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JAXAshby
 
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now, now dougies. keep in mind it was *you* who felt that 12.8 volts was a
gross inaccurate figure. you wanted more accuracy and you got it. now you
feel yourself confused by all those numbers. try this, dougies, think of a 12
volt battery as putting "just a little more than " 12 volts. you will be close
enough.

From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom
Date: 12/13/2004 9:21 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

idiot.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
you are correct, of course dougies. using 12.8 volts as the approximate
voltage of a battery is just plain irresponsible. The correct number is
12.7835476589378 volts at 16.4797546429072 degrees centigrade and rel
humity at
57.00004748470008%, the first number plus/minus 0.56983456, the second
plus/minus 2.237899984 and the third plus/minus 40%.

dougies, you powerboters who are terrified of winds above 12 knots slay
me.

From: "Doug Dotson"
AMcom
Date: 12/13/2004 8:19 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

All well spoken and right on the money. Incidently, defining AMPS
as related to 12.8 volts is silly. 12.8 volt is only rarely the actual
voltage
supplied.

Doug
s/v Callista

"James" wrote in message
m...
JAXAshby wrote:

rational discussion is not possible with you, dog pile, for if one says
z
pickup truck is a Chevy, *you* insist there is no such thing. the
closest
thing is a Chevrolet utulity vehicle and everyone knows that is not the
same.

fumb duck you are.

the rest of us, dog pile, will continue to use the common usage.


From: Jeff Morris
Date: 12/13/2004
10:19
AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Thanks for a good laugh, jaxie! Even when you try to "clarify" and
give
the "formal definition" you get it backwards! What a putz!

Its gratifying to see that you have so completely devoted yourself to
your craft. Every village needs an idiot, and you have perfected the
art!


JAXAshby wrote:

follow closely, dougies, one step at time.
"amps" when used in the context of boating means "amps used per hour
at

12.8

volts".











I've browsed this newsgroup for a quite while. It has been most
informative.... most of the time.

However, there is one thing that truly pollutes the newsgroup and
renders
information less than usefull.

In a nutshell, has anyone else noticed that Jaxashby behaves like a
sociopath without a clue here? I am being quite serious.

Jax spouts off rudely, demonstrates a callous disregard for others and
offers an inflated, remarkably misplaced, egocentric opinion of himself.
Seems he rarely has a clue what the f#ck he is talking about either.

Somebody pointed out (correctly) that Amp HOURS is a measure of battery
capacity and JAX begins feels it is his mission to begin his response
with
the statement:

"dougies, are you related to dog pile jeffies? you talk just as stew
ped.
Ask jeffie's wife to help you out here. follow closely, dougies, one
step
at time."

These comments by Jax are deliberately intended to be rude and insulting
right off the bat. I've noticed (as no doubt everyone else has) that
virutally EVERY post that Jax makes is rude and insulting. If you gentle
reader doubt that fact, go back and look. Just look at his past posts.
No
kidding.

Seriously Jax, you need professional help. You are behaving like a
sociopath. Not that you'd have the sense to seek it but you should.

Here's a hint Jax... your rudeness is just a lame attempt at feeding
your
sad and shallow ego. Sociopaths do that all the time. Your ego is in the
toilet because you are clueless and it shows. No other reason. Ask
yourself why do you continually attempt to inflate your ego at the
expense
of others? Ever wonder why you are such a rude little M.F.? Look up
Sociopath online. Seriously.

Following that rude opening line Jax then adds :

"amps" when used in the context of boating means "amps used per hour at
12.8 volts"

Let's correct Jax's OBVIOUS mis-statement right here and now.

AMPS in the context of boating means AMPS JAX, just like it does
everywhere else.

In the world of BOATING (as in every other industry) AMPS is a measure
of
current flow. AMPS is used when you want to know how much current is
available for, or is being drawn by a device.

AMP HOURS is a measure of how many AMPS can be delivered per HOUR. In
other words CAPACITY.

To suggest that somehow the BASICS of electrical theory and convention
differ once electrical devices like batteries are deployed on boats is
just plain stupid and frankly, quite irrational. To repeat for Jax: AMPS
in the context of boating means AMPS JAX, just like it does everywhere
else.

No one in ANY industry (including boating) leaps to the foolish
assumption
that someone describing AMPS actually meant "Amps used per hour at 12.8
volts." To suggest otherwise demonstrates a serious lack of
understanding
of the basics of electricity. Someone that clueless has no business
offering an opinion here Jax. Not that being clueless has ever stopped
you
before.

It's truly a pity that a worthwhile newsgroup is infected with a dung
beetle like Jax. It pollutes it, and renders it much more difficult to
sift through the grabage he spews. Even filtering him doesn't help, as
the
responses (corrections) to his useless posts still filter through.

Sad really. Fortunately everyone can see by his posts, what and who he
is.
This (hopefully) makes it obvious that people should ignore his bad
advice.

Wouldn't it be nice if Jax found a new interest and moved on to infect
some other newsgroup instead? We can all dream.




















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Doug Dotson
 
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idiot.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
now, now dougies. keep in mind it was *you* who felt that 12.8 volts was
a
gross inaccurate figure. you wanted more accuracy and you got it. now
you
feel yourself confused by all those numbers. try this, dougies, think of
a 12
volt battery as putting "just a little more than " 12 volts. you will be
close
enough.

From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom
Date: 12/13/2004 9:21 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

idiot.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
you are correct, of course dougies. using 12.8 volts as the approximate
voltage of a battery is just plain irresponsible. The correct number is
12.7835476589378 volts at 16.4797546429072 degrees centigrade and rel
humity at
57.00004748470008%, the first number plus/minus 0.56983456, the second
plus/minus 2.237899984 and the third plus/minus 40%.

dougies, you powerboters who are terrified of winds above 12 knots slay
me.

From: "Doug Dotson"
AMcom
Date: 12/13/2004 8:19 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

All well spoken and right on the money. Incidently, defining AMPS
as related to 12.8 volts is silly. 12.8 volt is only rarely the actual
voltage
supplied.

Doug
s/v Callista

"James" wrote in message
om...
JAXAshby wrote:

rational discussion is not possible with you, dog pile, for if one
says
z
pickup truck is a Chevy, *you* insist there is no such thing. the
closest
thing is a Chevrolet utulity vehicle and everyone knows that is not
the
same.

fumb duck you are.

the rest of us, dog pile, will continue to use the common usage.


From: Jeff Morris
Date: 12/13/2004
10:19
AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Thanks for a good laugh, jaxie! Even when you try to "clarify" and
give
the "formal definition" you get it backwards! What a putz!

Its gratifying to see that you have so completely devoted yourself to
your craft. Every village needs an idiot, and you have perfected the
art!


JAXAshby wrote:

follow closely, dougies, one step at time.
"amps" when used in the context of boating means "amps used per
hour
at

12.8

volts".











I've browsed this newsgroup for a quite while. It has been most
informative.... most of the time.

However, there is one thing that truly pollutes the newsgroup and
renders
information less than usefull.

In a nutshell, has anyone else noticed that Jaxashby behaves like a
sociopath without a clue here? I am being quite serious.

Jax spouts off rudely, demonstrates a callous disregard for others and
offers an inflated, remarkably misplaced, egocentric opinion of
himself.
Seems he rarely has a clue what the f#ck he is talking about either.

Somebody pointed out (correctly) that Amp HOURS is a measure of
battery
capacity and JAX begins feels it is his mission to begin his response
with
the statement:

"dougies, are you related to dog pile jeffies? you talk just as stew
ped.
Ask jeffie's wife to help you out here. follow closely, dougies, one
step
at time."

These comments by Jax are deliberately intended to be rude and
insulting
right off the bat. I've noticed (as no doubt everyone else has) that
virutally EVERY post that Jax makes is rude and insulting. If you
gentle
reader doubt that fact, go back and look. Just look at his past posts.
No
kidding.

Seriously Jax, you need professional help. You are behaving like a
sociopath. Not that you'd have the sense to seek it but you should.

Here's a hint Jax... your rudeness is just a lame attempt at feeding
your
sad and shallow ego. Sociopaths do that all the time. Your ego is in
the
toilet because you are clueless and it shows. No other reason. Ask
yourself why do you continually attempt to inflate your ego at the
expense
of others? Ever wonder why you are such a rude little M.F.? Look up
Sociopath online. Seriously.

Following that rude opening line Jax then adds :

"amps" when used in the context of boating means "amps used per hour
at
12.8 volts"

Let's correct Jax's OBVIOUS mis-statement right here and now.

AMPS in the context of boating means AMPS JAX, just like it does
everywhere else.

In the world of BOATING (as in every other industry) AMPS is a measure
of
current flow. AMPS is used when you want to know how much current is
available for, or is being drawn by a device.

AMP HOURS is a measure of how many AMPS can be delivered per HOUR. In
other words CAPACITY.

To suggest that somehow the BASICS of electrical theory and convention
differ once electrical devices like batteries are deployed on boats is
just plain stupid and frankly, quite irrational. To repeat for Jax:
AMPS
in the context of boating means AMPS JAX, just like it does everywhere
else.

No one in ANY industry (including boating) leaps to the foolish
assumption
that someone describing AMPS actually meant "Amps used per hour at
12.8
volts." To suggest otherwise demonstrates a serious lack of
understanding
of the basics of electricity. Someone that clueless has no business
offering an opinion here Jax. Not that being clueless has ever stopped
you
before.

It's truly a pity that a worthwhile newsgroup is infected with a dung
beetle like Jax. It pollutes it, and renders it much more difficult to
sift through the grabage he spews. Even filtering him doesn't help, as
the
responses (corrections) to his useless posts still filter through.

Sad really. Fortunately everyone can see by his posts, what and who he
is.
This (hopefully) makes it obvious that people should ignore his bad
advice.

Wouldn't it be nice if Jax found a new interest and moved on to infect
some other newsgroup instead? We can all dream.






















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Courtney Thomas
 
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Doug,

What is the MSRP on the Thermo-90 ?

Thanks,
Courtney



DSK wrote:

Courtney Thomas wrote:

I'm told that there are at least 2 types of boat heater, both of which
burn diesel; one using a blower to disperse the heat and the other
heating a circulating liquid.

What are the experiences of the group with both, please ?



We installed a Webasto Thermo-90 coolant type heating system and are
very happy with it.

http://www.webasto.us/press/en/am_tr...aters_821.html

The unit itself is amazingly compact, with a built in circulating pump,
combustion air fan, and control circuitry. I don't know if the system
overall is any more compact or easier to route than a forced air system;
the water piping & it's insualtion & expansion tank along with the heat
exchanger & fan, is quite bulky. With the added wiring & switches, I'm
sure it's more complicated & a bigger job to install.

Ours went on the aft engine room bulkhead where it is possible to access
the unit for maintenance (not that it should need any) and still have it
enclosed.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...42005030smuktF
(plus the next two)

It's extremely quiet, unless you listen for the clicking of the fuel
pump, you can't tell it's running. The heat exchanger fans are not that
quiet but they are not obtrusively noisy... we leave the forward heater
fan running on low all night. The system heats up in about 10 minutes
and is putting out good warm air in 5 ~ 6 min. The furnace unit draws
between 1 and 7 AH, the fans from 0.3 to 5; so we could run the unit all
night on batteries when anchored out.

I see a few advantages to the coolant type system. It's a bit more
efficient. The heaters can be installed in a wide variety of places...
we have 5... so we can have the heat on full in the head, for example,
and only a little warmth in the aft cabin. Ours is not (yet)
cross-connected to the engine to run on engine heat, but I also think it
would be a big advantage to be able to heat the engine up to operating
temp more often over the winter. BTW the mfg'er does not recommend this
cross connect as it can have flow problems not to mention air pockets or
leaks that would not damage the furnace but would be disastrous for the
engine.

Hope this helps.

Fresh Breezes
Doug King




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s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619

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Doug Dotson
 
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I-D-I-O-T doesn't have any numbers in it.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
*I* am an idiot, dougies? how can you say that. After all, it was you
who got
confused by all those numbers.

From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom
Date: 12/13/2004 10:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

idiot.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
now, now dougies. keep in mind it was *you* who felt that 12.8 volts
was
a
gross inaccurate figure. you wanted more accuracy and you got it. now
you
feel yourself confused by all those numbers. try this, dougies, think
of
a 12
volt battery as putting "just a little more than " 12 volts. you will
be
close
enough.

From: "Doug Dotson"
AMcom
Date: 12/13/2004 9:21 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

idiot.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
you are correct, of course dougies. using 12.8 volts as the
approximate
voltage of a battery is just plain irresponsible. The correct number
is
12.7835476589378 volts at 16.4797546429072 degrees centigrade and rel
humity at
57.00004748470008%, the first number plus/minus 0.56983456, the second
plus/minus 2.237899984 and the third plus/minus 40%.

dougies, you powerboters who are terrified of winds above 12 knots
slay
me.

From: "Doug Dotson"
AMcom
Date: 12/13/2004 8:19 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

All well spoken and right on the money. Incidently, defining AMPS
as related to 12.8 volts is silly. 12.8 volt is only rarely the actual
voltage
supplied.

Doug
s/v Callista

"James" wrote in message
.com...
JAXAshby wrote:

rational discussion is not possible with you, dog pile, for if one
says
z
pickup truck is a Chevy, *you* insist there is no such thing. the
closest
thing is a Chevrolet utulity vehicle and everyone knows that is not
the
same.

fumb duck you are.

the rest of us, dog pile, will continue to use the common usage.


From: Jeff Morris
Date: 12/13/2004
10:19
AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Thanks for a good laugh, jaxie! Even when you try to "clarify" and
give
the "formal definition" you get it backwards! What a putz!

Its gratifying to see that you have so completely devoted yourself
to
your craft. Every village needs an idiot, and you have perfected
the
art!


JAXAshby wrote:

follow closely, dougies, one step at time.
"amps" when used in the context of boating means "amps used per
hour
at

12.8

volts".











I've browsed this newsgroup for a quite while. It has been most
informative.... most of the time.

However, there is one thing that truly pollutes the newsgroup and
renders
information less than usefull.

In a nutshell, has anyone else noticed that Jaxashby behaves like a
sociopath without a clue here? I am being quite serious.

Jax spouts off rudely, demonstrates a callous disregard for others
and
offers an inflated, remarkably misplaced, egocentric opinion of
himself.
Seems he rarely has a clue what the f#ck he is talking about either.

Somebody pointed out (correctly) that Amp HOURS is a measure of
battery
capacity and JAX begins feels it is his mission to begin his
response
with
the statement:

"dougies, are you related to dog pile jeffies? you talk just as
stew
ped.
Ask jeffie's wife to help you out here. follow closely, dougies,
one
step
at time."

These comments by Jax are deliberately intended to be rude and
insulting
right off the bat. I've noticed (as no doubt everyone else has) that
virutally EVERY post that Jax makes is rude and insulting. If you
gentle
reader doubt that fact, go back and look. Just look at his past
posts.
No
kidding.

Seriously Jax, you need professional help. You are behaving like a
sociopath. Not that you'd have the sense to seek it but you should.

Here's a hint Jax... your rudeness is just a lame attempt at feeding
your
sad and shallow ego. Sociopaths do that all the time. Your ego is in
the
toilet because you are clueless and it shows. No other reason. Ask
yourself why do you continually attempt to inflate your ego at the
expense
of others? Ever wonder why you are such a rude little M.F.? Look up
Sociopath online. Seriously.

Following that rude opening line Jax then adds :

"amps" when used in the context of boating means "amps used per hour
at
12.8 volts"

Let's correct Jax's OBVIOUS mis-statement right here and now.

AMPS in the context of boating means AMPS JAX, just like it does
everywhere else.

In the world of BOATING (as in every other industry) AMPS is a
measure
of
current flow. AMPS is used when you want to know how much current is
available for, or is being drawn by a device.

AMP HOURS is a measure of how many AMPS can be delivered per HOUR.
In
other words CAPACITY.

To suggest that somehow the BASICS of electrical theory and
convention
differ once electrical devices like batteries are deployed on boats
is
just plain stupid and frankly, quite irrational. To repeat for Jax:
AMPS
in the context of boating means AMPS JAX, just like it does
everywhere
else.

No one in ANY industry (including boating) leaps to the foolish
assumption
that someone describing AMPS actually meant "Amps used per hour at
12.8
volts." To suggest otherwise demonstrates a serious lack of
understanding
of the basics of electricity. Someone that clueless has no business
offering an opinion here Jax. Not that being clueless has ever
stopped
you
before.

It's truly a pity that a worthwhile newsgroup is infected with a
dung
beetle like Jax. It pollutes it, and renders it much more difficult
to
sift through the grabage he spews. Even filtering him doesn't help,
as
the
responses (corrections) to his useless posts still filter through.

Sad really. Fortunately everyone can see by his posts, what and who
he
is.
This (hopefully) makes it obvious that people should ignore his bad
advice.

Wouldn't it be nice if Jax found a new interest and moved on to
infect
some other newsgroup instead? We can all dream.
































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JAXAshby
 
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but, b - a - t - t - e - r - y v - o - l - t - a - g - e does. check it
out, dougies. it really is that way.

From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom
Date: 12/13/2004 11:03 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

I-D-I-O-T doesn't have any numbers in it.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
*I* am an idiot, dougies? how can you say that. After all, it was you
who got
confused by all those numbers.

From: "Doug Dotson"
AMcom
Date: 12/13/2004 10:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

idiot.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
now, now dougies. keep in mind it was *you* who felt that 12.8 volts
was
a
gross inaccurate figure. you wanted more accuracy and you got it. now
you
feel yourself confused by all those numbers. try this, dougies, think
of
a 12
volt battery as putting "just a little more than " 12 volts. you will
be
close
enough.

From: "Doug Dotson"
AMcom
Date: 12/13/2004 9:21 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

idiot.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
you are correct, of course dougies. using 12.8 volts as the
approximate
voltage of a battery is just plain irresponsible. The correct number
is
12.7835476589378 volts at 16.4797546429072 degrees centigrade and rel
humity at
57.00004748470008%, the first number plus/minus 0.56983456, the second
plus/minus 2.237899984 and the third plus/minus 40%.

dougies, you powerboters who are terrified of winds above 12 knots
slay
me.

From: "Doug Dotson"
AMcom
Date: 12/13/2004 8:19 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

All well spoken and right on the money. Incidently, defining AMPS
as related to 12.8 volts is silly. 12.8 volt is only rarely the actual
voltage
supplied.

Doug
s/v Callista

"James" wrote in message
l.com...
JAXAshby wrote:

rational discussion is not possible with you, dog pile, for if one
says
z
pickup truck is a Chevy, *you* insist there is no such thing. the
closest
thing is a Chevrolet utulity vehicle and everyone knows that is not
the
same.

fumb duck you are.

the rest of us, dog pile, will continue to use the common usage.


From: Jeff Morris
Date: 12/13/2004
10:19
AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Thanks for a good laugh, jaxie! Even when you try to "clarify" and
give
the "formal definition" you get it backwards! What a putz!

Its gratifying to see that you have so completely devoted yourself
to
your craft. Every village needs an idiot, and you have perfected
the
art!


JAXAshby wrote:

follow closely, dougies, one step at time.
"amps" when used in the context of boating means "amps used per
hour
at

12.8

volts".











I've browsed this newsgroup for a quite while. It has been most
informative.... most of the time.

However, there is one thing that truly pollutes the newsgroup and
renders
information less than usefull.

In a nutshell, has anyone else noticed that Jaxashby behaves like a
sociopath without a clue here? I am being quite serious.

Jax spouts off rudely, demonstrates a callous disregard for others
and
offers an inflated, remarkably misplaced, egocentric opinion of
himself.
Seems he rarely has a clue what the f#ck he is talking about either.

Somebody pointed out (correctly) that Amp HOURS is a measure of
battery
capacity and JAX begins feels it is his mission to begin his
response
with
the statement:

"dougies, are you related to dog pile jeffies? you talk just as
stew
ped.
Ask jeffie's wife to help you out here. follow closely, dougies,
one
step
at time."

These comments by Jax are deliberately intended to be rude and
insulting
right off the bat. I've noticed (as no doubt everyone else has) that
virutally EVERY post that Jax makes is rude and insulting. If you
gentle
reader doubt that fact, go back and look. Just look at his past
posts.
No
kidding.

Seriously Jax, you need professional help. You are behaving like a
sociopath. Not that you'd have the sense to seek it but you should.

Here's a hint Jax... your rudeness is just a lame attempt at feeding
your
sad and shallow ego. Sociopaths do that all the time. Your ego is in
the
toilet because you are clueless and it shows. No other reason. Ask
yourself why do you continually attempt to inflate your ego at the
expense
of others? Ever wonder why you are such a rude little M.F.? Look up
Sociopath online. Seriously.

Following that rude opening line Jax then adds :

"amps" when used in the context of boating means "amps used per hour
at
12.8 volts"

Let's correct Jax's OBVIOUS mis-statement right here and now.

AMPS in the context of boating means AMPS JAX, just like it does
everywhere else.

In the world of BOATING (as in every other industry) AMPS is a
measure
of
current flow. AMPS is used when you want to know how much current is
available for, or is being drawn by a device.

AMP HOURS is a measure of how many AMPS can be delivered per HOUR.
In
other words CAPACITY.

To suggest that somehow the BASICS of electrical theory and
convention
differ once electrical devices like batteries are deployed on boats
is
just plain stupid and frankly, quite irrational. To repeat for Jax:
AMPS
in the context of boating means AMPS JAX, just like it does
everywhere
else.

No one in ANY industry (including boating) leaps to the foolish
assumption
that someone describing AMPS actually meant "Amps used per hour at
12.8
volts." To suggest otherwise demonstrates a serious lack of
understanding
of the basics of electricity. Someone that clueless has no business
offering an opinion here Jax. Not that being clueless has ever
stopped
you
before.

It's truly a pity that a worthwhile newsgroup is infected with a
dung
beetle like Jax. It pollutes it, and renders it much more difficult
to
sift through the grabage he spews. Even filtering him doesn't help,
as
the
responses (corrections) to his useless posts still filter through.

Sad really. Fortunately everyone can see by his posts, what and who
he
is.
This (hopefully) makes it obvious that people should ignore his bad
advice.

Wouldn't it be nice if Jax found a new interest and moved on to
infect
some other newsgroup instead? We can all dream.










































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A quick search of some shops here indicates that the cost is
approximately 1300$ these days. I don't know of the availability of
Walls products outside scandinavia, though.

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Just another note: this particular model runs on kerosene, not diesel.

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Welcome to our resident troll....

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