I am back on some fun stuff now that the weather has eased off. Interior
cabinet work. I need to make a lot of cabinet doors and with ventelation in
mind am thinking about using pre-woven chair caning. Anyone have any
experience with how long it will last with things in the cabinet bumping
into it? I am leaning towards a herringbone pattern rather than the
traditional octagonal holes.

Glenn,

All of our cabinets have cane fronts. They have held up very well over
5 years of sailing and a year of full-time cruising. Our's is the
traditional octagonal pattern. You can see some pics at
www.panoceanic.net

Doug
s/v Callista

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
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I am back on some fun stuff now that the weather has eased off. Interior
cabinet work. I need to make a lot of cabinet doors and with ventelation
in
mind am thinking about using pre-woven chair caning. Anyone have any
experience with how long it will last with things in the cabinet bumping
into it? I am leaning towards a herringbone pattern rather than the
traditional octagonal holes.

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
Glenn,

All of our cabinets have cane fronts. They have held up very well over
5 years of sailing and a year of full-time cruising. Our's is the
traditional octagonal pattern. You can see some pics at
www.panoceanic.net

Very nice! When I see a boat all settled in like that I get all green with
envy. :-)

Things have changed a bit since those pics were taken. The pilot
berth on the starboard side has been removed and replaced with
cabinets similar to those on the port side. The cane used matched
the existing cane perfectly. I guess that some things never change.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
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"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
Glenn,

All of our cabinets have cane fronts. They have held up very well over
5 years of sailing and a year of full-time cruising. Our's is the
traditional octagonal pattern. You can see some pics at
www.panoceanic.net

Very nice! When I see a boat all settled in like that I get all green
with
envy. :-)

I have the traditional pre-woven octagonal-holed cane that you can buy from any
craft store. Still looks good after about twelve years.

We have had no problems with things in the locker going bump, although have
twice had crew members fall through the cane. Simply replace the old stuff.

We recessed the cane so that the retaining spline is on the back (inside) of the
doors and hence not normally visible in the yacht. We used following process:-

* Cut cane webbing about one inch oversize on all edges.
* Thoroughly soak cane (at least overnight) to make it real pliable.
* Squeeze plenty of PVC glue into groove.
* Lay cane in position, and at centre point of one side gently push in a
temporary short spline (One inch)
* Carefully stretch cane and put another temporary spline oposite.
* Repeat for other two sides.
* Using a push stick carefully force cane into grooves.
* Starting from one of the temporary splines, carefully force a pre-soaked
permanent spline into groove, working around door, removing temporary splines as
you go. I used a small wooden mallet to knock the spline into the groove.
* When glue & cane is thoroughly dry cut off excess can flush with batten. I
used a straight cutter in a spindle molder. A boc cutter was too slow.
* Wave a butane torch over finished can to remove all splinters.
* I then gave it three coats of diluted clear polyurethane. Be real careful to
sto runs happening.

We occasionally run a damp cloth over cane to keep it clean. Every two years we
wash with sugar soap and then turpentine and then recoat with two coats of
diluted polyurethane. (ie cane and door frames).

Fair Winds

Graeme
sv Leonidas

Thanks for the info Graeme! I want to replace the old doors on my boat in
near future and your instruction will come in handy.
MMC
"Graeme Cook" wrote in message
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I have the traditional pre-woven octagonal-holed cane that you can buy from
any
craft store. Still looks good after about twelve years.

We have had no problems with things in the locker going bump, although
have
twice had crew members fall through the cane. Simply replace the old
stuff.

We recessed the cane so that the retaining spline is on the back (inside)
of the
doors and hence not normally visible in the yacht. We used following
process:-

* Cut cane webbing about one inch oversize on all edges.
* Thoroughly soak cane (at least overnight) to make it real pliable.
* Squeeze plenty of PVC glue into groove.
* Lay cane in position, and at centre point of one side gently push in a
temporary short spline (One inch)
* Carefully stretch cane and put another temporary spline oposite.
* Repeat for other two sides.
* Using a push stick carefully force cane into grooves.
* Starting from one of the temporary splines, carefully force a
pre-soaked
permanent spline into groove, working around door, removing temporary
splines as
you go. I used a small wooden mallet to knock the spline into the groove.
* When glue & cane is thoroughly dry cut off excess can flush with
batten. I
used a straight cutter in a spindle molder. A boc cutter was too slow.
* Wave a butane torch over finished can to remove all splinters.
* I then gave it three coats of diluted clear polyurethane. Be real
careful to
sto runs happening.

We occasionally run a damp cloth over cane to keep it clean. Every two
years we
wash with sugar soap and then turpentine and then recoat with two coats of
diluted polyurethane. (ie cane and door frames).

Fair Winds

Graeme
sv Leonidas

Thanks for the instructions. You have prevented me from making a mistake.
:-)

"Graeme Cook" wrote in message
...
I have the traditional pre-woven octagonal-holed cane that you can buy
from any
craft store. Still looks good after about twelve years.

We have had no problems with things in the locker going bump, although
have
twice had crew members fall through the cane. Simply replace the old
stuff.

We recessed the cane so that the retaining spline is on the back (inside)
of the
doors and hence not normally visible in the yacht. We used following
process:-

* Cut cane webbing about one inch oversize on all edges.
* Thoroughly soak cane (at least overnight) to make it real pliable.
* Squeeze plenty of PVC glue into groove.
* Lay cane in position, and at centre point of one side gently push in a
temporary short spline (One inch)
* Carefully stretch cane and put another temporary spline oposite.
* Repeat for other two sides.
* Using a push stick carefully force cane into grooves.
* Starting from one of the temporary splines, carefully force a
pre-soaked
permanent spline into groove, working around door, removing temporary
splines as
you go. I used a small wooden mallet to knock the spline into the groove.
* When glue & cane is thoroughly dry cut off excess can flush with
batten. I
used a straight cutter in a spindle molder. A boc cutter was too slow.
* Wave a butane torch over finished can to remove all splinters.
* I then gave it three coats of diluted clear polyurethane. Be real
careful to
sto runs happening.

We occasionally run a damp cloth over cane to keep it clean. Every two
years we
wash with sugar soap and then turpentine and then recoat with two coats of
diluted polyurethane. (ie cane and door frames).

Fair Winds

Graeme
sv Leonidas

Just to give the other option, our cane is applied from the front with
a piece of trim to cover the spline. Looks nice. I'll send you a digipic
close up if you want.

Doug
s/v CAllista

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
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Thanks for the instructions. You have prevented me from making a mistake.
:-)

"Graeme Cook" wrote in message
...
I have the traditional pre-woven octagonal-holed cane that you can buy
from any
craft store. Still looks good after about twelve years.

We have had no problems with things in the locker going bump, although
have
twice had crew members fall through the cane. Simply replace the old
stuff.

We recessed the cane so that the retaining spline is on the back (inside)
of the
doors and hence not normally visible in the yacht. We used following
process:-

* Cut cane webbing about one inch oversize on all edges.
* Thoroughly soak cane (at least overnight) to make it real pliable.
* Squeeze plenty of PVC glue into groove.
* Lay cane in position, and at centre point of one side gently push in a
temporary short spline (One inch)
* Carefully stretch cane and put another temporary spline oposite.
* Repeat for other two sides.
* Using a push stick carefully force cane into grooves.
* Starting from one of the temporary splines, carefully force a
pre-soaked
permanent spline into groove, working around door, removing temporary
splines as
you go. I used a small wooden mallet to knock the spline into the
groove.
* When glue & cane is thoroughly dry cut off excess can flush with
batten. I
used a straight cutter in a spindle molder. A boc cutter was too slow.
* Wave a butane torch over finished can to remove all splinters.
* I then gave it three coats of diluted clear polyurethane. Be real
careful to
sto runs happening.

We occasionally run a damp cloth over cane to keep it clean. Every two
years we
wash with sugar soap and then turpentine and then recoat with two coats
of
diluted polyurethane. (ie cane and door frames).

Fair Winds

Graeme
sv Leonidas

Took time to peruse the pics of your boat through the link you provided.
Glad I did, she's beautiful. I got a pretty good look at your doors with
trim on the front.
Thanks Doug.
MMC
"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
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Just to give the other option, our cane is applied from the front with
a piece of trim to cover the spline. Looks nice. I'll send you a digipic
close up if you want.

Doug
s/v CAllista

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
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Thanks for the instructions. You have prevented me from making a
mistake.
:-)

"Graeme Cook" wrote in message
...
I have the traditional pre-woven octagonal-holed cane that you can buy
from any
craft store. Still looks good after about twelve years.

We have had no problems with things in the locker going bump, although
have
twice had crew members fall through the cane. Simply replace the old
stuff.

We recessed the cane so that the retaining spline is on the back
(inside)
of the
doors and hence not normally visible in the yacht. We used following
process:-

* Cut cane webbing about one inch oversize on all edges.
* Thoroughly soak cane (at least overnight) to make it real pliable.
* Squeeze plenty of PVC glue into groove.
* Lay cane in position, and at centre point of one side gently push in
a
temporary short spline (One inch)
* Carefully stretch cane and put another temporary spline oposite.
* Repeat for other two sides.
* Using a push stick carefully force cane into grooves.
* Starting from one of the temporary splines, carefully force a
pre-soaked
permanent spline into groove, working around door, removing temporary
splines as
you go. I used a small wooden mallet to knock the spline into the
groove.
* When glue & cane is thoroughly dry cut off excess can flush with
batten. I
used a straight cutter in a spindle molder. A boc cutter was too slow.
* Wave a butane torch over finished can to remove all splinters.
* I then gave it three coats of diluted clear polyurethane. Be real
careful to
sto runs happening.

We occasionally run a damp cloth over cane to keep it clean. Every two
years we
wash with sugar soap and then turpentine and then recoat with two coats
of
diluted polyurethane. (ie cane and door frames).

Fair Winds

Graeme
sv Leonidas

One thing to note, goods inside the cabinet pushing on cane splined on the
outside will be tending to pull the spline out, whereas goods pushing on
cane splined on the inside will be putting more of a shearing load on the
spline.
Probably not of practical concern, but worth mentioning.
Ray

"MMC" wrote in message
. ..
Took time to peruse the pics of your boat through the link you provided.
Glad I did, she's beautiful. I got a pretty good look at your doors with
trim on the front.
Thanks Doug.
MMC
"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
Just to give the other option, our cane is applied from the front with
a piece of trim to cover the spline. Looks nice. I'll send you a digipic
close up if you want.

Doug
s/v CAllista

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:FfS8d.22103$3n.14945@okepread06...
Thanks for the instructions. You have prevented me from making a
mistake.
:-)

"Graeme Cook" wrote in message
...
I have the traditional pre-woven octagonal-holed cane that you can buy
from any
craft store. Still looks good after about twelve years.

We have had no problems with things in the locker going bump, although
have
twice had crew members fall through the cane. Simply replace the old
stuff.

We recessed the cane so that the retaining spline is on the back
(inside)
of the
doors and hence not normally visible in the yacht. We used following
process:-

* Cut cane webbing about one inch oversize on all edges.
* Thoroughly soak cane (at least overnight) to make it real pliable.
* Squeeze plenty of PVC glue into groove.
* Lay cane in position, and at centre point of one side gently push
in
a
temporary short spline (One inch)
* Carefully stretch cane and put another temporary spline oposite.
* Repeat for other two sides.
* Using a push stick carefully force cane into grooves.
* Starting from one of the temporary splines, carefully force a
pre-soaked
permanent spline into groove, working around door, removing temporary
splines as
you go. I used a small wooden mallet to knock the spline into the
groove.
* When glue & cane is thoroughly dry cut off excess can flush with
batten. I
used a straight cutter in a spindle molder. A boc cutter was too
slow.
* Wave a butane torch over finished can to remove all splinters.
* I then gave it three coats of diluted clear polyurethane. Be real
careful to
sto runs happening.

We occasionally run a damp cloth over cane to keep it clean. Every
two
years we
wash with sugar soap and then turpentine and then recoat with two
coats
of
diluted polyurethane. (ie cane and door frames).

Fair Winds

Graeme
sv Leonidas