Depends on the marina. This is true for Alamitos Bay (actually, it's worse
than a year.) However, I got into Holiday Harbor in San Pedro after being on
the list for only a month. (Nice marina, too.)

--Alan Gomes


"Michael" wrote in message
...
Average waiting list for a slip in S. California 30' a year or more, 35'
3-5
years, 40' how many decades you have left?


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 06:07:04 GMT, Rosalie B.
wrote:
The Boot Key bridge entrance is deep enough, but there is an electric
line over the entrance just past the bridge that would keep anyone
with a tall mast from going in there. It's the Sister's Creek
entrance that's iffy, although I have heard of someone with a 6 foot
draft doing it at high tide.

============================

Thanks. The mast on our new (to us) trawler tops out at just under 27
feet so should not be a problem :-)

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/hoo...bum?.dir=/4f58

We hope to be cruising down to the Keys by winter and living aboard by
next summer. We'll look for you on the ICW.

Good going! I had zero luck and got on the list for Dana Point some years
ago. By the time I get there in two more years I'll have a slip. For my
33' LOA boat thatrequires a30' dock. Wait time damn near five years. Up in
Washington wait time for some marinas but you can always get into something
right away. Oregon there aregood deals in Coos Bay and Brookings not toobad
in Newport and Astoria but then . . .it's a transit area at best on thewhole
coast. So I'm going to kill time by trucking the boat from Seattle to Great
Lakes, then go down the St. Lawrence, down the E. Coast with some ICW, have
a choice of staying North or hiding outin Mobile for the storm season then
the Caribbean on a circle ending up in Corpus Christi and truck back to the
West coast. By then I'll have to sit out the Mexico storm season and that's
what Dana's for. During sit outs I go back to work for a few months. For
someone cruising the west coast going West on the Great Lakes and trucking
to Vancouver or Seattle and then using that area to do a trip to Alaska and
explore the PNW works well. Downthe coast going off shore a couple hundred
unless you like surflining and harbor hopping and it's a lot of really great
scenery but not a run for beginners. Choice then is out around the N. Pac
high to Hawaii, down to Mexico and Central America with the flock or think
about out of the Straits and due South, skip by Easter Island and curve SE
to the Juan Fernandez Islands. Great cruising according to the two I know
who did it and they were the only boats there (yachtie type). Venture on
South around S. America or return N. to the de riguer Tahiti or back up to
Hawaii and down the Line Islands for something different. There's lots of
choices besides ho hum Mexico. . .course ifyou've never been done the block
to the corner itwill be there. And for gosh sakes don't think about Oregon.
Nice to pass through but economicallyit's a high tax appalachia west. you
either work for the government, areon welfare or independently rich . . .or
you leave. And then there's that coastal rain . . . . .


M.


Lots of adventures left . . . .. .think 'off freeway'.

"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
news:MU9Pc.195592$%_6.170990@attbi_s01...
Depends on the marina. This is true for Alamitos Bay (actually, it's worse
than a year.) However, I got into Holiday Harbor in San Pedro after being
on
the list for only a month. (Nice marina, too.)

--Alan Gomes


"Michael" wrote in message
...
Average waiting list for a slip in S. California 30' a year or more, 35'
3-5
years, 40' how many decades you have left?


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 06:07:04 GMT, Rosalie B.
wrote:
The Boot Key bridge entrance is deep enough, but there is an electric
line over the entrance just past the bridge that would keep anyone
with a tall mast from going in there. It's the Sister's Creek
entrance that's iffy, although I have heard of someone with a 6 foot
draft doing it at high tide.

============================

Thanks. The mast on our new (to us) trawler tops out at just under 27
feet so should not be a problem :-)

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/hoo...bum?.dir=/4f58

We hope to be cruising down to the Keys by winter and living aboard by
next summer. We'll look for you on the ICW.

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:40:58 -0500, "Michael"
wrote:

hiding outin Mobile for the storm season

I did that in 2003 and had three tropical storms pass nearby in three
weeks. Careful, Mobile Bay is very shallow and a tropical storm that
makes landfall to the west will drive a pretty good storm surge up the
bay. My boat was at Turner's and one storm put the water over the road
and docks by about a foot.

I would either do the PNY or the Chesapeake Bay. You can spend a
lifetime on the Bay and never get to all the interesting anchorages.
If you are willing to NOT be in Annapolis nearby marinas are
reasonable. I pay $2600 a year for a slip about 45 feet long and 15
feet wide. I went to school in Florida and never thought much of the
east coast of Florida for sailing. If you want to do Florida try the
Fort Myers area.
Keep in mind ANYPLACE north of Melbourne, Florida on the East Coast
will have cold-or freezing days in the winter.
Joe
Coquina C&C 35
Kent Island, MAryland


On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:28:36 GMT, "just me"
wrote:

I am planning to move my boat, a 40' Jeanneau, to the ocean (one of them)
around the first of the year.
I'm trying to decide where and which one. I plan to fly to the boat every
month or so. I expect I'll spend anywhere from a long weekend to ten days
or so. Eventually, I'll retire and spend longer times aboard. Once there, I
would like to have places to go to, visit and explore. Choice A: San Diego
area. Choice B: Atlantic side, Florida to North Carolina. Direct and
numerous daily flights by more than one airline are important. Your
thoughts, experiences and opinions are welcomed.

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 01:52:59 GMT, (Joe Della Barba
) wrote:

I would either do the PNY or the Chesapeake Bay. You can spend a
lifetime on the Bay and never get to all the interesting anchorages.
If you are willing to NOT be in Annapolis nearby marinas are
reasonable. I pay $2600 a year for a slip about 45 feet long and 15
feet wide. I went to school in Florida and never thought much of the
east coast of Florida for sailing. If you want to do Florida try the
Fort Myers area.
Keep in mind ANYPLACE north of Melbourne, Florida on the East Coast
will have cold-or freezing days in the winter.


....but the problem with the Ft. Myers area, for him, is the draft on
his boat.

He would be limited to channels and off shore.



On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:28:36 GMT, "just me"
wrote:

I am planning to move my boat, a 40' Jeanneau, to the ocean (one of them)
around the first of the year.
I'm trying to decide where and which one. I plan to fly to the boat every
month or so. I expect I'll spend anywhere from a long weekend to ten days
or so. Eventually, I'll retire and spend longer times aboard. Once there, I
would like to have places to go to, visit and explore. Choice A: San Diego
area. Choice B: Atlantic side, Florida to North Carolina. Direct and
numerous daily flights by more than one airline are important. Your
thoughts, experiences and opinions are welcomed.

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 08:29:14 -0400, Horace Brownbag
wrote:
...but the problem with the Ft. Myers area, for him, is the draft on
his boat.

He would be limited to channels and off shore.

=========================================

It's not quite that bad but you do have to watch where you're going.
This is one of the very best boating/cruising area in Florida in my
opinion with both affordable dockage and affordable water front
property available, not to mention some great cruising destinations
within a day or two.

You're right - that's a nice little marina. Out on the outer row of slips,
the last time I was there a few years ago, was a little 27' wooden Gulfweed
ketch named Nocturne, that was built around 1940 and has lived in that
marina since at least the early 70's. I did some work on the boat for a
previous owner back in those days. A sweet little boat, and a funky little
marina. Does Bill Gribble still run the show there?

Regards,
Tom Dacon

"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
news:MU9Pc.195592$%_6.170990@attbi_s01...
Depends on the marina. This is true for Alamitos Bay (actually, it's worse
than a year.) However, I got into Holiday Harbor in San Pedro after being
on
the list for only a month. (Nice marina, too.)

Tom,

I think you have in mind the "old" Holiday Harbor (off Miner street, next
to the old Fleitz Bros.). I believe the old Holiday is now called "Cabrillo
Way Marina" and run by a different concern. The new Holiday Harbor is just
to the northwest, off of 22nd street (a stone's throw from 22nd Street
Landing). This is in the new (i.e., about 17 year old?) marina--*much*
nicer.

In fact, Bill Gribble is the marina manager there. Nice guy. I used to own a
few different boats at the old Holiday Harbor in the 70s but the marina
manager at that time was Leo Hutter, not Bill. I had not met Bill Gribble
until I moved to my current slip in the new marina.

"Hurricane Gulch" is still a fun place to sail, but commercial interests
have encroached so much that there is much less open sailing area inside the
harbor--too many obstructions. But it's still good sailing, lots of wind,
and a terrific launching pad for Catalina.

--Alan Gomes


"Tom Dacon" wrote in message
...
You're right - that's a nice little marina. Out on the outer row of slips,
the last time I was there a few years ago, was a little 27' wooden
Gulfweed
ketch named Nocturne, that was built around 1940 and has lived in that
marina since at least the early 70's. I did some work on the boat for a
previous owner back in those days. A sweet little boat, and a funky little
marina. Does Bill Gribble still run the show there?

Regards,
Tom Dacon

"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
news:MU9Pc.195592$%_6.170990@attbi_s01...
Depends on the marina. This is true for Alamitos Bay (actually, it's
worse
than a year.) However, I got into Holiday Harbor in San Pedro after
being
on
the list for only a month. (Nice marina, too.)

Alan, the Holiday Harbor I remember was adjacent to San Pedro Boat Works,
all the way down at the end of Miner Street across the road from the coal
terminal. In those days Watchorn Basin was pretty empty. Cabrillo Boatshop
with its little marine railway was at the corner of 22nd and Miner. Cabrillo
Boatshop is gone now, I think, and I've heard that San Pedro Boat Works has
bitten the dust too. One of the best of the old-time boat yards. Times
change...

I'm up in the Pacific Northwest now, and my boat's in the Port Townsend
marina.

Tom Dacon

"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
news:mhkPc.76218$eM2.33654@attbi_s51...
Tom,

I think you have in mind the "old" Holiday Harbor (off Miner street, next
to the old Fleitz Bros.). I believe the old Holiday is now called
"Cabrillo
Way Marina" and run by a different concern. The new Holiday Harbor is just
to the northwest, off of 22nd street (a stone's throw from 22nd Street
Landing). This is in the new (i.e., about 17 year old?) marina--*much*
nicer.

In fact, Bill Gribble is the marina manager there. Nice guy. I used to own
a
few different boats at the old Holiday Harbor in the 70s but the marina
manager at that time was Leo Hutter, not Bill. I had not met Bill Gribble
until I moved to my current slip in the new marina.

"Hurricane Gulch" is still a fun place to sail, but commercial interests
have encroached so much that there is much less open sailing area inside
the
harbor--too many obstructions. But it's still good sailing, lots of wind,
and a terrific launching pad for Catalina.

--Alan Gomes


"Tom Dacon" wrote in message
...
You're right - that's a nice little marina. Out on the outer row of
slips,
the last time I was there a few years ago, was a little 27' wooden
Gulfweed
ketch named Nocturne, that was built around 1940 and has lived in that
marina since at least the early 70's. I did some work on the boat for a
previous owner back in those days. A sweet little boat, and a funky
little
marina. Does Bill Gribble still run the show there?

Regards,
Tom Dacon

"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
news:MU9Pc.195592$%_6.170990@attbi_s01...
Depends on the marina. This is true for Alamitos Bay (actually, it's
worse
than a year.) However, I got into Holiday Harbor in San Pedro after
being
on
the list for only a month. (Nice marina, too.)

So's mine. Right next to PT Rigging undergoing a refit/upgrade. Which one
is yours?

M.

I'm up in the Pacific Northwest now, and my boat's in the Port Townsend
marina.

Tom Dacon

"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
news:mhkPc.76218$eM2.33654@attbi_s51...
Tom,

I think you have in mind the "old" Holiday Harbor (off Miner street,
next
to the old Fleitz Bros.). I believe the old Holiday is now called
"Cabrillo
Way Marina" and run by a different concern. The new Holiday Harbor is
just
to the northwest, off of 22nd street (a stone's throw from 22nd Street
Landing). This is in the new (i.e., about 17 year old?) marina--*much*
nicer.

In fact, Bill Gribble is the marina manager there. Nice guy. I used to
own
a
few different boats at the old Holiday Harbor in the 70s but the marina
manager at that time was Leo Hutter, not Bill. I had not met Bill
Gribble
until I moved to my current slip in the new marina.

"Hurricane Gulch" is still a fun place to sail, but commercial interests
have encroached so much that there is much less open sailing area inside
the
harbor--too many obstructions. But it's still good sailing, lots of
wind,
and a terrific launching pad for Catalina.

--Alan Gomes


"Tom Dacon" wrote in message
...
You're right - that's a nice little marina. Out on the outer row of
slips,
the last time I was there a few years ago, was a little 27' wooden
Gulfweed
ketch named Nocturne, that was built around 1940 and has lived in that
marina since at least the early 70's. I did some work on the boat for
a
previous owner back in those days. A sweet little boat, and a funky
little
marina. Does Bill Gribble still run the show there?

Regards,
Tom Dacon

"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
news:MU9Pc.195592$%_6.170990@attbi_s01...
Depends on the marina. This is true for Alamitos Bay (actually, it's
worse
than a year.) However, I got into Holiday Harbor in San Pedro after
being
on
the list for only a month. (Nice marina, too.)