"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...


Prime example of that great American idea... "everyone else is
responsible
for my irresponsibility" coupled with that other great American idea of
"deep pockets"


So true. Why, just yesterday I was in a crossing situation with my 6-foot,
2HP motor dinghy having on her port bow a fifty-foot trawler. Did the
trawler do anything but stand on causing me to have to turn to port and pass
astern to avoid a collision? Negative. Probably well fewer than half the
people operating motorboats these days know or understand the simplest of
the Rules of the Road. It's a crying shame. And even sadder is the fact that
they will litigate rather than admit they are in the wrong if and when they
cause a collision.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:45:05 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

So true. Why, just yesterday I was in a crossing situation with my 6-foot,
2HP motor dinghy having on her port bow a fifty-foot trawler. Did the
trawler do anything but stand on causing me to have to turn to port and pass
astern to avoid a collision? Negative.

Was the trawler restricted in ability to maneuver?

Did you sound the danger signal?

Did you attempt to contact them in advance on VHF channel 13 or 16?

Admiralty Court would probably find you both liable in the event of a
collision, if only because it is fooliish to challenge a much larger
vessel for the right of way.

"Wayne B" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:45:05 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

So true. Why, just yesterday I was in a crossing situation with my 6-foot,
2HP motor dinghy having on her port bow a fifty-foot trawler. Did the
trawler do anything but stand on causing me to have to turn to port and
pass
astern to avoid a collision? Negative.

Was the trawler restricted in ability to maneuver?

Negative. He was proceeding through the harbor and was not showing RAM
shaped. Water depths were adequate.


Did you sound the danger signal?

Negative, that would probably have just freaked him out. And, a dinghy is
only required to carry a whistle which he probably couldn't hear anyway.


Did you attempt to contact them in advance on VHF channel 13 or 16?

A VHF in a 6-foot dinghy? C'mon, get serious.

Admiralty Court would probably find you both liable in the event of a
collision, if only because it is fooliish to challenge a much larger
vessel for the right of way.

That's why I took action in time to avoid a collision by turning to port and
passing astern of him though the Rules say not to turn to port. I knew he
didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and was going to continue to
stand on because his was the larger vessel. Do you wonder why you motor
boaters don't merit much respect?

Wilbur Hubbard

On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:08:32 -0400, WaIIy wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:14:58 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Wayne B" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:45:05 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

So true. Why, just yesterday I was in a crossing situation with my 6-foot,
2HP motor dinghy having on her port bow a fifty-foot trawler. Did the
trawler do anything but stand on causing me to have to turn to port and
pass
astern to avoid a collision? Negative.

Was the trawler restricted in ability to maneuver?

Negative. He was proceeding through the harbor and was not showing RAM
shaped. Water depths were adequate.


Did you sound the danger signal?

Negative, that would probably have just freaked him out. And, a dinghy is
only required to carry a whistle which he probably couldn't hear anyway.


Did you attempt to contact them in advance on VHF channel 13 or 16?

A VHF in a 6-foot dinghy? C'mon, get serious.

Admiralty Court would probably find you both liable in the event of a
collision, if only because it is fooliish to challenge a much larger
vessel for the right of way.

That's why I took action in time to avoid a collision by turning to port and
passing astern of him though the Rules say not to turn to port. I knew he
didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and was going to continue to
stand on because his was the larger vessel. Do you wonder why you motor
boaters don't merit much respect?

Wilbur Hubbard




Weren't YOU in a motorboat ? LOL


Ah, but you obviously don't understand - he is Willie the boy wonder
and is never wrong. Therefore the world is expected to stop and gaze
in wonder when he passes by.

Cheers,

Bruce

"Bruce" wrote in message
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trim

Ah, but you obviously don't understand - he is Willie the boy wonder
and is never wrong. Therefore the world is expected to stop and gaze
in wonder when he passes by.


I bet I know the COLREGS far better than you do, Bruce, or you wouldn't be
making such ignorant statements about them. You apparently have no clue as
to the crossing situation rules for sailboats and for motorboats and for
combinations thereof.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:28:34 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:45:05 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

So true. Why, just yesterday I was in a crossing situation with my 6-foot,
2HP motor dinghy having on her port bow a fifty-foot trawler. Did the
trawler do anything but stand on causing me to have to turn to port and pass
astern to avoid a collision? Negative.

Was the trawler restricted in ability to maneuver?

Did you sound the danger signal?

Did you attempt to contact them in advance on VHF channel 13 or 16?

Admiralty Court would probably find you both liable in the event of a
collision, if only because it is fooliish to challenge a much larger
vessel for the right of way.

Perhaps the trawler guy knew who he was :-?
Cheers,

Bruce

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:28:34 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:45:05 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

So true. Why, just yesterday I was in a crossing situation with my
6-foot,
2HP motor dinghy having on her port bow a fifty-foot trawler. Did the
trawler do anything but stand on causing me to have to turn to port and
pass
astern to avoid a collision? Negative.

Was the trawler restricted in ability to maneuver?

Did you sound the danger signal?

Did you attempt to contact them in advance on VHF channel 13 or 16?

Admiralty Court would probably find you both liable in the event of a
collision, if only because it is fooliish to challenge a much larger
vessel for the right of way.

Perhaps the trawler guy knew who he was :-?
Cheers,

Bruce



It was probably Wayne B. Wouldn't surprise me if the Rube is pulling a
Donald Crowhurst act claiming to have sailed up to the North East while he
is still motoring up and down the Intracoastal Waterway in the Keys because
he's too frightened to sail open water.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:07:47 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:28:34 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:45:05 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

So true. Why, just yesterday I was in a crossing situation with my
6-foot,
2HP motor dinghy having on her port bow a fifty-foot trawler. Did the
trawler do anything but stand on causing me to have to turn to port and
pass
astern to avoid a collision? Negative.

Was the trawler restricted in ability to maneuver?

Did you sound the danger signal?

Did you attempt to contact them in advance on VHF channel 13 or 16?

Admiralty Court would probably find you both liable in the event of a
collision, if only because it is fooliish to challenge a much larger
vessel for the right of way.

Perhaps the trawler guy knew who he was :-?
Cheers,

Bruce


It was probably Wayne B. Wouldn't surprise me if the Rube is pulling a
Donald Crowhurst act claiming to have sailed up to the North East while he
is still motoring up and down the Intracoastal Waterway in the Keys because
he's too frightened to sail open water.

Wilbur Hubbard

Speaking about "open water" when one's experience consists of solely
put-putting up and down the harbor?

Cheers,

Bruce

"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:45:05 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.3.70...


Prime example of that great American idea... "everyone else is
responsible
for my irresponsibility" coupled with that other great American idea of
"deep pockets"


So true. Why, just yesterday I was in a crossing situation with my 6-foot,
2HP motor dinghy having on her port bow a fifty-foot trawler. Did the
trawler do anything but stand on causing me to have to turn to port and
pass
astern to avoid a collision? Negative. Probably well fewer than half the
people operating motorboats these days know or understand the simplest of
the Rules of the Road. It's a crying shame. And even sadder is the fact
that
they will litigate rather than admit they are in the wrong if and when
they
cause a collision.

Wilbur Hubbard



I can just see you going down a channel in your rubber boat.

Probably looks like a pinball machine.



It's a GRP pram. Bluff bow and all . . . I don't like those inflatables.
They should rename them to 'defalatables'.