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1460 is called a "drive constant" for electrical horsepower. One HP is
33,000 ft. lb/minute and one cubic foot is 7.48 gallons. Consider a cylinder with a cross sectional area of 144 sq in. (1 sq.ft.) place a 33,000 lb piston in it and pump one cubic foot of water into it in one minute. The pressure is 33,000lb/144 sq in = 229.16 PSI * 7.48 GPM = 1714. That is the hydraulic constant. Electric motor driven pumps range from 78 to 92% efficient with a mean of about 85% so 1714*.85= 1456. 1460 is standard for all hydraulic pressure calculations with electric motors. With a super premium 10 HP pump and motor at 90% you might use 1540 but no practical electric motors under 2HP ever gets much better than about 85%. 1HP = 746 Watts. Mother nature does not allow us to screw around very much with either. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com "Geoff Schultz" wrote in message ... Glenn, Sorry to keep coming back to the same issues, but I just want to make sure that I've really done my homework before talking to Village Marine about my system. Since my system, and many non-state-of-the-art systems don't have energy recovery systems, the formula for computing the HP for the pump is: HP = (PSI*GPM)/1460 Thus you have 2 or 3 things to play with on the right side of the equation: 1) You can increase the PSI which will overdrive the membrane but will increase production rates. 2) You can lower the GPM and drive the production rate on the membrane above the 13-15% rate speced for the membrane which will cause the membrane to foul more quickly. 3) One question I have is can you increase the efficiency of the pump and thus increase the denominator? What is 1460? Is this some fixed constant for all pumps or does this represent optimal case pumping? On the left side you've got HP, and the only thing that you can do there is to increase the efficiency of the motor. Are there really large differences in the watts per HP based upon motor technology? I have a reasonable understanding of RO system design in parallel vs serial membranes. Parallel is out for me because it would require doubling the feed flow rate for an additional membrane. Series is much better as the flow rate to the following membrane only drops by the amount of permeate (product) produced by the prior membrane and there is also a corresponding pressure drop to the feed of the next membrane. This causes the TDS (Total Disolved Solids) of the next membrane to increase and this eventually limits the number of series membranes which can be used. So, what's 1460 and what differences are there in motor technology? -- Geoff |
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