Jim Donohue wrote:
And anyone who would teach a sailor to navigate without GPS is not only
incompetent as a navigation teacher but is willing to risk the well being of
another for some hobbyist view of the skill.


Gawd, what a stupid statement! Are you trying to replace Jax as our
resident idiot?

As soon as your student hits limited visibility she becomes a hazard to
herself and others.

And you would send a novice out in the fog because they know how to turn
on a GPS?

The bottom line is that a large number of sailors never go venture
outside of a relatively protected area. For example, hundreds of
sailors sail around Boston Harbor every day. I doubt that many of them
even have a GPS on board, but I hope they know the basics of piloting.

Your ludicrous statements only make sense if the student is headed out
tomorrow on their own boat; in reality most will not leave the harbor on
their own for a few years.




Jim Donohue

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:51:28 -0800, "Jim Donohue"

said:


Not my experience. I'm teaching navigation to my 26 year old daughter,
and
she's thrilled with how she can verify our position with an LOP and look
at
her DR plot and correlate it to the objects she sees. We have a LORAN
aboard, but so far it hasn't interested her.

Ohh stop...what utter nonsense. Interesting navigation occurs when you
can't see anything and there is nothing for the radar to see. Then do
that
for 6 days. Then end up within 10 meters of where you aimed for.

Whatta jerk.

Interesting navigation is in the eye of the beholder, and to someone who
hasn't done it before it is as I described.


On what does she base her LOP? Wishful thinking? A voice in her brain?
For the sake of rationale behavior teach her how to use the real tools
than
you can teach her the hobby backups if she cares.

Same thing people doing piloting have been basing an LOP on for years.
Bearing taken with the hand bearing compass.

What seems to be your problem, Jim, wrong time of the month?

Only a fool would teach someone to navigate by GPS alone.