There are two main kinds of cruising sailors. There's my kind of
cruising sailor which is somebody like myself who cruises and has
cruised for decades. This breed lives aboard, avoids marinas like the
plague they are and has no other home. We are sensible, thrifty people
who view our cruising boats as a boat first and a home second. This
means not a lot of lubberly junk aboard and few troublesome systems.
This means constantly keeping in mind that, "first she's a boat." This
means no finicky women folk aboard except perhaps when we have company.
This means reliability above all and ease of operation. This means
sailing more than motoring. This means thrift, economy, fortitude,
stamina, some hardship, manliness, independence and much more. It's all
about taking charge and doing things in a trouble-free and unobtrusive
manner. It means a voyage or a cruise that would be quite boring to
report on in writing. This means not even wishing to report on it in
writing because the satisfaction comes from the doing and not from the
pretentious bragging or recounting of one senseless predicament after
another. This is called the Capt. Neal philosophy of sailing.

Then there's the Capt. Skippy philosophy which runs mostly counter to
everything espoused by the good Capt. Neal. Skippy is a relative
newcomer who lacks insight and experience and has had a long litany of
full-of-trouble cruising fiascos up to and including severe damage to
his hull from groundings. While Capt. Skippy does live aboard and has
sold his home ashore, he still has not cut the umbilical cord because
his wife's mother lives ashore and her house is their house when
necessary. Skippy is almost as concerned with shore side birthday
celebrations and weddings as anything else. This also means a woman and
sometimes more than one woman aboard. (and a mother-in-law to boot,
yuck!) This means probably an extra TWO TONs of useless lubberly crap
that goes along with a woman and caters to a woman's fickle desires.
This means more systems and more maintenance and less reliability and
less sailing time. This means schedules and lots of motoring to meet
schedules. This means great expense, cramped spaces, inefficiency,
encumbrance, dependence and a willing, weak-spined, male attitude. It
also indicates shared responsibility and delegating to an inferior
sailor and betting your life on the fact that the inferiority won't put
you under. It practically guarantees that every cruise or voyage will
become a comedy of errors that any magazine would relish publishing to
make modern sailors all appear a lot of fools.

Poor Skippy!


Wilbur Hubbard

On 9/8/11 6:01 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:


There are two main kinds of cruising sailors. There's my kind of
cruising sailor which is somebody like myself who cruises and has
cruised for decades. This breed lives aboard, avoids marinas like the
plague they are and has no other home. We are sensible, thrifty people
who view our cruising boats as a boat first and a home second. This
means not a lot of lubberly junk aboard and few troublesome systems.
This means constantly keeping in mind that, "first she's a boat." This
means no finicky women folk aboard except perhaps when we have company.
This means reliability above all and ease of operation. This means
sailing more than motoring. This means thrift, economy, fortitude,
stamina, some hardship, manliness, independence and much more. It's all
about taking charge and doing things in a trouble-free and unobtrusive
manner. It means a voyage or a cruise that would be quite boring to
report on in writing. This means not even wishing to report on it in
writing because the satisfaction comes from the doing and not from the
pretentious bragging or recounting of one senseless predicament after
another. This is called the Capt. Neal philosophy of sailing.

Then there's the Capt. Skippy philosophy which runs mostly counter to
everything espoused by the good Capt. Neal. Skippy is a relative
newcomer who lacks insight and experience and has had a long litany of
full-of-trouble cruising fiascos up to and including severe damage to
his hull from groundings. While Capt. Skippy does live aboard and has
sold his home ashore, he still has not cut the umbilical cord because
his wife's mother lives ashore and her house is their house when
necessary. Skippy is almost as concerned with shore side birthday
celebrations and weddings as anything else. This also means a woman and
sometimes more than one woman aboard. (and a mother-in-law to boot,
yuck!) This means probably an extra TWO TONs of useless lubberly crap
that goes along with a woman and caters to a woman's fickle desires.
This means more systems and more maintenance and less reliability and
less sailing time. This means schedules and lots of motoring to meet
schedules. This means great expense, cramped spaces, inefficiency,
encumbrance, dependence and a willing, weak-spined, male attitude. It
also indicates shared responsibility and delegating to an inferior
sailor and betting your life on the fact that the inferiority won't put
you under. It practically guarantees that every cruise or voyage will
become a comedy of errors that any magazine would relish publishing to
make modern sailors all appear a lot of fools.

Poor Skippy!


Wilbur Hubbard


I've seen photos of your boat, Willy. It's the floating equivalent of a
cardboard appliance box a homeless guy might sleep in in a city alley
somewhere.

--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 18:01:33 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:



There are two main kinds of cruising sailors. There's my kind of
cruising sailor which is somebody like myself who cruises and has
cruised for decades. This breed lives aboard, avoids marinas like the
plague they are and has no other home. We are sensible, thrifty people
who view our cruising boats as a boat first and a home second. This
means not a lot of lubberly junk aboard and few troublesome systems.
This means constantly keeping in mind that, "first she's a boat." This
means no finicky women folk aboard except perhaps when we have
company.
This means reliability above all and ease of operation. This means
sailing more than motoring. This means thrift, economy, fortitude,
stamina, some hardship, manliness, independence and much more. It's
all
about taking charge and doing things in a trouble-free and unobtrusive
manner. It means a voyage or a cruise that would be quite boring to
report on in writing. This means not even wishing to report on it in
writing because the satisfaction comes from the doing and not from the
pretentious bragging or recounting of one senseless predicament after
another. This is called the Capt. Neal philosophy of sailing.

Then there's the Capt. Skippy philosophy which runs mostly counter to
everything espoused by the good Capt. Neal. Skippy is a relative
newcomer who lacks insight and experience and has had a long litany of
full-of-trouble cruising fiascos up to and including severe damage to
his hull from groundings. While Capt. Skippy does live aboard and has
sold his home ashore, he still has not cut the umbilical cord because
his wife's mother lives ashore and her house is their house when
necessary. Skippy is almost as concerned with shore side birthday
celebrations and weddings as anything else. This also means a woman
and
sometimes more than one woman aboard. (and a mother-in-law to boot,
yuck!) This means probably an extra TWO TONs of useless lubberly crap
that goes along with a woman and caters to a woman's fickle desires.
This means more systems and more maintenance and less reliability and
less sailing time. This means schedules and lots of motoring to meet
schedules. This means great expense, cramped spaces, inefficiency,
encumbrance, dependence and a willing, weak-spined, male attitude. It
also indicates shared responsibility and delegating to an inferior
sailor and betting your life on the fact that the inferiority won't
put
you under. It practically guarantees that every cruise or voyage will
become a comedy of errors that any magazine would relish publishing to
make modern sailors all appear a lot of fools.

Poor Skippy!


Wilbur Hubbard


Translation: Willie-boy is just another of the poor-white live-aboard
bums that clutter up the scenery. Too poor to own a house, and too
lazy to work, they buy a derelict boat and become floating
trailer-trash. As for "cruising" it is a matter of rowing the dinghy
ashore on Saturday evening and cruising down to the nearest pub that
sells cheap beer for their weekly attempt at cadging drinks from which
they usually return home sober enough to paddle back to their floating
trash heap as they are so obnoxious that few accede to their request
to "stand us a drink, mate".


Your trite rejoinder is a crass example of issue-avoidance typical of
failed liberal types! It's nothing more than an extended ad hominem
attack posted to avoid arguing the merits of my erudite observations due
either to lack of experience, dearth of intellectual acumen, and/or a
stubborn unwillingness to admit "if the shoe fits, wear it!"


Wilbur Hubbard

"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...
On 9/8/11 6:01 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:


There are two main kinds of cruising sailors. There's my kind of
cruising sailor which is somebody like myself who cruises and has
cruised for decades. This breed lives aboard, avoids marinas like the
plague they are and has no other home. We are sensible, thrifty
people
who view our cruising boats as a boat first and a home second. This
means not a lot of lubberly junk aboard and few troublesome systems.
This means constantly keeping in mind that, "first she's a boat."
This
means no finicky women folk aboard except perhaps when we have
company.
This means reliability above all and ease of operation. This means
sailing more than motoring. This means thrift, economy, fortitude,
stamina, some hardship, manliness, independence and much more. It's
all
about taking charge and doing things in a trouble-free and
unobtrusive
manner. It means a voyage or a cruise that would be quite boring to
report on in writing. This means not even wishing to report on it in
writing because the satisfaction comes from the doing and not from
the
pretentious bragging or recounting of one senseless predicament after
another. This is called the Capt. Neal philosophy of sailing.

Then there's the Capt. Skippy philosophy which runs mostly counter to
everything espoused by the good Capt. Neal. Skippy is a relative
newcomer who lacks insight and experience and has had a long litany
of
full-of-trouble cruising fiascos up to and including severe damage to
his hull from groundings. While Capt. Skippy does live aboard and has
sold his home ashore, he still has not cut the umbilical cord because
his wife's mother lives ashore and her house is their house when
necessary. Skippy is almost as concerned with shore side birthday
celebrations and weddings as anything else. This also means a woman
and
sometimes more than one woman aboard. (and a mother-in-law to boot,
yuck!) This means probably an extra TWO TONs of useless lubberly crap
that goes along with a woman and caters to a woman's fickle desires.
This means more systems and more maintenance and less reliability and
less sailing time. This means schedules and lots of motoring to meet
schedules. This means great expense, cramped spaces, inefficiency,
encumbrance, dependence and a willing, weak-spined, male attitude. It
also indicates shared responsibility and delegating to an inferior
sailor and betting your life on the fact that the inferiority won't
put
you under. It practically guarantees that every cruise or voyage will
become a comedy of errors that any magazine would relish publishing
to
make modern sailors all appear a lot of fools.

Poor Skippy!

I've seen photos of your boat, Willy. It's the floating equivalent of
a cardboard appliance box a homeless guy might sleep in in a city
alley somewhere.


Your trite rejoinder is a crass example of issue-avoidance typical of
failed liberal types! It's nothing more than an extended ad hominem
attack posted to avoid arguing the merits of my erudite observations
due either to lack of experience, dearth of intellectual acumen, and/or
a stubborn unwillingness to admit "if the shoe fits, wear it!"


Wilbur Hubbard

" Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." wrote in message
...
"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...
On 9/8/11 6:01 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:


There are two main kinds of cruising sailors. There's my kind of
cruising sailor which is somebody like myself who cruises and has
cruised for decades. This breed lives aboard, avoids marinas like
the
plague they are and has no other home. We are sensible, thrifty
people
who view our cruising boats as a boat first and a home second. This
means not a lot of lubberly junk aboard and few troublesome systems.
This means constantly keeping in mind that, "first she's a boat."
This
means no finicky women folk aboard except perhaps when we have
company.
This means reliability above all and ease of operation. This means
sailing more than motoring. This means thrift, economy, fortitude,
stamina, some hardship, manliness, independence and much more. It's
all
about taking charge and doing things in a trouble-free and
unobtrusive
manner. It means a voyage or a cruise that would be quite boring to
report on in writing. This means not even wishing to report on it in
writing because the satisfaction comes from the doing and not from
the
pretentious bragging or recounting of one senseless predicament
after
another. This is called the Capt. Neal philosophy of sailing.

Then there's the Capt. Skippy philosophy which runs mostly counter
to
everything espoused by the good Capt. Neal. Skippy is a relative
newcomer who lacks insight and experience and has had a long litany
of
full-of-trouble cruising fiascos up to and including severe damage
to
his hull from groundings. While Capt. Skippy does live aboard and
has
sold his home ashore, he still has not cut the umbilical cord
because
his wife's mother lives ashore and her house is their house when
necessary. Skippy is almost as concerned with shore side birthday
celebrations and weddings as anything else. This also means a woman
and
sometimes more than one woman aboard. (and a mother-in-law to boot,
yuck!) This means probably an extra TWO TONs of useless lubberly
crap
that goes along with a woman and caters to a woman's fickle desires.
This means more systems and more maintenance and less reliability
and
less sailing time. This means schedules and lots of motoring to meet
schedules. This means great expense, cramped spaces, inefficiency,
encumbrance, dependence and a willing, weak-spined, male attitude.
It
also indicates shared responsibility and delegating to an inferior
sailor and betting your life on the fact that the inferiority won't
put
you under. It practically guarantees that every cruise or voyage
will
become a comedy of errors that any magazine would relish publishing
to
make modern sailors all appear a lot of fools.

Poor Skippy!

I've seen photos of your boat, Willy. It's the floating equivalent of
a cardboard appliance box a homeless guy might sleep in in a city
alley somewhere.


Your trite rejoinder is a crass example of issue-avoidance typical of
failed liberal types! It's nothing more than an extended ad hominem
attack posted to avoid arguing the merits of my erudite observations
due either to lack of experience, dearth of intellectual acumen,
and/or
a stubborn unwillingness to admit "if the shoe fits, wear it!"



Thanks, "Gregory". I wasn't even going to dignify X-man's childish
taunt with a reply but your copy and paste of my Bruce in Bangkok
rebuttal servers the purpose admirably well.

Wilbur Hubbard

On 9/9/11 10:46 AM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...
On 9/8/11 6:01 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:


There are two main kinds of cruising sailors. There's my kind of
cruising sailor which is somebody like myself who cruises and has
cruised for decades. This breed lives aboard, avoids marinas like the
plague they are and has no other home. We are sensible, thrifty people
who view our cruising boats as a boat first and a home second. This
means not a lot of lubberly junk aboard and few troublesome systems.
This means constantly keeping in mind that, "first she's a boat." This
means no finicky women folk aboard except perhaps when we have company.
This means reliability above all and ease of operation. This means
sailing more than motoring. This means thrift, economy, fortitude,
stamina, some hardship, manliness, independence and much more. It's all
about taking charge and doing things in a trouble-free and unobtrusive
manner. It means a voyage or a cruise that would be quite boring to
report on in writing. This means not even wishing to report on it in
writing because the satisfaction comes from the doing and not from the
pretentious bragging or recounting of one senseless predicament after
another. This is called the Capt. Neal philosophy of sailing.

Then there's the Capt. Skippy philosophy which runs mostly counter to
everything espoused by the good Capt. Neal. Skippy is a relative
newcomer who lacks insight and experience and has had a long litany of
full-of-trouble cruising fiascos up to and including severe damage to
his hull from groundings. While Capt. Skippy does live aboard and has
sold his home ashore, he still has not cut the umbilical cord because
his wife's mother lives ashore and her house is their house when
necessary. Skippy is almost as concerned with shore side birthday
celebrations and weddings as anything else. This also means a woman and
sometimes more than one woman aboard. (and a mother-in-law to boot,
yuck!) This means probably an extra TWO TONs of useless lubberly crap
that goes along with a woman and caters to a woman's fickle desires.
This means more systems and more maintenance and less reliability and
less sailing time. This means schedules and lots of motoring to meet
schedules. This means great expense, cramped spaces, inefficiency,
encumbrance, dependence and a willing, weak-spined, male attitude. It
also indicates shared responsibility and delegating to an inferior
sailor and betting your life on the fact that the inferiority won't put
you under. It practically guarantees that every cruise or voyage will
become a comedy of errors that any magazine would relish publishing to
make modern sailors all appear a lot of fools.

Poor Skippy!

I've seen photos of your boat, Willy. It's the floating equivalent of
a cardboard appliance box a homeless guy might sleep in in a city
alley somewhere.


Your trite rejoinder is a crass example of issue-avoidance typical of
failed liberal types! It's nothing more than an extended ad hominem
attack posted to avoid arguing the merits of my erudite observations
due either to lack of experience, dearth of intellectual acumen, and/or
a stubborn unwillingness to admit "if the shoe fits, wear it!"


Wilbur Hubbard



I'll be more direct: your sailbote looks like a floating piece of crap.
I have nothing against older/old boats; many of them are beautiful and
have been lovingly restored. I wouldn't overnight on your boat, much
less live on it.

--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.

On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 11:42:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

" Sir Gregory Hall, wrote in message
...
"X ` wrote in message
m...

I've seen photos of your boat, Willy. It's the floating equivalent of
a cardboard appliance box a homeless guy might sleep in in a city
alley somewhere.


Your trite rejoinder is a crass example of issue-avoidance typical of
failed liberal types! It's nothing more than an extended ad hominem
attack posted to avoid arguing the merits of my erudite observations
due either to lack of experience, dearth of intellectual acumen,
and/or
a stubborn unwillingness to admit "if the shoe fits, wear it!"



As soon as you post an erudite observation on boating, I'll comment on
it. My sailing experience goes back to the 1950's when I began "junior"
club racing Blue Jays and Lightnings on Long Island Sound. My father
also commissioned an L16 from Bill Luders yard, so I certainly know what
a good-looking sailboat looks like. I've had other sailboats since, but
never one as butt-ugly as yours.

Of course, you don't actually sail that boat, do you.



--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
news.com...


Then there's the Capt. Skippy philosophy which runs mostly counter to
everything espoused by the good Capt. Neal. Skippy is a relative newcomer
who lacks insight and experience and has had a long litany of
full-of-trouble cruising fiascos up to and including severe damage to his
hull from groundings. While Capt. Skippy does live aboard and has sold his
home ashore, he still has not cut the umbilical cord because his wife's
mother lives ashore and her house is their house when necessary. Skippy is
almost as concerned with shore side birthday celebrations and weddings as
anything else. This also means a woman and sometimes more than one woman
aboard. (and a mother-in-law to boot, yuck!) This means probably an extra
TWO TONs of useless lubberly crap that goes along with a woman and caters
to a woman's fickle desires. This means more systems and more maintenance
and less reliability and less sailing time. This means schedules and lots
of motoring to meet schedules. This means great expense, cramped spaces,
inefficiency, encumbrance, dependence and a willing, weak-spined, male
attitude. It also indicates shared responsibility and delegating to an
inferior sailor and betting your life on the fact that the inferiority
won't put you under. It practically guarantees that every cruise or voyage
will become a comedy of errors that any magazine would relish publishing
to make modern sailors all appear a lot of fools.

Poor Skippy!


Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur, you know I like your satires.

But at least get your facts straight before you stretch them.

You certainly know that Lydia's mother lives in England. You may have
missed, however, that she's visiting the son of her two dearest high school
friends.

That's until we get on the boat, with her - at, perhaps, 87 years old, she
having a birthday soon - aboard, to resume cruising.

You also know that we don't do "schedules" - which is why we're still here
in the yard - the schedule to be at Stranded Naked, the schedule to be out
of the yard before hurricane season, and all the other "schedules" which
might have been interesting to achieve.

As to "Poor" me, I'm having the time of my life. The boat's in better nick
than it's ever been during our ownership, and many very serious age-related
(the boat, not mine!!) issues have been put to bed not only professionally
but beautifully. My apologies for not having gotten pictures of some of the
latest up yet, but I'll get to that some time soon, now that the time
pressure of dry weather (caulking) has passed...

I hope you're having as much fun as we are, and will, also, continue in that
vein as we again hit the high seas and continue our explorations. I don't
lament others' lifestyles, but you're sorely tempting me :{))

BTW, I've enjoyed all the chatter essentially off topic, and have not
responded until now to let it die down a bit...

L8R

Skip, moving on to the next project...

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didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.
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"Flying Pig" wrote in message
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
news.com...


Then there's the Capt. Skippy philosophy which runs mostly counter to
everything espoused by the good Capt. Neal. Skippy is a relative
newcomer who lacks insight and experience and has had a long litany
of full-of-trouble cruising fiascos up to and including severe damage
to his hull from groundings. While Capt. Skippy does live aboard and
has sold his home ashore, he still has not cut the umbilical cord
because his wife's mother lives ashore and her house is their house
when necessary. Skippy is almost as concerned with shore side
birthday celebrations and weddings as anything else. This also means
a woman and sometimes more than one woman aboard. (and a
mother-in-law to boot, yuck!) This means probably an extra TWO TONs
of useless lubberly crap that goes along with a woman and caters to a
woman's fickle desires. This means more systems and more maintenance
and less reliability and less sailing time. This means schedules and
lots of motoring to meet schedules. This means great expense, cramped
spaces, inefficiency, encumbrance, dependence and a willing,
weak-spined, male attitude. It also indicates shared responsibility
and delegating to an inferior sailor and betting your life on the
fact that the inferiority won't put you under. It practically
guarantees that every cruise or voyage will become a comedy of errors
that any magazine would relish publishing to make modern sailors all
appear a lot of fools.

Poor Skippy!

Wilbur, you know I like your satires.

But, this one wasn't intended to be satire. It was intended to be
educational to show the difference between what sailing once was and
what it has degraded into of late.

But at least get your facts straight before you stretch them.

You certainly know that Lydia's mother lives in England. You may have
missed, however, that she's visiting the son of her two dearest high
school friends.

Well, then who was it you two drove up and down the Interstate half a
dozen times to visit or stay with or watch her house? Was up in
Tennessee or Kentucky, wasn't it?

That's until we get on the boat, with her - at, perhaps, 87 years old,
she having a birthday soon - aboard, to resume cruising.

That's pretty old. You should be more considerate of her and celebrate
her birthday in a nice air-conditioned hotel or resort.

You also know that we don't do "schedules" - which is why we're still
here in the yard - the schedule to be at Stranded Naked, the schedule
to be out of the yard before hurricane season, and all the other
"schedules" which might have been interesting to achieve.

I'm talking about schedules while you are actually cruising like your
rush from the Bahamas primarily so you could make some wedding that was
scheduled in the U.S.

As to "Poor" me, I'm having the time of my life.

Just goes to show you're way too easy to please. Being strapped with one
or two ball-and-chain's is certainly not MY idea of having the time of
my life. Nothing beats true freedom but I suppose you're too insecure to
ever experience the freedom of going it alone.

The boat's in better nick than it's ever been during our ownership,
and many very serious age-related (the boat, not mine!!) issues have
been put to bed not only professionally but beautifully.

Well, that's a worthwhile accomplishment, at least. Time spent bettering
one's vessel is time well spent.

My apologies for not having gotten pictures of some of the latest up
yet, but I'll get to that some time soon, now that the time pressure
of dry weather (caulking) has passed...

You did a half-assed job on the toe rail, dude. Unless and until you
REMOVE it, scrape clean the bottom surface, check the fasteners that it
covers and replace/reseal those that need it, then calk and refasten the
toe rail so you have calk oozing out both both ways, you've not really
accomplished anything more than some amateur cosmetic work.

I hope you're having as much fun as we are, and will, also, continue
in that vein as we again hit the high seas and continue our
explorations. I don't lament others' lifestyles, but you're sorely
tempting me :{))

My lifestyle is that of a true sailor - a regular Joshua Slocum type -
while yours is that of a committe head organizer, a boat yard worker, a
husband, a son-in-law, kennel keeper, day laborer, a wannabe journalist
and socialite.

BTW, I've enjoyed all the chatter essentially off topic, and have not
responded until now to let it die down a bit...

Admit it, you were struck dumb by the many valid points made that did
not make you appear to be much of a sailor. LOL.


Wilbur Hubbard

On 9/9/2011 12:11 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/9/11 10:46 AM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...
On 9/8/11 6:01 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:


There are two main kinds of cruising sailors. There's my kind of
cruising sailor which is somebody like myself who cruises and has
cruised for decades. This breed lives aboard, avoids marinas like the
plague they are and has no other home. We are sensible, thrifty people
who view our cruising boats as a boat first and a home second. This
means not a lot of lubberly junk aboard and few troublesome systems.
This means constantly keeping in mind that, "first she's a boat." This
means no finicky women folk aboard except perhaps when we have company.
This means reliability above all and ease of operation. This means
sailing more than motoring. This means thrift, economy, fortitude,
stamina, some hardship, manliness, independence and much more. It's all
about taking charge and doing things in a trouble-free and unobtrusive
manner. It means a voyage or a cruise that would be quite boring to
report on in writing. This means not even wishing to report on it in
writing because the satisfaction comes from the doing and not from the
pretentious bragging or recounting of one senseless predicament after
another. This is called the Capt. Neal philosophy of sailing.

Then there's the Capt. Skippy philosophy which runs mostly counter to
everything espoused by the good Capt. Neal. Skippy is a relative
newcomer who lacks insight and experience and has had a long litany of
full-of-trouble cruising fiascos up to and including severe damage to
his hull from groundings. While Capt. Skippy does live aboard and has
sold his home ashore, he still has not cut the umbilical cord because
his wife's mother lives ashore and her house is their house when
necessary. Skippy is almost as concerned with shore side birthday
celebrations and weddings as anything else. This also means a woman and
sometimes more than one woman aboard. (and a mother-in-law to boot,
yuck!) This means probably an extra TWO TONs of useless lubberly crap
that goes along with a woman and caters to a woman's fickle desires.
This means more systems and more maintenance and less reliability and
less sailing time. This means schedules and lots of motoring to meet
schedules. This means great expense, cramped spaces, inefficiency,
encumbrance, dependence and a willing, weak-spined, male attitude. It
also indicates shared responsibility and delegating to an inferior
sailor and betting your life on the fact that the inferiority won't put
you under. It practically guarantees that every cruise or voyage will
become a comedy of errors that any magazine would relish publishing to
make modern sailors all appear a lot of fools.

Poor Skippy!

I've seen photos of your boat, Willy. It's the floating equivalent of
a cardboard appliance box a homeless guy might sleep in in a city
alley somewhere.


Your trite rejoinder is a crass example of issue-avoidance typical of
failed liberal types! It's nothing more than an extended ad hominem
attack posted to avoid arguing the merits of my erudite observations
due either to lack of experience, dearth of intellectual acumen, and/or
a stubborn unwillingness to admit "if the shoe fits, wear it!"


Wilbur Hubbard



I'll be more direct: your sailbote looks like a floating piece of crap.
I have nothing against older/old boats; many of them are beautiful and
have been lovingly restored. I wouldn't overnight on your boat, much
less live on it.


He wouldn't offer you overnight accommodation even if you brought your
own KY Jelly. Sorry Jessica.