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You are right. Sorry about that. I should have read the whole thing.
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JR Gilbreath wrote:

Hi Doug

You mean 110 Volts not amps don't you? About 13.5 amps.
JR;


Doug Dotson wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:38:13 -0500, "John Cassara"
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The long winded point is that a 900AH Battery and an inverter will
not run a
Heater all weekend.


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That's true but it will run a heater for 7 or 8 hours at night which
is all you really need (assuming you can recharge in the morning).




Nope. Our Pelonus ceramic cube heater draws around 110A. With a
900AH battery bank you would be lucky to get 4 hours. Probably
less since it is drawing much more than the 20 hour rate from which
your 900AH rating is based. We have a 500AH+ bank in our mobile
canvas shop. The heater is good for about an hour.

Doug


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"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in
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All ture, except the part about two separate panels. My main AC panel
has interlocks for shore/genset/inverter plus distribution for 2 30A
circuits.
Off the shelf and ABYC accepted.




Does that panel with the "inverter" position disconnect the
inverter/charger's AC power input when it goes into the inverter
position?....keeping the inverter from powering its own charger??

Too funny....(c;

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On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:09:48 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

Nope. Our Pelonus ceramic cube heater draws around 110A. With a
900AH battery bank you would be lucky to get 4 hours. Probably
less since it is drawing much more than the 20 hour rate from which
your 900AH rating is based. We have a 500AH+ bank in our mobile
canvas shop. The heater is good for about an hour.


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That assumes continuous duty. Unless you have a really large cabin
and/or a really cold night, the heater is actually on less than 30% of
the time. I had a 440 AH bank on my old boat and we would usually
make it through the night. I could hit the generator start button in
the morning without getting out of bed. :-)

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On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:07:54 GMT, Me wrote:

Any other system, that does not provbide the above Mutual Exclusivity
will certainly, and eventually, let out the MAGIC SMOKE, that makes the
electrons run thru the wires. Either you, the mate, or just a friend
aboard, will make a breaker setting mistake, and out will come the
MAGIC SMOKE, and the results will be BAD.....


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That's all true but both my old boat and new boat have power selector
switches on the distribution panel that provide just the sort of
exclusive selection that you speak of. Perhaps our use of terminology
is different. I'm using "distribution panel" to describe the area
where all AC control switching takes place, not just the breaker bus.



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On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:57:10 -0500, Larry W4CSC
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I'm beginning to like my SEPARATE power system on Lionheart's inverter more
and more every post....(c;


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That's all well and good on a small boat with only a couple of outlets
to power. On a larger boat with hardwired appliances and extensive AC
circuitry it doesn't work too well.

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On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:21:37 -0500, Larry W4CSC
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Wayne.B wrote in
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Have you ever read Pracitcal Sailor? They are an (expensive)


No, I haven't. I think I saw some little, few pages newsletter at Boat/US
for $8. Is that it??


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With an annual subscription it works out to about $4 per copy. I've
always regarded it as money well spent. Your mileage may vary but
maybe you can talk your "owner" into springing for a subscription.

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Larry W4CSC wrote:

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in
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All ture, except the part about two separate panels. My main AC panel
has interlocks for shore/genset/inverter plus distribution for 2 30A
circuits.
Off the shelf and ABYC accepted.





Does that panel with the "inverter" position disconnect the
inverter/charger's AC power input when it goes into the inverter
position?....keeping the inverter from powering its own charger??

Too funny....(c;



The thing that bothers me about "automatic" inverters like the smoked
Freedom Marine 25 setting on the floor beside me is the apparent (to me)
high rate of failure due to no apparent cause. Mine smoked
during operation with a low load at anchor after several hours of
trouble free operation that day. Then I started noticing how many
"refurbished" marine inverters were available on E-Bay. By the way mine
was a refurbished unit.
Coincidence?

Allen

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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:43:16 GMT, Allen McCann
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The thing that bothers me about "automatic" inverters like the smoked
Freedom Marine 25 setting on the floor beside me is the apparent (to me)
high rate of failure due to no apparent cause.


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I had a Freedom Marine 30 on my old boat with a Link 2000 panel. Both
were troublesome and required ongoing service.

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"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

All ture, except the part about two separate panels. My main AC panel
has interlocks for shore/genset/inverter plus distribution for 2 30A
circuits.
Off the shelf and ABYC accepted.


and do you have the Inverter Input and Output connected to breakers on
the same buss? The Inverter Output also needs to have it's own Mutually
Exclusive Access to the Output Power Distribution Buss to be in
compliance with ABS and NEC..........

That was part of the OP's original problem.......

Me
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