I don't know if this part of the discussion has any impact or interest
for the original poster...


The Lectra-San kills all the bacteria.

Peggie Hall wrote:
Not necessarily...it does reduce the count to 10/100 ml (the law
requires only a reduction to 1000/100 ml)


Picky picky... OK it doesn't kill *all* the bacteria, just so many of
them that it's actually safer than many people's drinking water.


It does not reduce or break
down the material effluent, which contains nutrients and changes the
local ecological balance.


Again, not quite true...The L/S does reduce BOD by 35%. The discharge
has the equivilant nutrient "load" of 4 oak leaves.

Didn't know that... that's very good. Probably better than many
municipal treatment outlets.


... In fact, just ONE
illegally dumped tank has more negative impact on the surrounding waters
within at least a mile than 1,000 boats, all equipped with L/S in the
same area for 24 hours.

Now there I'll agree. Most boaters... especially the ones advocating a
bucket -n- chuck it strategy... would not believe the impact of a single
untreated flush.


You'll find the results of a study he
http://www.mfe.govt.nz/publications/...port-jun02.pdf

Runoff from the shore and the rivers that feed coastal waters are the
problem, not boats.


The overwhelming part of the problem, yes. Absolutely. But because the
waters are already loaded with land source effluent, that magnifies the
effect of point-source effluent dump.

Most birds know better than to foul their own nests, why can't mankind
be that smart?

Regards
Doug King

In article ,
says...

Most birds know better than to foul their own nests, why can't mankind
be that smart?

Where do sea birds poop? Just asking.

Gogarty wrote:

In article ,
says...


Most birds know better than to foul their own nests, why can't mankind
be that smart?


Where do sea birds poop? Just asking.


And meanwhile are there any mankind living in the actual water?

Stephen

Most birds know better than to foul their own nests, why can't mankind
be that smart?


Gogarty wrote:
Where do sea birds poop? Just asking.


1- the birds were already there
2- the birds poop has different... and far less per "drop"... than humans
3- do you imagine there might be some Freudian issues of why some people
insist on their right to doo-doo in the water where other people are
sailing, swimming, etc etc.

DSK

"DSK" wrote
3- do you imagine there might be some Freudian issues of why some people
insist on their right to doo-doo in the water where other people are
sailing, swimming, etc etc.

So, to avoid using my lectrosan I hold it til I get to shore and use the
potty in town. Where does it go? After treatment, it goes in the water where
other people are sailing, swimming, etc. - just like it would had I used the
'san. That's why the Cheasapeake is so, well, ****ty.

The problem is too many people but, as Pogo said, nobody wants to be the
first to leave.

Vito wrote:
"DSK" wrote

3- do you imagine there might be some Freudian issues of why some people
insist on their right to doo-doo in the water where other people are
sailing, swimming, etc etc.


So, to avoid using my lectrosan I hold it til I get to shore and use the
potty in town.


The whole point of using a Lectra/San is to be able to use it in an
anchorage...the federal water quality standard for swimming requires a
bacteria count of 200...the bacteria count in a L/S discharge is 10.

Where does it go? After treatment, it goes in the water where
other people are sailing, swimming, etc. - just like it would had I used the
'san. That's why the Cheasapeake is so, well, ****ty.

Actually, it's not the reason...Boats have so little do with it that if
everything else could be "fixed," the small amount of waste that boats
contribute would actually become beneficial. The real reasons are many
and complex, starting with overfishing and depleting--compounded by a
virus that also kills off a lot of 'em--the oyster and crab and other
shellfish population, which are nature's "sewage treatment plant"...then
there's what all the rivers dump into the Bay...and the runoff directly
from the shore. It didn't happen overnight...it won't be cleaned up
overnight, nor are there any simple solutions. But a good start would be
a moratorium on shellfishing for at least 5 years...the watermen would
howl, but if the gov't can pay millions of farmers not to grow certain
crops, it can pay a few hundred waterman not to shellfish till the
population reaches a level again sufficient to process a good portion of
the pollutants. FYI, the shellfish and other "garbage eaters" in just
2500 healthy acres of bottom is enough to completely cleanse the waste
from a population of 100,000. (Surprised the hell out of me to learn
that too!).
--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1