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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 17:25:47 -0500, rhys wrote:
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:23:31 -0500, "Doug Dotson" wrote: I have no use for the little propane bottles. I do. I use 'em (the green Coleman 1 litre bottles) on my rail BBQ. Good for about five meals. The galley stove is a converted Kenyon Homestrand using barbeque side burners (10,000 BTU) and outside propane. Can you explain more? That sounds interesting. TIA Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC Let's Put the XXX back in Xmas |
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:50:56 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
wrote: A bulk tank is much more economical, no disposal issues and no storage issues other than those associated with any hazardous material on a boat. One liter bottles cost about 4 to 5 times as much as bulk. I understand, but my usage is very low at the moment and I will have to get a different regulator for the Force 10 to Y-connect into the larger propane tank (also on the rail at gunwale level as I can't easily install a propane locker there). I have the rest of the bits and pieces, including a propane and gasoline bilge sniffer and a solenoid valve with remote shut-off. Now I have to put it together. I finally got the tarp and frame up yesterday, so now I have to decide whether this winter's project (in addition to replacing a troublesome exhaust system) is the propane refit or a portlight replacement. Man, I'm learning a lot about boat repair. R. |
And your comments about the small bottles had nothing to do with
my post you replied to. So give it a rest! "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... you knew that, but the guy asking the question wasn't asking about that. pay attention, Forrest. From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom Date: 12/9/2004 5:50 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: A bulk tank is much more economical, no disposal issues and no storage issues other than those associated with any hazardous material on a boat. One liter bottles cost about 4 to 5 times as much as bulk. Doug s/v Callista "rhys" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:23:31 -0500, "Doug Dotson" wrote: I have no use for the little propane bottles. I do. I use 'em (the green Coleman 1 litre bottles) on my rail BBQ. Good for about five meals. The galley stove is a converted Kenyon Homestrand using barbeque side burners (10,000 BTU) and outside propane. R. |
No different regulator in my experience. I run a standard off the shelf
hose from a bulk tank to the regulator on the BBW. The hose threads right into the fitting that normally accepts the 1 lb bottles. It is intended to allow a bulk bottle to be used in place of the small bottles. Couple of more comments below. Doug "rhys" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:50:56 -0500, "Doug Dotson" wrote: A bulk tank is much more economical, no disposal issues and no storage issues other than those associated with any hazardous material on a boat. One liter bottles cost about 4 to 5 times as much as bulk. I understand, but my usage is very low at the moment and I will have to get a different regulator for the Force 10 to Y-connect into the larger propane tank (also on the rail at gunwale level as I can't easily install a propane locker there). Don't necessarily need a locker. Many folks keep a 10 lb bottle up on the deck strapped to a stantion. On my previous boat I kept the bottle in the anchor locker since it was isolated from the boat and had a drain that would allow any leaked gas to drain. I have the rest of the bits and pieces, including a propane and gasoline bilge sniffer and a solenoid valve with remote shut-off. That's good. Now I have to put it together. I finally got the tarp and frame up yesterday, so now I have to decide whether this winter's project (in addition to replacing a troublesome exhaust system) is the propane refit or a portlight replacement. I'd do the portlight replacement first. Man, I'm learning a lot about boat repair. Welcome to the brotherhood of boatwork :) R. |
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:46:11 -0500, rhys wrote:
I do. I use 'em (the green Coleman 1 litre bottles) on my rail BBQ. Good for about five meals. The galley stove is a converted Kenyon Homestrand using barbeque side burners (10,000 BTU) and outside propane. Can you explain more? That sounds interesting. TIA Which bit? The Coleman bottle on the rail BBQ or the alcohol stove-to-propane refit? For the latter, I used essentially barbeque parts and pressure-ready refrigeration hose mated with flange-fitted copper tubing running to the outside via a hole punched into the lazarette..there's a solenoid shut-off and a propane bilge sniffer in that mix, too. I follow essentially the same technique used by a fellow who still posts here whose name I can't recall, but who I think had a Pearson Triton 28 (?) and had a photo-heavy website showing a number of good boat systems ideas. He shows a bullet-proof propane installation, but there are many safe ways to do this job. I have all the pieces, but haven't finished the job due to more pertinent engine issues, now close to resolution. For onboard cooking, I use a Coleman two-burner camp stove on a plank athwart the cockpit for boiling pots and stews, and a Force 10 BBQ on the rail for grilling. It was the converted Kenyon with 10,000-BTU burners that caught my eye. But your last leaves me puzzled. I don't know what the galley stove does if you do your cooking outsied. Thanks Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC Let's Put the XXX back in Xmas |
dougie, it is Friday. you are at least three days late. Does that happen to
you often? And your comments about the small bottles had nothing to do with my post you replied to. So give it a rest! "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... you knew that, but the guy asking the question wasn't asking about that. pay attention, Forrest. From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom Date: 12/9/2004 5:50 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: A bulk tank is much more economical, no disposal issues and no storage issues other than those associated with any hazardous material on a boat. One liter bottles cost about 4 to 5 times as much as bulk. Doug s/v Callista "rhys" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:23:31 -0500, "Doug Dotson" wrote: I have no use for the little propane bottles. I do. I use 'em (the green Coleman 1 litre bottles) on my rail BBQ. Good for about five meals. The galley stove is a converted Kenyon Homestrand using barbeque side burners (10,000 BTU) and outside propane. R. |
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:46:35 -0500, Rodney Myrvaagnes
wrote: It was the converted Kenyon with 10,000-BTU burners that caught my eye. But your last leaves me puzzled. I don't know what the galley stove does if you do your cooking outsied. It does nothing at the moment because I still have to run the copper, do the flanges and figure out where I want to put the hole to the outside. The rest is done, and as the sensor system is active (it sure notices spilled gasoline...) and all the parts are on board, it's just a matter of getting it done. So I suppose were I a person who liked to push his luck, I could run the camp stove in the galley, because the sensor would whine if I leaked propane into the bilge...but I prefer the fresh air of the cockpit anyway. If I drop something, I can rinse it down the drains G Lot of illness and work took time out of my life's vocation of boat repair and resurrection this year...alas. That's why it's so planned out and yet so not done. R. |
Be careful about running copper. It is subject to fatigue due to
vibration. Our surveyor made us remove all of it and replace it with approved rubber hose. Doug s/v Callista "rhys" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:46:35 -0500, Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote: It was the converted Kenyon with 10,000-BTU burners that caught my eye. But your last leaves me puzzled. I don't know what the galley stove does if you do your cooking outsied. It does nothing at the moment because I still have to run the copper, do the flanges and figure out where I want to put the hole to the outside. The rest is done, and as the sensor system is active (it sure notices spilled gasoline...) and all the parts are on board, it's just a matter of getting it done. So I suppose were I a person who liked to push his luck, I could run the camp stove in the galley, because the sensor would whine if I leaked propane into the bilge...but I prefer the fresh air of the cockpit anyway. If I drop something, I can rinse it down the drains G Lot of illness and work took time out of my life's vocation of boat repair and resurrection this year...alas. That's why it's so planned out and yet so not done. R. |
your surveyor was wrong. Copper is fine. What is not fine is unsupported runs
of copper. Be careful about running copper. It is subject to fatigue due to vibration. Our surveyor made us remove all of it and replace it with approved rubber hose. Doug s/v Callista "rhys" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:46:35 -0500, Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote: It was the converted Kenyon with 10,000-BTU burners that caught my eye. But your last leaves me puzzled. I don't know what the galley stove does if you do your cooking outsied. It does nothing at the moment because I still have to run the copper, do the flanges and figure out where I want to put the hole to the outside. The rest is done, and as the sensor system is active (it sure notices spilled gasoline...) and all the parts are on board, it's just a matter of getting it done. So I suppose were I a person who liked to push his luck, I could run the camp stove in the galley, because the sensor would whine if I leaked propane into the bilge...but I prefer the fresh air of the cockpit anyway. If I drop something, I can rinse it down the drains G Lot of illness and work took time out of my life's vocation of boat repair and resurrection this year...alas. That's why it's so planned out and yet so not done. R. |
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