yes, the water lift is a foot above the overboard and the engine exhaust
elbow is another 10" above that.

The exhaust elbow is a custom since the aluminum one didn't give me the
correct angle to the water lift.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Steve, exhaust gases ********MUST******** be present to move water from the
waterlift muffler overboard. If your engine is not starting, shut off the
water intake valve or suffer the consequences.


Yes I can see how that would happen if the water lift muffler outlet were
lower than the engine exhaust manifold as well as the overboard.

In my installation the engine exhaust elbow is at least a foot above the
water lift muffler and the overboard discharge is below the water lift (not
really a water lift in this instance).

The only way the water loft could fill to the level of the exhaust elbow is
if the overboard discharge were closed. If that were to happen the
compression pressure would rupture something in the exhaust system.

I still think the exhaust valve is staying open enough (when the engine is
dead cold) and during the power stroke, the piston sucks water vapor into
the cylinder. Not enough to cause a hydraulic lock but enough to show water
traces in the lub oil after a dozen or so start attempts. (no other way for
water to get into the oil in these engines since the water jacketed cylinder
is independent of the crank case, as is the water cooled head. ).

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

weeneyn, do be quiet. adults are talking. go stand in the corner, for you are
utterly ignorant on this subject. get used to it.

From: Wayne.B
Date: 10/21/2004 8:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 19:08:48 -0000, "Jean-Marie"
wrote:

I have seen suggested somewhere that you close the water intake if the
engine has to be cranked for a long time while it does not start or you do
not want it to start (Winterizing).

================================

Yes, the owners manual for one of my old Volvo's recommended exactly
that.

On 22 Oct 2004 02:44:46 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

adults are talking.

====================

Really. Where would that be?

across the entire world, weenyne. across the entire world.

From: Wayne.B
Date: 10/21/2004 11:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

On 22 Oct 2004 02:44:46 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

adults are talking.

====================

Really. Where would that be?

Steve, close the water intake value when you have trouble starting your engine.
otherwise, you can back up water from the waterlift muffler. When the engine
starts, open the intake valve.

From: "Steve"
Date: 10/21/2004 12:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

I could probably find the answer to this question if I removed the valve
cover on my engine..

Which valve does the compression release normally effect. Exhaust or
Intake??

The reason I ask, I have had a problem with wet exhaust water getting back
into the cylinder on my Entec/Farymen gen set engine. This happens when I
have intial trouble getting it started and after I use the compression
release.

I'm thinking that the exhaust valve must be staying open during the down
stroke (normal power stroke) while the intake is closed. This then sucks
water in from the wet exhaust elbow (water is injected just after the bend
of this elbow).

Even if the compression release doesn't effect the exhaust valve, I suspect
the exhaust valve may be sticking open after long idle period (week or so).

Just curious.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions