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Out of Gibraltar and heading East
Well we've had a great week (or best part of) here in Gibraltar.
Wonderful to visit but it sure is pricey when you've become used to Spanish and Moroccan prices. We had a week in Spanish Ceuta before this and were very surprised at the discovery. It is a wonderful place to visit. Morocco (Smir, M'Diq, Chefchouen, Oued Lau and Tetuan) were all excellent but Tangier harbor was a major disappointment. Not user friendly for cruisers, that's for sure. We think we'll cruise up the Spanish coastline, stopping in Malaga and Cartahena etc but if the weather's good and the sailing's fine, we'll probably just keep on going. Maybe Ibiza or even Sardinia before turning south for Monastir in Tunisia for the winter. We'll see. No internet for a while. Hoges |
Out of Gibraltar and heading East
On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:11:03 +0200, injipoint
wrote: Well we've had a great week (or best part of) here in Gibraltar. Wonderful to visit but it sure is pricey when you've become used to Spanish and Moroccan prices. We had a week in Spanish Ceuta before this and were very surprised at the discovery. It is a wonderful place to visit. Morocco (Smir, M'Diq, Chefchouen, Oued Lau and Tetuan) were all excellent but Tangier harbor was a major disappointment. Not user friendly for cruisers, that's for sure. We think we'll cruise up the Spanish coastline, stopping in Malaga and Cartahena etc but if the weather's good and the sailing's fine, we'll probably just keep on going. Maybe Ibiza or even Sardinia before turning south for Monastir in Tunisia for the winter. We'll see. No internet for a while. ========= Don't miss the French and Italian Riviera - not exactly inexpensive but the scenery (of many different kinds) is to die for. I would go back to Cannes, Cap Ferrat or Portofino in a heartbeat. http://www.google.com/search?q=cap+ferrat&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo= u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=80JvUIr_G4ue8gSVt4GYBw&ved=0 CD4QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=605 http://www.google.com/search?q=cap+ferrat&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo= u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=80JvUIr_G4ue8gSVt4GYBw&ved=0 CD4QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=605#hl=en&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=por tofino+images+italy&oq=portofino+images&gs_l=img.1 .1.0l2.18471.18756.2.23608.2.2.0.0.0.0.171.248.1j1 .2.0...0.0...1c.1.PlYqKCKzocw&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_ gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=c18433c2a992751e&biw=1024&bih=605 |
Out of Gibraltar and heading East
"Wayne B" wrote in message
... On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:11:03 +0200, injipoint wrote: Well we've had a great week (or best part of) here in Gibraltar. Wonderful to visit but it sure is pricey when you've become used to Spanish and Moroccan prices. We had a week in Spanish Ceuta before this and were very surprised at the discovery. It is a wonderful place to visit. Morocco (Smir, M'Diq, Chefchouen, Oued Lau and Tetuan) were all excellent but Tangier harbor was a major disappointment. Not user friendly for cruisers, that's for sure. We think we'll cruise up the Spanish coastline, stopping in Malaga and Cartahena etc but if the weather's good and the sailing's fine, we'll probably just keep on going. Maybe Ibiza or even Sardinia before turning south for Monastir in Tunisia for the winter. We'll see. No internet for a while. ========= Don't miss the French and Italian Riviera - not exactly inexpensive but the scenery (of many different kinds) is to die for. I would go back to Cannes, Cap Ferrat or Portofino in a heartbeat. http://www.google.com/search?q=cap+ferrat&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo= u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=80JvUIr_G4ue8gSVt4GYBw&ved=0 CD4QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=605 http://www.google.com/search?q=cap+ferrat&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo= u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=80JvUIr_G4ue8gSVt4GYBw&ved=0 CD4QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=605#hl=en&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=por tofino+images+italy&oq=portofino+images&gs_l=img.1 .1.0l2.18471.18756.2.23608.2.2.0.0.0.0.171.248.1j1 .2.0...0.0...1c.1.PlYqKCKzocw&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_ gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=c18433c2a992751e&biw=1024&bih=605 Very revealing those links. It makes me wonder why anybody would want to cruise from city to city, from crowd to crowd, from noise to noise, from breathing air full of diesel exhaust, to listen to 24/7 barking dogs and drunk people, shore side emergency vehicle racket, wake after wake rolling the boat. OMG to throw away money and time doing something that would be much easier done via caravan???? Makes absolutely no sense to this sailor. Maddening crowds are NOT where's it's at. Wilbur Hubbard |
Out of Gibraltar and heading East
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 17:26:06 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Wayne B" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:11:03 +0200, injipoint wrote: Well we've had a great week (or best part of) here in Gibraltar. Wonderful to visit but it sure is pricey when you've become used to Spanish and Moroccan prices. We had a week in Spanish Ceuta before this and were very surprised at the discovery. It is a wonderful place to visit. Morocco (Smir, M'Diq, Chefchouen, Oued Lau and Tetuan) were all excellent but Tangier harbor was a major disappointment. Not user friendly for cruisers, that's for sure. We think we'll cruise up the Spanish coastline, stopping in Malaga and Cartahena etc but if the weather's good and the sailing's fine, we'll probably just keep on going. Maybe Ibiza or even Sardinia before turning south for Monastir in Tunisia for the winter. We'll see. No internet for a while. ========= Don't miss the French and Italian Riviera - not exactly inexpensive but the scenery (of many different kinds) is to die for. I would go back to Cannes, Cap Ferrat or Portofino in a heartbeat. http://www.google.com/search?q=cap+ferrat&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo= u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=80JvUIr_G4ue8gSVt4GYBw&ved=0 CD4QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=605 http://www.google.com/search?q=cap+ferrat&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo= u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=80JvUIr_G4ue8gSVt4GYBw&ved=0 CD4QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=605#hl=en&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=por tofino+images+italy&oq=portofino+images&gs_l=img.1 .1.0l2.18471.18756.2.23608.2.2.0.0.0.0.171.248.1j1 .2.0...0.0...1c.1.PlYqKCKzocw&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_ gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=c18433c2a992751e&biw=1024&bih=605 Very revealing those links. It makes me wonder why anybody would want to cruise from city to city, from crowd to crowd, from noise to noise, from breathing air full of diesel exhaust, to listen to 24/7 barking dogs and drunk people, shore side emergency vehicle racket, wake after wake rolling the boat. OMG to throw away money and time doing something that would be much easier done via caravan???? Makes absolutely no sense to this sailor. Maddening crowds are NOT where's it's at. Lucky in a way, as you will never do it. Anchored in Florida, sitting there slapping mosquitoes is the most exciting voyage you will ever know. Wilbur Hubbard -- Cheers, Bruce |
Out of Gibraltar and heading East
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 17:26:06 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: Very revealing those links. It makes me wonder why anybody would want to cruise from city to city, from crowd to crowd === But did you enjoy the pictures? |
Out of Gibraltar and heading East
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote Very revealing those links. It makes me wonder why anybody would want to cruise from city to city, from crowd to crowd, from noise to noise, from breathing air full of diesel exhaust, to listen to 24/7 barking dogs and drunk people, shore side emergency vehicle racket, wake after wake rolling the boat. If I were to do a world cruise, it'd for sure include the major ports of call. It'd also include lots and lots of the smaller ports, bays, harbors, fjords, rivers, and such. But it'd include the major ports because you have to go to those too. |
Out of Gibraltar and heading East
"paulthomascpa" wrote in message
... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote Very revealing those links. It makes me wonder why anybody would want to cruise from city to city, from crowd to crowd, from noise to noise, from breathing air full of diesel exhaust, to listen to 24/7 barking dogs and drunk people, shore side emergency vehicle racket, wake after wake rolling the boat. If I were to do a world cruise, it'd for sure include the major ports of call. It'd also include lots and lots of the smaller ports, bays, harbors, fjords, rivers, and such. But it'd include the major ports because you have to go to those too. Aboard a cruise ship, yes, provided one craves crowds, noise, pollution and crime. But, to subject one's self to all that while cruising in your own private yacht smacks of masochism. . . It seems like too many people these days don't really want to do what a small private yacht does best get away from it all, instead they want to sight see. Take a freaking airplane. For me (and other real sailors) the journey is the primary reason to sail, not the destination. Any destination that is at odds with the solitude and individualism of the journey definitely detracts from the journey. Major ports are for those who can't really enjoy the journey for its own sake. Those who seek out major ports in lieu of small, quiet, off the beaten path destinations haven't a clue about getting away from it all and even less of a clue as to what cruising in a small private yacht is all about. Wilbur Hubbard |
Out of Gibraltar and heading East
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:42:39 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: Those who seek out major ports in lieu of small, quiet, off the beaten path destinations haven't a clue about getting away from it all and even less of a clue as to what cruising in a small private yacht is all about. === So where did you go on your latest cruise? Any pictures? |
Out of Gibraltar and heading East
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:42:39 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "paulthomascpa" wrote in message ... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote Very revealing those links. It makes me wonder why anybody would want to cruise from city to city, from crowd to crowd, from noise to noise, from breathing air full of diesel exhaust, to listen to 24/7 barking dogs and drunk people, shore side emergency vehicle racket, wake after wake rolling the boat. If I were to do a world cruise, it'd for sure include the major ports of call. It'd also include lots and lots of the smaller ports, bays, harbors, fjords, rivers, and such. But it'd include the major ports because you have to go to those too. Aboard a cruise ship, yes, provided one craves crowds, noise, pollution and crime. But, to subject one's self to all that while cruising in your own private yacht smacks of masochism. . . It seems like too many people these days don't really want to do what a small private yacht does best get away from it all, instead they want to sight see. Take a freaking airplane. For me (and other real sailors) the journey is the primary reason to sail, not the destination. Any destination that is at odds with the solitude and individualism of the journey definitely detracts from the journey. Major ports are for those who can't really enjoy the journey for its own sake. Those who seek out major ports in lieu of small, quiet, off the beaten path destinations haven't a clue about getting away from it all and even less of a clue as to what cruising in a small private yacht is all about. Wilbur Hubbard In Julius Caesar's writing we find an apt description: "He is the worst kind of a fool; He doesn't understand that he is a fool." You will find, if you ever do undertake a world cruise, that prices are much higher in these cute little out of the way places then in the major ports and contrary to what you may think you are going to need supplies. -- Cheers, Bruce |
Out of Gibraltar and heading East
On 5/10/2012 10:31 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:11:03 +0200, injipoint wrote: Don't miss the French and Italian Riviera - not exactly inexpensive but the scenery (of many different kinds) is to die for. I would go back to Cannes, Cap Ferrat or Portofino in a heartbeat. We pulled into Almerimar to get the Honda fixed (??? shuddered to a halt off Adra) and as small worlds would have it we are alongside some Australians from Adelaide who are in their 12th year here in the Med. They went to Portofino by bus from an anchorage about 5 miles away. Their "slip" on the anchor was free, the ones in Portofino would send most of us broke quickly! Thanks for the tour. Hoges |
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