|
Yep, I remember when it use to be illegal to confiscate private property, but the gov
said it would only confiscate drug money and property, well we see what happened there. City's are confiscating cars racing, and if you are cough with a lot of money, you may loose it to, though you have it legally. Seizure laws should be repealed. Harbin "Calif Bill" wrote in message k.net... "Marley" wrote in message ... Proclamation Restricts Rights of Boats in US Waters A Proclamation made by US President George W. Bush on February 26, 2004, authorizes the Secretary of Homeland Security to take virtually total control over any vessel, foreign or domestic, in the territorial waters of the United States, if the authorities feel that vessel "may be used, or is susceptible of being used, for voyage into Cuban territorial waters". Translation: If the "authorities" believe for any reason that you are THINKING about or are able to visit Cuba, you loose your boat. Yup...the authorities are now MIND READERS. And once they read your mind they act accordingly. I would venture to say that ANY boat is "susceptible of being used to visit Cuba, wouldn't you? Don't believe it? Here's it is striaght from the horses ass...err...mouth http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...040226-11.html Welcome to 1984 folks. Same thing has been used for years in the name of drug and prostitution enforcement. |
Garuda wrote:
OH my, somewhat paranoid aren't you Marley. If you don't agree with our laws, during wartime, take your chances and do as you wish. Personally, I've seen Cuba and have found other areas to be much more enjoyable. Only people with thoughts like you scare the crap out of me. By the way, I don't make assumptions, I act on personal desires and visiting Cuba again or reading your nonsense is something I find to be boring. If you want to see Cuba go, but quit whining about our laws. Garuda Why are you changing the subject that YOU STARTED Garuda? Let me remind you. You chastized me for not understanding: "the meaning of the word "intent" or probable cause." I correctly pointed out that the words INTENT and PROBABLE CAUSE are NOT a part of the law Resident Bush passed last February. In my opinion, your response is a lame attempt at pushing your head FURTHER up your ass. Ignorance truly IS bliss, isn't it Garuda? Whatsa matter...suddenly feeling like your post was foolish? Here, read the law right off of the white house web site, and find the intent/probably cause portion. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...040226-11.html As an aside, Cuba is a beautiful tropical paradise. Truly a gorgeous country, and the people are wonderflly warm and quite delightful. |
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:12:22 -0500, Marley wrote:
Jr Gilbreath wrote: The same people that are screaming about this, and that it is Welcome to 1984 folks" had no problem when Billy and Hilly were using the FBI files to spy on private citizens. Plus they don't know the difference between loose and lose. Marley wrote: Proclamation Restricts Rights of Boats in US Waters A Proclamation made by US President George W. Bush on February 26, 2004, authorizes the Secretary of Homeland Security to take virtually total control over any vessel, foreign or domestic, in the territorial waters of the United States, if the authorities feel that vessel "may be used, or is susceptible of being used, for voyage into Cuban territorial waters". Translation: If the "authorities" believe for any reason that you are THINKING about or are able to visit Cuba, you loose your boat. Yup...the authorities are now MIND READERS. And once they read your mind they act accordingly. I would venture to say that ANY boat is "susceptible of being used to visit Cuba, wouldn't you? Don't believe it? Here's it is striaght from the horses ass...err...mouth http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...040226-11.html Welcome to 1984 folks. Dear Jr Gilbreath, 1) I don't give a rat's ass about politics. Bush, Gore, Clinton, I simply couldnt care less. I am neither democrat or republican. You can try to turn this into a Dems vs. Rep. issue if you want to...doesn't change the law one bit though. 2) OBVIOUSLY since I typed an extra O when spelling lose..the entire statement made is negated. OBVIOUSLY that extra O completely erradicates any opinion offered. OBVIOUSLY, the law as posted on the whitehouse web site doesn't really exist, since I acidently added an extra O to word lose. By the way Jr Gilbreath, just in case you are as thick as your post suggests, try a google of the word sarcasm). It's remarkable what you, who feel that you need to be RIGHT in spite of the obvious FACTS presented ( http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...040226-11.html ), will accept as proof that you are right. Here Jr Gilbreath, let me help: In spite of the fact that lawyers no doubt spent months writing and rewriting this law, in spite of the fac that Resident GWB signed this into law, he doesn't really mean it. You can tell because I added an extra O to the word lose. OBVIOUSLy that proves that the law as written and published by the whitehouse is meaningless. They are just kidding ok? Feel better now Jr Gilbreath ? ----------------------------------------- You need to get back on your meds. mike -- Mike Hendrix Pensacola http://travellogs.us/ |
Marley wrote:
Garuda wrote: horse**** snipped Why are you changing the subject that YOU STARTED Garuda? Let me remind you.... You are wasting your time and effort on guys/girls like Dave and Garuda and few others for whom constitutional rights have become inconvenient impediments that are only situationally relevant. Egged on by airheads like Anne Coulter and boneheads like Bill Oreilly who cheerlead for the idiot Bush, they seem oblivious to the fact that this beautiful democracy is being ripped out from under them by a bunch of neo-conservative fascists. Don't think like they do and support Bush? Then you are an "enemy of America" according to Coulter. Reading the lines posted by guys like Dave and Garuda is a frightening glimpse into the minds of those who were in Benjamin Franklin's mind when he wrote about those who deserve neither freedom nor liberty. However Franklin's words would be dismissed by the neo-con thinker Coulter as having come from one who must have been an ancestor of today's 'looney left' who according to Coulter "hates America more than Al Qaeda". And why? Because their fellow American citizens DARE to exercise their constitutional right to disagree with the policies of the current administration. Think about that. There are people in positions of influence and power right now in the USA who seriously consider that anyone who didn't support Bush might be someone who is disloyal to their nation. There have been a handful of countries who have passed laws that have suspended the civil and constitutional rights of it's citizens similar to those on the books in the US now and none of those countries have been allies of the US. In fact, the US has been at war, either hot or cold with some of these states throughout the 20th century. America is in _serious_ trouble right now, and as far as this outside observer can tell, the threat is from within. Keep posting relevant info like this Marley and try not to be too discouraged or distracted when the pearls get spat back out. |
Internationally Acclaimed Education theorist and current Prof. Irwin
Corey Chair at the University of Alice Springs, K. Smith wrote: You really should grow up a bit, this genuinely is a winner takes all war, the reason you don't fully understand is that your admin has successfully protected you from further attacks since 911. Do grace us with yet more of your wisdom Oh esteemed one. Who did attack the bldgs in New York and Washington? |
Egged on =ADby airheads
like Anne Coulter and boneheads like Bill Oreilly who cheerl=ADead for the idiot Bush, they seem oblivious to the fact that this beauti=ADful democracy is being ripped out from under them by a bunch of neo-conservative fascists. LOL! well, it's about time there was a change .. I mean James Carvel, and Al Frankin were getting to be old humor. OH and don't forget the new multi millionaire Michael Moore. he's wearing thin too! |
|
|
I understand Paul, I was making a joke.
This subject has been flogged to death on the newsgroup in the past and I really do not want to take part in the thread. The "discussions" I've had the pleasure (???) of observing or participating in concerning the current administration has proven to me that the loyalty our 2 party system garners is nothing short of incredible and there is absolutely no room for "balance". MMC "Paul Schilter" wrote in message ... MMC, Copy and pasted from the site: "Sec. 4. The Secretary may seek assistance from State and local authorities in carrying out the purposes of this proclamation. Because State and local assistance may be essential for an effective response to this emergency, I urge all State and local officials to cooperate with Federal authorities and to take all actions within their lawful authority necessary to prevent the unauthorized departure of vessels intending to enter Cuban territorial waters." I would imagine they would have to prove "intent". If you were cruising the coast of southern Florida it probably wouldn't be a problem. If you were headed directly for Cuba and were getting close to their waters that might be a different situation. Paul MMC wrote: Enforcing drugs and prostitution? Sounds like Amsterdam! "Calif Bill" wrote in message k.net... "Marley" wrote in message . com... Proclamation Restricts Rights of Boats in US Waters A Proclamation made by US President George W. Bush on February 26, 2004, authorizes the Secretary of Homeland Security to take virtually total control over any vessel, foreign or domestic, in the territorial waters of the United States, if the authorities feel that vessel "may be used, or is susceptible of being used, for voyage into Cuban territorial waters". Translation: If the "authorities" believe for any reason that you are THINKING about or are able to visit Cuba, you loose your boat. Yup...the authorities are now MIND READERS. And once they read your mind they act accordingly. I would venture to say that ANY boat is "susceptible of being used to visit Cuba, wouldn't you? Don't believe it? Here's it is striaght from the horses ass...err...mouth http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...040226-11.html Welcome to 1984 folks. Same thing has been used for years in the name of drug and prostitution enforcement. |
| All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:39 AM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com