then.

Doug, k3qt



Long time ago. ARRL did what it could to prevent ITU from changing its
mind, but common sense prevailed. Code hasn't been an ITU requirement in
years. ARRL pulled out all the stops to prevent ham radio from having a
new flood of new hams without code on the old codgers' HF bands.

Now, we need to get rid of this stupid caste system and get down to ONE
license with all frequencies available to ALL, without CODE SUBBANDS, which
I predict are the next on the chopping block! USA hams may be heard from
14.100-14.150 on SSB before I die! What a concept....joining the rest of
the world on this precious slice of frequencies....all on PHONE.

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Larry