propane stoves
 

OK, I know the dangers of propane, and I have been using it for years
with no problem. I do not store propane in the cabin, nor do I leave it
in the cabin overnight. I use a stainless coleman type stove and love
it. I have external fuel lockers and leave the small propane cly there.
I can get 10-15 days out of one cly but all my cooking/coffee only
lasts 5 mins. I heat can goods and boil water. Nothing fancy.
My question is am I the only one? Does anyone else here use propane?
Alcohol is a hassel and slower.
Lee308

"Lee308" writes:

My question is am I the only one?

No.

Does anyone else here use propane?

Yes.

Alcohol is a hassel and slower.

I drink alcohol, not heat my food with it.

Lew

propane camping stoves have *substantially* higher heat output than propane
marine stoves, which have about the same heat output per minute as an Origo
stove.

FWIW, a golf ball size clump of C-4 plastic explosive burned under a pot will
boil a liter of water in about 30 seconds, but I wouldn't recommend as a marine
stove.

OK, I know the dangers of propane, and I have been using it for years
with no problem. I do not store propane in the cabin, nor do I leave it
in the cabin overnight. I use a stainless coleman type stove and love
it. I have external fuel lockers and leave the small propane cly there.
I can get 10-15 days out of one cly but all my cooking/coffee only
lasts 5 mins. I heat can goods and boil water. Nothing fancy.
My question is am I the only one? Does anyone else here use propane?
Alcohol is a hassel and slower.
Lee308

Propane rules! Have used it for years with absolutely no
problems. So have countless friends. Most that poopoo it
are Chicken Little types afraid of their own shadows.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Lee308" wrote in message
oups.com...
OK, I know the dangers of propane, and I have been using it for years
with no problem. I do not store propane in the cabin, nor do I leave it
in the cabin overnight. I use a stainless coleman type stove and love
it. I have external fuel lockers and leave the small propane cly there.
I can get 10-15 days out of one cly but all my cooking/coffee only
lasts 5 mins. I heat can goods and boil water. Nothing fancy.
My question is am I the only one? Does anyone else here use propane?
Alcohol is a hassel and slower.
Lee308

You know, you may be on to something, Hmmm,, wonder if it works wet? I
wonder if it can be made non explosive so it could be sold at 7-11 type
stores, different burn rates, one for the oven, the other for boiling
water, another for the grill.
If you get bored on that crossing, make little animals out of
it....:-P
Can you tell I'm not getting enough sleep?
Lee308
JAXAshby wrote:
propane camping stoves have *substantially* higher heat output than
propane
marine stoves, which have about the same heat output per minute as an
Origo
stove.

FWIW, a golf ball size clump of C-4 plastic explosive burned under a
pot will
boil a liter of water in about 30 seconds, but I wouldn't recommend
as a marine
stove.
(snip)

On 8 Dec 2004 18:09:21 -0800,
Lee308 wrote:
OK, I know the dangers of propane, and I have been using it for years
with no problem. I do not store propane in the cabin, nor do I leave
it in the cabin overnight. I use a stainless coleman type stove and
love it. I have external fuel lockers and leave the small propane cly
there. I can get 10-15 days out of one cly but all my cooking/coffee
only lasts 5 mins. I heat can goods and boil water. Nothing fancy.
My question is am I the only one? Does anyone else here use propane?
Alcohol is a hassel and slower.
Lee308


We have propane cooker, two of the small (approx 2gal) tanks outside,
with one hooked to the cooker (via the electronic shut off valve) and
one on the BBQ. We don't leave the valve on the tank open, open it when
we cook. Have a propane sniffer, the works. Paranoid is good in this
one.




--
Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
It is often the case that the man who can't tell a lie thinks he is the best
judge of one.
-- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"

On 9 Dec 2004 01:43:57 -0800,
wrote:
You know, you may be on to something, Hmmm,, wonder if it works wet? I
wonder if it can be made non explosive so it could be sold at 7-11 type
stores, different burn rates, one for the oven, the other for boiling
water, another for the grill.
If you get bored on that crossing, make little animals out of
it....:-P
Can you tell I'm not getting enough sleep?
Lee308

it works wet, it works underwater, *but* (you knew this was coming) if
you compress it, by say, stomping on it to put it out, or such, it may
detonate. What you are doing is a slow burn, and the stuff is *mostly*
safe that way. Mostly.

Doubt it would boil a liter of water in 30sec, that seems more heat than
I recall from combustion of C4, but it does burn about as hot as those
solid fuel tabs you can get at camping stores. (chemically, it's not far
off of the triox tabs IIRC)

JAXAshby wrote:
propane camping stoves have *substantially* higher heat output than
propane
marine stoves, which have about the same heat output per minute as an
Origo
stove.

FWIW, a golf ball size clump of C-4 plastic explosive burned under a
pot will
boil a liter of water in about 30 seconds, but I wouldn't recommend
as a marine
stove.
(snip)



--
Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Q: What's a WASP's idea of open-mindedness?
A: Dating a Canadian.

many times I boiled a 24 oz canteen cup of water to make c-rat coffee and do it
about 20 - 25 seconds. That stuff burns way too hot to cook food with.

it works wet, it works underwater, *but* (you knew this was coming) if
you compress it, by say, stomping on it to put it out, or such, it may
detonate. What you are doing is a slow burn, and the stuff is *mostly*
safe that way. Mostly.

Doubt it would boil a liter of water in 30sec, that seems more heat than
I recall from combustion of C4, but it does burn about as hot as those
solid fuel tabs you can get at camping stores. (chemically, it's not far
off of the triox tabs IIRC)

JAXAshby wrote:
propane camping stoves have *substantially* higher heat output than
propane
marine stoves, which have about the same heat output per minute as an
Origo
stove.

FWIW, a golf ball size clump of C-4 plastic explosive burned under a
pot will
boil a liter of water in about 30 seconds, but I wouldn't recommend
as a marine
stove.
(snip)



--
Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Q: What's a WASP's idea of open-mindedness?
A: Dating a Canadian.

propane cylinders should not be store in the cabin. some leak, not all but
some leak.

Propane rules! Have used it for years with absolutely no
problems. So have countless friends. Most that poopoo it
are Chicken Little types afraid of their own shadows.

I have no use for the little propane bottles.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
propane cylinders should not be store in the cabin. some leak, not all
but
some leak.

Propane rules! Have used it for years with absolutely no
problems. So have countless friends. Most that poopoo it
are Chicken Little types afraid of their own shadows.

I have no use for the little propane bottles.

doug, the guy was talking about a camping stove and storing the propane in the
cabin.

Not true of the camp stove (Coleman) and marine stove (Force 10)
we have. The marine stove puts out every bit as much heat as the
camp stove. Matter of fact, I think the marine stove runs a bit hotter
especially when using the large burner. Now, a Coleman liquid fuel stove is
a different animal. It put out enough heat to smelt iron.

Doug
s/v Callista

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
propane camping stoves have *substantially* higher heat output than
propane
marine stoves, which have about the same heat output per minute as an
Origo
stove.

FWIW, a golf ball size clump of C-4 plastic explosive burned under a pot
will
boil a liter of water in about 30 seconds, but I wouldn't recommend as a
marine
stove.

OK, I know the dangers of propane, and I have been using it for years
with no problem. I do not store propane in the cabin, nor do I leave it
in the cabin overnight. I use a stainless coleman type stove and love
it. I have external fuel lockers and leave the small propane cly there.
I can get 10-15 days out of one cly but all my cooking/coffee only
lasts 5 mins. I heat can goods and boil water. Nothing fancy.
My question is am I the only one? Does anyone else here use propane?
Alcohol is a hassel and slower.
Lee308

Probably, but your comment was in response to my post.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I have no use for the little propane bottles.

doug, the guy was talking about a camping stove and storing the propane in
the
cabin.

then you have a reduced output camping stove.

the rated btu output on a marine propane stove is most usually about 8,000,
while the rated output of an Origo is 7,000. In other words, about the same
capability to heat water.

which means, if the statement was accurate that the camping propane stove
heated water more quickly than the Origo, then it means that person (you?) has
the standard type camping stove, which puts out heat at a rate closer to that
of a home gas stove.

Not true of the camp stove (Coleman) and marine stove (Force 10)
we have. The marine stove puts out every bit as much heat as the
camp stove. Matter of fact, I think the marine stove runs a bit hotter
especially when using the large burner. Now, a Coleman liquid fuel stove is
a different animal. It put out enough heat to smelt iron.

Doug
s/v Callista

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
propane camping stoves have *substantially* higher heat output than
propane
marine stoves, which have about the same heat output per minute as an
Origo
stove.

FWIW, a golf ball size clump of C-4 plastic explosive burned under a pot
will
boil a liter of water in about 30 seconds, but I wouldn't recommend as a
marine
stove.

OK, I know the dangers of propane, and I have been using it for years
with no problem. I do not store propane in the cabin, nor do I leave it
in the cabin overnight. I use a stainless coleman type stove and love
it. I have external fuel lockers and leave the small propane cly there.
I can get 10-15 days out of one cly but all my cooking/coffee only
lasts 5 mins. I heat can goods and boil water. Nothing fancy.
My question is am I the only one? Does anyone else here use propane?
Alcohol is a hassel and slower.
Lee308

True again, but that post came in as a response to my comments about
being very happy with propane, not as a response to the post is was
obviously intended to be.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah, no it wasn't. it was specifically about propane cylinders stored in a
boat's cabin.

Probably, but your comment was in response to my post.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I have no use for the little propane bottles.

doug, the guy was talking about a camping stove and storing the propane
in
the
cabin.

sorry to hear you can't keep two thougts in your head at the same time, doug.

From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom
Date: 12/9/2004 12:00 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

True again, but that post came in as a response to my comments about
being very happy with propane, not as a response to the post is was
obviously intended to be.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah, no it wasn't. it was specifically about propane cylinders stored in a
boat's cabin.

Probably, but your comment was in response to my post.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I have no use for the little propane bottles.

doug, the guy was talking about a camping stove and storing the propane
in
the
cabin.

I only see what the newsreader tells me. Next time reply to the message
that you are responding to.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
sorry to hear you can't keep two thougts in your head at the same time,
doug.

From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom
Date: 12/9/2004 12:00 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

True again, but that post came in as a response to my comments about
being very happy with propane, not as a response to the post is was
obviously intended to be.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah, no it wasn't. it was specifically about propane cylinders stored in
a
boat's cabin.

Probably, but your comment was in response to my post.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I have no use for the little propane bottles.

doug, the guy was talking about a camping stove and storing the
propane
in
the
cabin.

On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:23:31 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

I have no use for the little propane bottles.

I do. I use 'em (the green Coleman 1 litre bottles) on my rail BBQ.
Good for about five meals. The galley stove is a converted Kenyon
Homestrand using barbeque side burners (10,000 BTU) and outside
propane.

R.

I did, dolt.

From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom
Date: 12/9/2004 4:39 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

I only see what the newsreader tells me. Next time reply to the message
that you are responding to.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
sorry to hear you can't keep two thougts in your head at the same time,
doug.

From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom
Date: 12/9/2004 12:00 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

True again, but that post came in as a response to my comments about
being very happy with propane, not as a response to the post is was
obviously intended to be.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah, no it wasn't. it was specifically about propane cylinders stored in
a
boat's cabin.

Probably, but your comment was in response to my post.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I have no use for the little propane bottles.

doug, the guy was talking about a camping stove and storing the
propane
in
the
cabin.

A bulk tank is much more economical, no disposal issues and no storage
issues other than those associated with any hazardous material on a boat.
One liter bottles cost about 4 to 5 times as much as bulk.

Doug
s/v Callista

"rhys" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:23:31 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

I have no use for the little propane bottles.

I do. I use 'em (the green Coleman 1 litre bottles) on my rail BBQ.
Good for about five meals. The galley stove is a converted Kenyon
Homestrand using barbeque side burners (10,000 BTU) and outside
propane.

R.

Did not, did not! So deal with it! End of discusstion, butthead!

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I did, dolt.

From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom
Date: 12/9/2004 4:39 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

I only see what the newsreader tells me. Next time reply to the message
that you are responding to.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
sorry to hear you can't keep two thougts in your head at the same time,
doug.

From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom
Date: 12/9/2004 12:00 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

True again, but that post came in as a response to my comments about
being very happy with propane, not as a response to the post is was
obviously intended to be.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah, no it wasn't. it was specifically about propane cylinders stored
in
a
boat's cabin.

Probably, but your comment was in response to my post.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I have no use for the little propane bottles.

doug, the guy was talking about a camping stove and storing the
propane
in
the
cabin.

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 17:25:47 -0500, rhys wrote:

On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:23:31 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

I have no use for the little propane bottles.

I do. I use 'em (the green Coleman 1 litre bottles) on my rail BBQ.
Good for about five meals. The galley stove is a converted Kenyon
Homestrand using barbeque side burners (10,000 BTU) and outside
propane.

Can you explain more? That sounds interesting.

TIA



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC

Let's Put the XXX back in Xmas

On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:50:56 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

A bulk tank is much more economical, no disposal issues and no storage
issues other than those associated with any hazardous material on a boat.
One liter bottles cost about 4 to 5 times as much as bulk.

I understand, but my usage is very low at the moment and I will have
to get a different regulator for the Force 10 to Y-connect into the
larger propane tank (also on the rail at gunwale level as I can't
easily install a propane locker there).

I have the rest of the bits and pieces, including a propane and
gasoline bilge sniffer and a solenoid valve with remote shut-off.

Now I have to put it together. I finally got the tarp and frame up
yesterday, so now I have to decide whether this winter's project (in
addition to replacing a troublesome exhaust system) is the propane
refit or a portlight replacement.

Man, I'm learning a lot about boat repair.

R.

And your comments about the small bottles had nothing to do with
my post you replied to. So give it a rest!


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
you knew that, but the guy asking the question wasn't asking about that.

pay attention, Forrest.

From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom
Date: 12/9/2004 5:50 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

A bulk tank is much more economical, no disposal issues and no storage
issues other than those associated with any hazardous material on a boat.
One liter bottles cost about 4 to 5 times as much as bulk.

Doug
s/v Callista

"rhys" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:23:31 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

I have no use for the little propane bottles.

I do. I use 'em (the green Coleman 1 litre bottles) on my rail BBQ.
Good for about five meals. The galley stove is a converted Kenyon
Homestrand using barbeque side burners (10,000 BTU) and outside
propane.

R.

No different regulator in my experience. I run a standard off the shelf
hose from a bulk tank to the regulator on the BBW. The hose threads right
into the fitting that normally accepts the 1 lb bottles. It is intended to
allow
a bulk bottle to be used in place of the small bottles.

Couple of more comments below.

Doug

"rhys" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:50:56 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

A bulk tank is much more economical, no disposal issues and no storage
issues other than those associated with any hazardous material on a boat.
One liter bottles cost about 4 to 5 times as much as bulk.

I understand, but my usage is very low at the moment and I will have
to get a different regulator for the Force 10 to Y-connect into the
larger propane tank (also on the rail at gunwale level as I can't
easily install a propane locker there).
Don't necessarily need a locker. Many folks keep a 10 lb bottle up on the
deck strapped to a stantion. On my previous boat I kept the bottle in the
anchor locker since it was isolated from the boat and had a drain that would
allow any leaked gas to drain.

I have the rest of the bits and pieces, including a propane and
gasoline bilge sniffer and a solenoid valve with remote shut-off.

That's good.

Now I have to put it together. I finally got the tarp and frame up
yesterday, so now I have to decide whether this winter's project (in
addition to replacing a troublesome exhaust system) is the propane
refit or a portlight replacement.

I'd do the portlight replacement first.

Man, I'm learning a lot about boat repair.

Welcome to the brotherhood of boatwork :)

R.

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:46:11 -0500, rhys wrote:


I do. I use 'em (the green Coleman 1 litre bottles) on my rail BBQ.
Good for about five meals. The galley stove is a converted Kenyon
Homestrand using barbeque side burners (10,000 BTU) and outside
propane.

Can you explain more? That sounds interesting.

TIA

Which bit? The Coleman bottle on the rail BBQ or the alcohol
stove-to-propane refit? For the latter, I used essentially barbeque
parts and pressure-ready refrigeration hose mated with flange-fitted
copper tubing running to the outside via a hole punched into the
lazarette..there's a solenoid shut-off and a propane bilge sniffer in
that mix, too.

I follow essentially the same technique used by a fellow who still
posts here whose name I can't recall, but who I think had a Pearson
Triton 28 (?) and had a photo-heavy website showing a number of good
boat systems ideas. He shows a bullet-proof propane installation, but
there are many safe ways to do this job.

I have all the pieces, but haven't finished the job due to more
pertinent engine issues, now close to resolution.

For onboard cooking, I use a Coleman two-burner camp stove on a plank
athwart the cockpit for boiling pots and stews, and a Force 10 BBQ on
the rail for grilling.


It was the converted Kenyon with 10,000-BTU burners that caught my
eye. But your last leaves me puzzled. I don't know what the galley
stove does if you do your cooking outsied.

Thanks



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC

Let's Put the XXX back in Xmas

dougie, it is Friday. you are at least three days late. Does that happen to
you often?

And your comments about the small bottles had nothing to do with
my post you replied to. So give it a rest!


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
you knew that, but the guy asking the question wasn't asking about that.

pay attention, Forrest.

From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom
Date: 12/9/2004 5:50 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

A bulk tank is much more economical, no disposal issues and no storage
issues other than those associated with any hazardous material on a boat.
One liter bottles cost about 4 to 5 times as much as bulk.

Doug
s/v Callista

"rhys" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:23:31 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

I have no use for the little propane bottles.

I do. I use 'em (the green Coleman 1 litre bottles) on my rail BBQ.
Good for about five meals. The galley stove is a converted Kenyon
Homestrand using barbeque side burners (10,000 BTU) and outside
propane.

R.

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:46:35 -0500, Rodney Myrvaagnes
wrote:


It was the converted Kenyon with 10,000-BTU burners that caught my
eye. But your last leaves me puzzled. I don't know what the galley
stove does if you do your cooking outsied.

It does nothing at the moment because I still have to run the copper,
do the flanges and figure out where I want to put the hole to the
outside. The rest is done, and as the sensor system is active (it sure
notices spilled gasoline...) and all the parts are on board, it's just
a matter of getting it done.

So I suppose were I a person who liked to push his luck, I could run
the camp stove in the galley, because the sensor would whine if I
leaked propane into the bilge...but I prefer the fresh air of the
cockpit anyway. If I drop something, I can rinse it down the drains
G

Lot of illness and work took time out of my life's vocation of boat
repair and resurrection this year...alas. That's why it's so planned
out and yet so not done.

R.

Be careful about running copper. It is subject to fatigue due to
vibration. Our surveyor made us remove all of it and replace
it with approved rubber hose.

Doug
s/v Callista

"rhys" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:46:35 -0500, Rodney Myrvaagnes
wrote:


It was the converted Kenyon with 10,000-BTU burners that caught my
eye. But your last leaves me puzzled. I don't know what the galley
stove does if you do your cooking outsied.

It does nothing at the moment because I still have to run the copper,
do the flanges and figure out where I want to put the hole to the
outside. The rest is done, and as the sensor system is active (it sure
notices spilled gasoline...) and all the parts are on board, it's just
a matter of getting it done.

So I suppose were I a person who liked to push his luck, I could run
the camp stove in the galley, because the sensor would whine if I
leaked propane into the bilge...but I prefer the fresh air of the
cockpit anyway. If I drop something, I can rinse it down the drains
G

Lot of illness and work took time out of my life's vocation of boat
repair and resurrection this year...alas. That's why it's so planned
out and yet so not done.

R.

your surveyor was wrong. Copper is fine. What is not fine is unsupported runs
of copper.

Be careful about running copper. It is subject to fatigue due to
vibration. Our surveyor made us remove all of it and replace
it with approved rubber hose.

Doug
s/v Callista

"rhys" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:46:35 -0500, Rodney Myrvaagnes
wrote:


It was the converted Kenyon with 10,000-BTU burners that caught my
eye. But your last leaves me puzzled. I don't know what the galley
stove does if you do your cooking outsied.

It does nothing at the moment because I still have to run the copper,
do the flanges and figure out where I want to put the hole to the
outside. The rest is done, and as the sensor system is active (it sure
notices spilled gasoline...) and all the parts are on board, it's just
a matter of getting it done.

So I suppose were I a person who liked to push his luck, I could run
the camp stove in the galley, because the sensor would whine if I
leaked propane into the bilge...but I prefer the fresh air of the
cockpit anyway. If I drop something, I can rinse it down the drains
G

Lot of illness and work took time out of my life's vocation of boat
repair and resurrection this year...alas. That's why it's so planned
out and yet so not done.

R.

Well, my insurance company and bank agreed with the surveyor so I
had to make the change.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
your surveyor was wrong. Copper is fine. What is not fine is unsupported
runs
of copper.

Be careful about running copper. It is subject to fatigue due to
vibration. Our surveyor made us remove all of it and replace
it with approved rubber hose.

Doug
s/v Callista

"rhys" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:46:35 -0500, Rodney Myrvaagnes
wrote:


It was the converted Kenyon with 10,000-BTU burners that caught my
eye. But your last leaves me puzzled. I don't know what the galley
stove does if you do your cooking outsied.

It does nothing at the moment because I still have to run the copper,
do the flanges and figure out where I want to put the hole to the
outside. The rest is done, and as the sensor system is active (it sure
notices spilled gasoline...) and all the parts are on board, it's just
a matter of getting it done.

So I suppose were I a person who liked to push his luck, I could run
the camp stove in the galley, because the sensor would whine if I
leaked propane into the bilge...but I prefer the fresh air of the
cockpit anyway. If I drop something, I can rinse it down the drains
G

Lot of illness and work took time out of my life's vocation of boat
repair and resurrection this year...alas. That's why it's so planned
out and yet so not done.

R.

they have to agree, no matter what the idgit said. they don't even as much as
he does.

next time, get a surveryor who knows what he is doing.

From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom
Date: 12/12/2004 9:08 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Well, my insurance company and bank agreed with the surveyor so I
had to make the change.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
your surveyor was wrong. Copper is fine. What is not fine is unsupported
runs
of copper.

Be careful about running copper. It is subject to fatigue due to
vibration. Our surveyor made us remove all of it and replace
it with approved rubber hose.

Doug
s/v Callista

"rhys" wrote in message
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:46:35 -0500, Rodney Myrvaagnes
wrote:


It was the converted Kenyon with 10,000-BTU burners that caught my
eye. But your last leaves me puzzled. I don't know what the galley
stove does if you do your cooking outsied.

It does nothing at the moment because I still have to run the copper,
do the flanges and figure out where I want to put the hole to the
outside. The rest is done, and as the sensor system is active (it sure
notices spilled gasoline...) and all the parts are on board, it's just
a matter of getting it done.

So I suppose were I a person who liked to push his luck, I could run
the camp stove in the galley, because the sensor would whine if I
leaked propane into the bilge...but I prefer the fresh air of the
cockpit anyway. If I drop something, I can rinse it down the drains
G

Lot of illness and work took time out of my life's vocation of boat
repair and resurrection this year...alas. That's why it's so planned
out and yet so not done.

R.

Well, since that time, three surveyors have said the same thing.
I don;t seem to have much say on it.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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they have to agree, no matter what the idgit said. they don't even as
much as
he does.

next time, get a surveryor who knows what he is doing.

From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom
Date: 12/12/2004 9:08 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Well, my insurance company and bank agreed with the surveyor so I
had to make the change.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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your surveyor was wrong. Copper is fine. What is not fine is
unsupported
runs
of copper.

Be careful about running copper. It is subject to fatigue due to
vibration. Our surveyor made us remove all of it and replace
it with approved rubber hose.

Doug
s/v Callista

"rhys" wrote in message
m...
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:46:35 -0500, Rodney Myrvaagnes
wrote:


It was the converted Kenyon with 10,000-BTU burners that caught my
eye. But your last leaves me puzzled. I don't know what the galley
stove does if you do your cooking outsied.

It does nothing at the moment because I still have to run the copper,
do the flanges and figure out where I want to put the hole to the
outside. The rest is done, and as the sensor system is active (it sure
notices spilled gasoline...) and all the parts are on board, it's just
a matter of getting it done.

So I suppose were I a person who liked to push his luck, I could run
the camp stove in the galley, because the sensor would whine if I
leaked propane into the bilge...but I prefer the fresh air of the
cockpit anyway. If I drop something, I can rinse it down the drains
G

Lot of illness and work took time out of my life's vocation of boat
repair and resurrection this year...alas. That's why it's so planned
out and yet so not done.

R.

Well, since that time, three surveyors have said the same thing.
I don;t seem to have much say on it.

next time, ask for one who knows the standards.

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 15:39:22 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

Be careful about running copper. It is subject to fatigue due to
vibration. Our surveyor made us remove all of it and replace
it with approved rubber hose.

Doug
s/v Callista

Thanks. I am aware of this, and the copper is only at fully supported
mounts on the sides of the locker, bulkheads, etc. The stove end is
about 18" of pressure hose to accommodate the gimballing stove top.

But I may look into all rubber anyway, as I haven't fitted it yet and
can use the copper elsewhere.

R.