On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:40:58 -0500, "Michael"
wrote:

hiding outin Mobile for the storm season

I did that in 2003 and had three tropical storms pass nearby in three
weeks. Careful, Mobile Bay is very shallow and a tropical storm that
makes landfall to the west will drive a pretty good storm surge up the
bay. My boat was at Turner's and one storm put the water over the road
and docks by about a foot.

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 01:52:59 GMT, (Joe Della Barba
) wrote:

I would either do the PNY or the Chesapeake Bay. You can spend a
lifetime on the Bay and never get to all the interesting anchorages.
If you are willing to NOT be in Annapolis nearby marinas are
reasonable. I pay $2600 a year for a slip about 45 feet long and 15
feet wide. I went to school in Florida and never thought much of the
east coast of Florida for sailing. If you want to do Florida try the
Fort Myers area.
Keep in mind ANYPLACE north of Melbourne, Florida on the East Coast
will have cold-or freezing days in the winter.


....but the problem with the Ft. Myers area, for him, is the draft on
his boat.

He would be limited to channels and off shore.



On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:28:36 GMT, "just me"
wrote:

I am planning to move my boat, a 40' Jeanneau, to the ocean (one of them)
around the first of the year.
I'm trying to decide where and which one. I plan to fly to the boat every
month or so. I expect I'll spend anywhere from a long weekend to ten days
or so. Eventually, I'll retire and spend longer times aboard. Once there, I
would like to have places to go to, visit and explore. Choice A: San Diego
area. Choice B: Atlantic side, Florida to North Carolina. Direct and
numerous daily flights by more than one airline are important. Your
thoughts, experiences and opinions are welcomed.

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 08:29:14 -0400, Horace Brownbag
wrote:
...but the problem with the Ft. Myers area, for him, is the draft on
his boat.

He would be limited to channels and off shore.

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It's not quite that bad but you do have to watch where you're going.
This is one of the very best boating/cruising area in Florida in my
opinion with both affordable dockage and affordable water front
property available, not to mention some great cruising destinations
within a day or two.

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:32:10 GMT, "just me"
wrote:

For what it's worth, the draft is stated as 4'11". Of course with all the
"stuff" I've added, it's probably more like 5'6" now!

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You'd be OK basing out of the Ft Myers/Cape Coral/Ft Myers Beach area.
I just bought a trawler that draws a few inches over 5 ft. You do
have to pay attention, and there are some places you can't go, but
it's still a very desirable boating/cruising area. The Ft Myers
airport has direct flights to many different cities and several
different carriers.

Alan, the Holiday Harbor I remember was adjacent to San Pedro Boat Works,
all the way down at the end of Miner Street across the road from the coal
terminal. In those days Watchorn Basin was pretty empty. Cabrillo Boatshop
with its little marine railway was at the corner of 22nd and Miner. Cabrillo
Boatshop is gone now, I think, and I've heard that San Pedro Boat Works has
bitten the dust too. One of the best of the old-time boat yards. Times
change...

I'm up in the Pacific Northwest now, and my boat's in the Port Townsend
marina.

Tom Dacon

"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
news:mhkPc.76218$eM2.33654@attbi_s51...
Tom,

I think you have in mind the "old" Holiday Harbor (off Miner street, next
to the old Fleitz Bros.). I believe the old Holiday is now called
"Cabrillo
Way Marina" and run by a different concern. The new Holiday Harbor is just
to the northwest, off of 22nd street (a stone's throw from 22nd Street
Landing). This is in the new (i.e., about 17 year old?) marina--*much*
nicer.

In fact, Bill Gribble is the marina manager there. Nice guy. I used to own
a
few different boats at the old Holiday Harbor in the 70s but the marina
manager at that time was Leo Hutter, not Bill. I had not met Bill Gribble
until I moved to my current slip in the new marina.

"Hurricane Gulch" is still a fun place to sail, but commercial interests
have encroached so much that there is much less open sailing area inside
the
harbor--too many obstructions. But it's still good sailing, lots of wind,
and a terrific launching pad for Catalina.

--Alan Gomes


"Tom Dacon" wrote in message
...
You're right - that's a nice little marina. Out on the outer row of
slips,
the last time I was there a few years ago, was a little 27' wooden
Gulfweed
ketch named Nocturne, that was built around 1940 and has lived in that
marina since at least the early 70's. I did some work on the boat for a
previous owner back in those days. A sweet little boat, and a funky
little
marina. Does Bill Gribble still run the show there?

Regards,
Tom Dacon

"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
news:MU9Pc.195592$%_6.170990@attbi_s01...
Depends on the marina. This is true for Alamitos Bay (actually, it's
worse
than a year.) However, I got into Holiday Harbor in San Pedro after
being
on
the list for only a month. (Nice marina, too.)

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 17:57:13 GMT, "just me"
wrote:
Other than Key West for long trips and Sanibel for shorter trips, where is
there to go??

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Ft Myers Beach (gulf side or bay side), Bonita Springs, Naples (Palm
Beach of the west coast), Marco Island, Goodland (quaint fishing
village), Everglades City (end of the world), Caloosahatchie River
(AKA Okeechobee Waterway - 140 miles to east coast), Pine Island and
Pine Island Sound (great fishing, and scenery), Captiva and North
Captiva Islands (fantastic beaches, resorts and interesting
restaurants), Cabbage Key (quaint - good restaurant), Useppa Island
(resort - good anchorage), Cayo Costa, Gasparilla, Port Charlotte,
Venice, Sarasota, Bradenton, St Pete/Tampa (120 miles), Cancun/Cozumel
(400 miles), Bahamas (200 + miles), Cuba (200+ miles, politics
permitting), Marathon, Deer Key, Islmorada, Key Largo, Miami, Ft
Lauderdale, Boca Raton, Palm Beach, etc, etc, etc.

Other than that, not much of any place. :-)

Look for Twin or Bilge Keels, your right about the slip number. Oops. Mine
should be the only one like that anywhere in the yard. She's undergoing a
major refit and upgrade.

M.

"Tom Dacon" wrote in message
...
Hey, Michael -

Mine's a 41' wooden sloop, a Laurent Giles design built in 1957. I'm not
about to post my slip number on the world wide web, but I'm in the boat
haven, on the same dock that has Sugar and Leslie's big Alden schooner
Alcyone side-tied on the end. Bettina's about four boats down on the left
side.

Which one is your boat? Is it that long lean wooden one alongside the
building that looks like an eight-meter or PCC or whatever?

Tom

"Michael" wrote in message
...
So's mine. Right next to PT Rigging undergoing a refit/upgrade. Which
one
is yours?

Tom,

Yup, you're thinking of the old Holiday Harbor. Cabrillo Boat and Shelter
Point both closed up shop around 1997, I believe. (Cabrillo Boat moved
operations to Long Beach.) The buildings for San Pedro Boat Works are still
standing but I presume they are not operational; I haven't checked.

--Alan Gomes

"Tom Dacon" wrote in message
...
Alan, the Holiday Harbor I remember was adjacent to San Pedro Boat Works,
all the way down at the end of Miner Street across the road from the coal
terminal. In those days Watchorn Basin was pretty empty. Cabrillo Boatshop
with its little marine railway was at the corner of 22nd and Miner.
Cabrillo
Boatshop is gone now, I think, and I've heard that San Pedro Boat Works
has
bitten the dust too. One of the best of the old-time boat yards. Times
change...

I'm up in the Pacific Northwest now, and my boat's in the Port Townsend
marina.

Tom Dacon

"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
news:mhkPc.76218$eM2.33654@attbi_s51...
Tom,

I think you have in mind the "old" Holiday Harbor (off Miner street,
next
to the old Fleitz Bros.). I believe the old Holiday is now called
"Cabrillo
Way Marina" and run by a different concern. The new Holiday Harbor is
just
to the northwest, off of 22nd street (a stone's throw from 22nd Street
Landing). This is in the new (i.e., about 17 year old?) marina--*much*
nicer.

In fact, Bill Gribble is the marina manager there. Nice guy. I used to
own
a
few different boats at the old Holiday Harbor in the 70s but the marina
manager at that time was Leo Hutter, not Bill. I had not met Bill
Gribble
until I moved to my current slip in the new marina.

"Hurricane Gulch" is still a fun place to sail, but commercial interests
have encroached so much that there is much less open sailing area inside
the
harbor--too many obstructions. But it's still good sailing, lots of
wind,
and a terrific launching pad for Catalina.

--Alan Gomes


"Tom Dacon" wrote in message
...
You're right - that's a nice little marina. Out on the outer row of
slips,
the last time I was there a few years ago, was a little 27' wooden
Gulfweed
ketch named Nocturne, that was built around 1940 and has lived in that
marina since at least the early 70's. I did some work on the boat for
a
previous owner back in those days. A sweet little boat, and a funky
little
marina. Does Bill Gribble still run the show there?

Regards,
Tom Dacon

"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
news:MU9Pc.195592$%_6.170990@attbi_s01...
Depends on the marina. This is true for Alamitos Bay (actually, it's
worse
than a year.) However, I got into Holiday Harbor in San Pedro after
being
on
the list for only a month. (Nice marina, too.)

"Alan Gomes" writes:

Boatshop is gone now, I think, and I've heard that San Pedro Boat Works
has
bitten the dust too.

SFWIW, drove down Miner St last weekend.

The boat shops are all gone.

No updates have ever been made to any of the marinas.

HTH


--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 13:24:02 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:32:10 GMT, "just me"
wrote:

For what it's worth, the draft is stated as 4'11". Of course with all the
"stuff" I've added, it's probably more like 5'6" now!

================================================= =======

You'd be OK basing out of the Ft Myers/Cape Coral/Ft Myers Beach area.
I just bought a trawler that draws a few inches over 5 ft. You do
have to pay attention, and there are some places you can't go, but
it's still a very desirable boating/cruising area. The Ft Myers
airport has direct flights to many different cities and several
different carriers.

Yeah, it's a little different, I thought the draft on a 40' Jeanneau
was 7 feet.

I'm out at Pine Island with a 4'6" draft, and I find the bottom now
and again...7 foot would be a drag.

....but the area is nice...and 'reasonably' priced.