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Jessica B February 24th 11 11:39 PM

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:14:54 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote:


Last time I sailed, I was given a choice, and I put mine on. I was
told it would inflate by water pressure, so I didn't have to worry
about getting sprayed. It seemed pretty comfortable,


but after a while
got annoying, so I took it off.



Jessibur B Hubard,

Did it chafe your manboobs causing redness and great pain?

Bob


Since you're not able to be civil, I have no reason to continue to
talk to you.

Jessica B February 24th 11 11:41 PM

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:09:29 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:37:48 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I just recently bought a couple of inflatable PFDs.

One of the standing orders on my boat is that if you
are on deck and out of the cockpit you must wear your
float.

But I'm curious about what the rest of you think.
Do you wear them or not?


Last time I sailed, I was given a choice, and I put mine on. I was
told it would inflate by water pressure, so I didn't have to worry
about getting sprayed. It seemed pretty comfortable, but after a while
got annoying, so I took it off.




And therein lies the problem - discomfiture.

The last thing I need when I'm sailing is some hot and uncomfortable life
jacket of any kind chafing on me. I'd rather sit in the cockpit under the
shade of the bimini with shorts and bare-chested and enjoy the sun, wind and
water unencumbered with a bunch of crap hanging off of my body.



Wilbur Hubbard


When I sailed it was pretty cold, so there wasn't much to do but stay
behind the black canvas (dodger). Even over the clothes (several
layers) it still started to bother me, and it there was no real
possibility of falling off.

Seems like maybe government officials should worry more about drug
runners than people minding their own business on a sailboat?

Waldo February 25th 11 12:04 AM

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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
"Waldo" wrote in message
eb.com...
"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:10:09 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bob" wrote in message
...

wrote:
How about people just learn how to SWIM???? If you can't swim then
stay
off
the water.


::Jessibur has a very limited view of sailing. His post show a
::fundamental lack conservative thinking.

Wrong! Conservative thinking has at it's core personal rights and
personal
freedom and personal responsibility. It is very conservative to suggest
a
body learn to swim prior to going out on the water.


::Wayne B on the other had is the first person here that really hits the
::nail on the head. Your equipment should fit the vessel and the area of
::operation.

And who makes the rules? Not the captain? Nooooo! You freaking
communists
want all personal responsibility taken away from the captain and given
to
some government entity. You, sir, are a Nazi wannabe.


::To make a bl(a)nket statment as Jsessibur does is nieve (sic). Here in
the
PNW
::with water tempratures 48-55F and sailing typically in 6-12 feet
::swells it is very easy to drown befor a boat can come about... yes,
::even excuting a Willimason Turn. basic law here is if single handed
::and go over youre dead. If you go over with someone else on board
::youre most likely dead.... maybe not if yore really fat had have a
::capable crew.

Oh, clueless one, the point is to NOT fall off the boat. If you are
stupid
or inept to fall off the boat then you deserve to be left behind to
drown.
Your personal responsibility is to take such measures as will satisfy
you of
your OWN PERSONAL SAFETY. If you wish then wear a life jacket but don't
try
to leglislate personal safety decisions and make them mandatory for
everybody. I'm an adult - I will make my own personal safety decisions
and
the federal or state government be damned. If you want to be a Nazi,
fine.
But, leave me out of your world view. Is that too much to ask?


::Person(al)ly single ha(n)ded I tie off and wear a Sterns Type V Work
Suit
::and when in water temp above 70 F Ill substitute an inflatable
::harness. When crossing a bar all passengers are inside. Only crew is
::on deck.Once ouside pasangers are alowed on deck and must wear
::inflatable harness.

Hey dummy! In case you haven't noticed I'm not talking about commercial
enterprises. I'm talking about individual choices on recreational
vessels.
Get a clue and try to stay on topic, d00d!



People run out of energy very quickly in water less than 85 degrees
F., and if you can't deploy the swim ladder, where are you going to
swim to? A lot of people have drowned trying to swim to shore in
cases where they'd have been just fine holding onto the boat.

::Wayne, I comend your conservative and detaild response. To Willica I
::say, u r 1 dum fool.
:: BOb

Bob, you haven't a clue what conservative even means. I suggest you do
some
basic research on the term. And, don't limit it to a political
definition
only. When you have educated yourself then you may return and perhaps
not
make as big a fool out of yourself as is the case in your post to which
this
is the reply.

Dismissed!

Wilbur Hubbard



I was specifically told not to fall off the boat by the skipper. I
didn't fall off the boat! LOL


Rats!



I would have told her to fall off on purpose so I could do some
man-overboard rescue practice drills.

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


In all her glory. As you can tell, she was the life of the party.
http://i56.tinypic.com/2sb0k7q.png
--
Waldo


Wilbur Hubbard February 25th 11 06:10 PM

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"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:04:40 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

snip

I would have told her to fall off on purpose so I could do some
man-overboard rescue practice drills.

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


As long as you didn't push me! FYI, sorry I saw your email today, but
just didn't have the opportunity to give a thoughtful reply. I'll get
to it this evening after I get back from the gym. I hope you had a
nice day!


No rush. I took my time answering yours. . .

Also, Waldo sounds like an ass.


Agreed. He sounds bitter about something. Certainly, he can't still think
Jessica B is just another nym for Wilbur Hubbard. If so, then he sure can't
read with comprehension.


Wilbur Hubbard




Wilbur Hubbard February 25th 11 06:11 PM

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"Waldo" wrote in message
eb.com...
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

snip

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


In all her glory. As you can tell, she was the life of the party.
http://i56.tinypic.com/2sb0k7q.png



"Sorry, picture was taken down or moved"





Wilbur Hubbard February 25th 11 06:15 PM

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"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:14:54 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote:


Last time I sailed, I was given a choice, and I put mine on. I was
told it would inflate by water pressure, so I didn't have to worry
about getting sprayed. It seemed pretty comfortable,


but after a while
got annoying, so I took it off.



Jessibur B Hubard,

Did it chafe your manboobs causing redness and great pain?

Bob


Since you're not able to be civil, I have no reason to continue to
talk to you.




I just hope these morons keep it up. If they can't tell a real woman from
Wilbur Hubbard then they can't read with comprehension nor can they relate
to a real woman. If this keeps up, pretty soon I'll have you all for myself.
But, I'll have to figure out a way to get rid of that blankity-blank gas can
guy. LOL! Maybe I'll drill small holes in his pitons.


Wilbur Hubbard



Wilbur Hubbard February 25th 11 06:20 PM

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"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:09:29 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:37:48 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I just recently bought a couple of inflatable PFDs.

One of the standing orders on my boat is that if you
are on deck and out of the cockpit you must wear your
float.

But I'm curious about what the rest of you think.
Do you wear them or not?

Last time I sailed, I was given a choice, and I put mine on. I was
told it would inflate by water pressure, so I didn't have to worry
about getting sprayed. It seemed pretty comfortable, but after a while
got annoying, so I took it off.




And therein lies the problem - discomfiture.

The last thing I need when I'm sailing is some hot and uncomfortable life
jacket of any kind chafing on me. I'd rather sit in the cockpit under the
shade of the bimini with shorts and bare-chested and enjoy the sun, wind
and
water unencumbered with a bunch of crap hanging off of my body.



Wilbur Hubbard


When I sailed it was pretty cold, so there wasn't much to do but stay
behind the black canvas (dodger). Even over the clothes (several
layers) it still started to bother me, and it there was no real
possibility of falling off.


You need to sail where it's warm or hot. It's ever so much more fun. The
water is also warm and swimming and snorkeling is just great. I heard they
might be getting SNOW in San Francisco today. Brrrr. It's 83 degrees outside
today with a nice 10-12mph south wind.


Seems like maybe government officials should worry more about drug
runners than people minding their own business on a sailboat?



Exactly. But, those coward government officials won't mess with people who
shoot at them like big illegal drugs cartels. They'd rather harass
defenseless, law-abiding citizens who are minding their own business trying
to enjoy life.

Wilbur Hubbard




Waldo February 25th 11 06:32 PM

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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
"Waldo" wrote in message
eb.com...
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

snip

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


In all her glory. As you can tell, she was the life of the party.
http://i56.tinypic.com/2sb0k7q.png



"Sorry, picture was taken down or moved"





No surprise there. t was kind of risque. You snooze you lose fella.


asdfsea March 1st 11 06:54 AM

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single comment
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"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
slide wrote:

Before you go further in this, though, I strongly suggest you try
retrieving someone from the ocean as if it were a MOB drill. Getting
someone on deck from most boats with significant freeboard is MUCH more
difficult than most people envision.



We practice all the time, slide.
But my boat has a sugar scoop stern with a drop down stern ladder.

Retrieving hats is harder...


--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb




terense tang March 1st 11 07:38 AM

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On Feb 21, 1:31*am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Waldo" wrote in message

.com...



"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
tanews.com...
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
news:9vGdnUWMQ8RFSMLQnZ2dnUVZ_j0AAAAA@earthlink. com...
I just recently bought a couple of inflatable PFDs.


One of the standing orders on my boat is that if you
are on deck and out of the cockpit you must wear your
float.


But I'm curious about what the rest of you think.
Do you wear them or not?


Hell no! Never have, never will. Just don't fall
off the boat.


Life jackets are for children only as they aren't
cognizant of the danger of falling overboard.


Wilbur Hubbard


That's totally irresponsible. Wear one for your loved ones if not for
yourself.


Loved ones? What loved ones?

Wilbur Hubbard


all of 'em

Jessica B March 3rd 11 12:36 AM

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On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:10:10 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:04:40 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

snip

I would have told her to fall off on purpose so I could do some
man-overboard rescue practice drills.

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


As long as you didn't push me! FYI, sorry I saw your email today, but
just didn't have the opportunity to give a thoughtful reply. I'll get
to it this evening after I get back from the gym. I hope you had a
nice day!


No rush. I took my time answering yours. . .

Also, Waldo sounds like an ass.


Agreed. He sounds bitter about something. Certainly, he can't still think
Jessica B is just another nym for Wilbur Hubbard. If so, then he sure can't
read with comprehension.


Wilbur Hubbard


I hope you got my email from earlier... so much going on. I really
don't have the time or energy for a bizzaro like Waldo.

Jessica B March 3rd 11 12:39 AM

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On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:15:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:14:54 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote:


Last time I sailed, I was given a choice, and I put mine on. I was
told it would inflate by water pressure, so I didn't have to worry
about getting sprayed. It seemed pretty comfortable,

but after a while
got annoying, so I took it off.


Jessibur B Hubard,

Did it chafe your manboobs causing redness and great pain?

Bob


Since you're not able to be civil, I have no reason to continue to
talk to you.




I just hope these morons keep it up. If they can't tell a real woman from
Wilbur Hubbard then they can't read with comprehension nor can they relate
to a real woman. If this keeps up, pretty soon I'll have you all for myself.
But, I'll have to figure out a way to get rid of that blankity-blank gas can
guy. LOL! Maybe I'll drill small holes in his pitons.


Wilbur Hubbard


HAH! Gas can guy... I'll start calling him that. I was calling him Mr.
Rescue, but I like that better.

Umm... what's a piton? Mountain climbing... that's all I could come up
with.

Jessica B March 3rd 11 12:42 AM

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On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:20:03 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:09:29 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:37:48 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I just recently bought a couple of inflatable PFDs.

One of the standing orders on my boat is that if you
are on deck and out of the cockpit you must wear your
float.

But I'm curious about what the rest of you think.
Do you wear them or not?

Last time I sailed, I was given a choice, and I put mine on. I was
told it would inflate by water pressure, so I didn't have to worry
about getting sprayed. It seemed pretty comfortable, but after a while
got annoying, so I took it off.



And therein lies the problem - discomfiture.

The last thing I need when I'm sailing is some hot and uncomfortable life
jacket of any kind chafing on me. I'd rather sit in the cockpit under the
shade of the bimini with shorts and bare-chested and enjoy the sun, wind
and
water unencumbered with a bunch of crap hanging off of my body.



Wilbur Hubbard


When I sailed it was pretty cold, so there wasn't much to do but stay
behind the black canvas (dodger). Even over the clothes (several
layers) it still started to bother me, and it there was no real
possibility of falling off.


You need to sail where it's warm or hot. It's ever so much more fun. The
water is also warm and swimming and snorkeling is just great. I heard they
might be getting SNOW in San Francisco today. Brrrr. It's 83 degrees outside
today with a nice 10-12mph south wind.


I think I heard a report of snow in Carmel! That's amazing. So much
for this global warming nonsense. Brrr is right.

No interest in San Fran... sorry. It's fun to visit for a few days,
after that it's just to weird.


Seems like maybe government officials should worry more about drug
runners than people minding their own business on a sailboat?



Exactly. But, those coward government officials won't mess with people who
shoot at them like big illegal drugs cartels. They'd rather harass
defenseless, law-abiding citizens who are minding their own business trying
to enjoy life.

Wilbur Hubbard



I'm not much for people doing drugs, but if they don't hurt anyone
perhaps it's not so bad. I have to participate in regular drug testing
(work req.), so I'm not going to risk my job. I smoked a joint in
college. It just wasn't that interesting.

Bruce[_3_] March 3rd 11 11:29 AM

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On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:36:55 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:10:10 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:04:40 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

snip

I would have told her to fall off on purpose so I could do some
man-overboard rescue practice drills.

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


As long as you didn't push me! FYI, sorry I saw your email today, but
just didn't have the opportunity to give a thoughtful reply. I'll get
to it this evening after I get back from the gym. I hope you had a
nice day!


No rush. I took my time answering yours. . .

Also, Waldo sounds like an ass.


Agreed. He sounds bitter about something. Certainly, he can't still think
Jessica B is just another nym for Wilbur Hubbard. If so, then he sure can't
read with comprehension.


Wilbur Hubbard


I hope you got my email from earlier... so much going on. I really
don't have the time or energy for a bizzaro like Waldo.



Goodness, from the lack of posts recently I had thought that the
Willie and Jessica show (called a farce in earlier times) had moved on
to bigger and better things.

Ah well, hope still springs... etc.
Cheers,

Bruce

Jessica B March 4th 11 12:34 AM

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On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:29:52 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:36:55 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:10:10 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:04:40 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

I would have told her to fall off on purpose so I could do some
man-overboard rescue practice drills.

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


As long as you didn't push me! FYI, sorry I saw your email today, but
just didn't have the opportunity to give a thoughtful reply. I'll get
to it this evening after I get back from the gym. I hope you had a
nice day!

No rush. I took my time answering yours. . .

Also, Waldo sounds like an ass.

Agreed. He sounds bitter about something. Certainly, he can't still think
Jessica B is just another nym for Wilbur Hubbard. If so, then he sure can't
read with comprehension.


Wilbur Hubbard


I hope you got my email from earlier... so much going on. I really
don't have the time or energy for a bizzaro like Waldo.



Goodness, from the lack of posts recently I had thought that the
Willie and Jessica show (called a farce in earlier times) had moved on
to bigger and better things.

Ah well, hope still springs... etc.
Cheers,

Bruce


I think you're the one who's the farce if that's your attitude.

Bruce[_3_] March 4th 11 12:14 PM

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On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:34:04 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:29:52 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:36:55 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:10:10 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:04:40 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

I would have told her to fall off on purpose so I could do some
man-overboard rescue practice drills.

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


As long as you didn't push me! FYI, sorry I saw your email today, but
just didn't have the opportunity to give a thoughtful reply. I'll get
to it this evening after I get back from the gym. I hope you had a
nice day!

No rush. I took my time answering yours. . .

Also, Waldo sounds like an ass.

Agreed. He sounds bitter about something. Certainly, he can't still think
Jessica B is just another nym for Wilbur Hubbard. If so, then he sure can't
read with comprehension.


Wilbur Hubbard


I hope you got my email from earlier... so much going on. I really
don't have the time or energy for a bizzaro like Waldo.



Goodness, from the lack of posts recently I had thought that the
Willie and Jessica show (called a farce in earlier times) had moved on
to bigger and better things.

Ah well, hope still springs... etc.
Cheers,

Bruce


I think you're the one who's the farce if that's your attitude.


farce ~ noun rare
1, a comedy characterized by broad satire and improbable situations

or

2.fill with a stuffing

It seems to fit. The poor benighted little girl asking all the silly
questions to the manly expert.... Hopefully to get his attention.

Try
http://secure.theatreroyal.org/peo/s...nimalmagnetism
for an example.



Cheers,

Bruce

Wilbur Hubbard March 4th 11 03:32 PM

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"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:34:04 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:29:52 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:36:55 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:10:10 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
om...
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:04:40 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

I would have told her to fall off on purpose so I could do some
man-overboard rescue practice drills.

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


As long as you didn't push me! FYI, sorry I saw your email today, but
just didn't have the opportunity to give a thoughtful reply. I'll get
to it this evening after I get back from the gym. I hope you had a
nice day!

No rush. I took my time answering yours. . .

Also, Waldo sounds like an ass.

Agreed. He sounds bitter about something. Certainly, he can't still
think
Jessica B is just another nym for Wilbur Hubbard. If so, then he sure
can't
read with comprehension.


Wilbur Hubbard


I hope you got my email from earlier... so much going on. I really
don't have the time or energy for a bizzaro like Waldo.


Goodness, from the lack of posts recently I had thought that the
Willie and Jessica show (called a farce in earlier times) had moved on
to bigger and better things.

Ah well, hope still springs... etc.
Cheers,

Bruce


I think you're the one who's the farce if that's your attitude.


farce ~ noun rare
1, a comedy characterized by broad satire and improbable situations



Then she's 100% correct as that fits you to a tee. Your failed attempt at a
circumnavigation was a comedy of errors based mostly upon poor judgement.
Your failure became a satire of voyaging and you ended up in an unprobably
situation being stuck at the Bangkok docks for 30 or so years now.



or

2.fill with a stuffing



Well, that applies as you are definitely full of it. LOL!



It seems to fit. The poor benighted little girl asking all the silly
questions to the manly expert.... Hopefully to get his attention.



Look at it this way. The lovely, talented, intelligent, desirable, fit and
sexy Jessica B is very capable and she easily recognizes talent, experience
and authenticity in the newsgroup. That's why she has gravitated towards
yours truly and has given you the cold shoulder you deserve for trying to
belittle her.

One of these days maybe the Jessica and I can get together and I'll be sure
to post a photo or two of her loveliness aboard my fine yacht just to show
you what you've caused yourself to miss out on because of your ungentlemanly
and crass behavior.


Wilbur Hubbard




Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. March 4th 11 03:34 PM

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"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:15:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip



I just hope these morons keep it up. If they can't tell a real woman from
Wilbur Hubbard then they can't read with comprehension nor can they relate
to a real woman. If this keeps up, pretty soon I'll have you all for
myself.
But, I'll have to figure out a way to get rid of that blankity-blank gas
can
guy. LOL! Maybe I'll drill small holes in his pitons.


Wilbur Hubbard


HAH! Gas can guy... I'll start calling him that. I was calling him Mr.
Rescue, but I like that better.


You might **** him off. ;-) Then where will you be the NEXT time you run
out of gas?


Umm... what's a piton? Mountain climbing... that's all I could come up
with.


Yes, they put them into cracks in the rocks and tie their safety lines on
them. If they are drilled full of holes they might fail. You did say he was
a rock climber, didn't you. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard






Wilbur Hubbard March 4th 11 03:47 PM

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"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
snip


You need to sail where it's warm or hot. It's ever so much more fun. The
water is also warm and swimming and snorkeling is just great. I heard they
might be getting SNOW in San Francisco today. Brrrr. It's 83 degrees
outside
today with a nice 10-12mph south wind.


I think I heard a report of snow in Carmel! That's amazing. So much
for this global warming nonsense. Brrr is right.



But the brainwashed liberal drones who believe the human-caused global
warming lie will tell you that one of the things global warming does is to
cause cold and snowy winters. They will also tell you that global warming
can cause warm, dry winters. They will tell you anything that strikes their
moronic fancy and they will wholeheartedly believe every contradictory bit
of it. Liberals are simply unable to think analytically. Actually, they
don't really think at all; they just parrot the party-line propaganda.


No interest in San Fran... sorry. It's fun to visit for a few days,
after that it's just to weird.


Nothing but a modern day Sodom and Gommorah. I wouldn't mind seeing a giant
earthquake that sinks the self-satisfied sodomite population to the bottom
of the ocean. Well, perhaps that's being a bit too harsh. How about 95% of
the self-satisfied sodomites?

Seems like maybe government officials should worry more about drug
runners than people minding their own business on a sailboat?



Exactly. But, those coward government officials won't mess with people who
shoot at them like big illegal drugs cartels. They'd rather harass
defenseless, law-abiding citizens who are minding their own business
trying
to enjoy life.


I'm not much for people doing drugs, but if they don't hurt anyone
perhaps it's not so bad. I have to participate in regular drug testing
(work req.), so I'm not going to risk my job. I smoked a joint in
college. It just wasn't that interesting.


I hope you weren't a dumb as Bill Clinton who didn't inhale. LOL! Yah,
right!

We had to do random drug test where I worked, too. And it was a
zero-tolerance workplace. One positive result and you were history. Yet,
some people got tested and got fired - marijuana mostly, one idiot for
cocaine. So stupid to have warped priorities that put smoking dope above a
well-paying job with excellent benefits. Even if you were driving along in a
company car minding your own business and some fool ran into you you were
tested for drugs. Any accident actually, if you hurt yourself like spraining
an ankle, cutting yourself badly or anything like that which needed medical
attention you were required to **** in a bottle for them. If it was positive
you were fired and you got no workers comp either.

Wilbur Hubbard




Waldo March 4th 11 04:52 PM

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Goodness, from the lack of posts recently I had thought that the
Willie and Jessica show (called a farce in earlier times) had moved on
to bigger and better things.

Ah well, hope still springs... etc.
Cheers,

Bruce


Wilbur/Capt. Neal had to go ashore to get the battery in his ankle bracelet.
replaced. Jessica De Plume has been over at rec.boats getting her ass
wooped.


Jessica B March 4th 11 11:44 PM

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On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 19:14:11 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:34:04 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:29:52 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:36:55 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:10:10 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
om...
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:04:40 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

I would have told her to fall off on purpose so I could do some
man-overboard rescue practice drills.

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


As long as you didn't push me! FYI, sorry I saw your email today, but
just didn't have the opportunity to give a thoughtful reply. I'll get
to it this evening after I get back from the gym. I hope you had a
nice day!

No rush. I took my time answering yours. . .

Also, Waldo sounds like an ass.

Agreed. He sounds bitter about something. Certainly, he can't still think
Jessica B is just another nym for Wilbur Hubbard. If so, then he sure can't
read with comprehension.


Wilbur Hubbard


I hope you got my email from earlier... so much going on. I really
don't have the time or energy for a bizzaro like Waldo.


Goodness, from the lack of posts recently I had thought that the
Willie and Jessica show (called a farce in earlier times) had moved on
to bigger and better things.

Ah well, hope still springs... etc.
Cheers,

Bruce


I think you're the one who's the farce if that's your attitude.


farce ~ noun rare
1, a comedy characterized by broad satire and improbable situations

or

2.fill with a stuffing

It seems to fit. The poor benighted little girl asking all the silly
questions to the manly expert.... Hopefully to get his attention.

Try
http://secure.theatreroyal.org/peo/s...nimalmagnetism
for an example.



Cheers,

Bruce


Sounds like you're jealous. Aren't you happily married?

Jessica B March 4th 11 11:51 PM

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On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:32:05 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:34:04 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:29:52 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:36:55 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:10:10 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
news:psqdm6d7ajlcjtejpj21i0pceqkn6mma23@4ax. com...
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:04:40 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

I would have told her to fall off on purpose so I could do some
man-overboard rescue practice drills.

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


As long as you didn't push me! FYI, sorry I saw your email today, but
just didn't have the opportunity to give a thoughtful reply. I'll get
to it this evening after I get back from the gym. I hope you had a
nice day!

No rush. I took my time answering yours. . .

Also, Waldo sounds like an ass.

Agreed. He sounds bitter about something. Certainly, he can't still
think
Jessica B is just another nym for Wilbur Hubbard. If so, then he sure
can't
read with comprehension.


Wilbur Hubbard


I hope you got my email from earlier... so much going on. I really
don't have the time or energy for a bizzaro like Waldo.


Goodness, from the lack of posts recently I had thought that the
Willie and Jessica show (called a farce in earlier times) had moved on
to bigger and better things.

Ah well, hope still springs... etc.
Cheers,

Bruce

I think you're the one who's the farce if that's your attitude.


farce ~ noun rare
1, a comedy characterized by broad satire and improbable situations



Then she's 100% correct as that fits you to a tee. Your failed attempt at a
circumnavigation was a comedy of errors based mostly upon poor judgement.
Your failure became a satire of voyaging and you ended up in an unprobably
situation being stuck at the Bangkok docks for 30 or so years now.



or

2.fill with a stuffing



Well, that applies as you are definitely full of it. LOL!



It seems to fit. The poor benighted little girl asking all the silly
questions to the manly expert.... Hopefully to get his attention.



Look at it this way. The lovely, talented, intelligent, desirable, fit and
sexy Jessica B is very capable and she easily recognizes talent, experience
and authenticity in the newsgroup. That's why she has gravitated towards
yours truly and has given you the cold shoulder you deserve for trying to
belittle her.

One of these days maybe the Jessica and I can get together and I'll be sure
to post a photo or two of her loveliness aboard my fine yacht just to show
you what you've caused yourself to miss out on because of your ungentlemanly
and crass behavior.


Wilbur Hubbard



What's most attractive about men in general is when they don't condemn
a woman because of who she is. I most appreciate it when a man bothers
to answer a question. I most least appreciate it when a man is so
insecure that they make all sorts of vile claims without a shred of
evidence.

I think if it ever worked out for me to go sailing with you or even
meet somewhere for a drink and we documented with a picture, they
would have a mental breakdown.

Jessica B March 4th 11 11:51 PM

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On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 11:52:35 -0500, "Waldo" wrote:

Goodness, from the lack of posts recently I had thought that the
Willie and Jessica show (called a farce in earlier times) had moved on
to bigger and better things.

Ah well, hope still springs... etc.
Cheers,

Bruce


Wilbur/Capt. Neal had to go ashore to get the battery in his ankle bracelet.
replaced. Jessica De Plume has been over at rec.boats getting her ass
wooped.


I think you're a psycho.

Jessica B March 4th 11 11:53 PM

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On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:34:55 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:15:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip



I just hope these morons keep it up. If they can't tell a real woman from
Wilbur Hubbard then they can't read with comprehension nor can they relate
to a real woman. If this keeps up, pretty soon I'll have you all for
myself.
But, I'll have to figure out a way to get rid of that blankity-blank gas
can
guy. LOL! Maybe I'll drill small holes in his pitons.


Wilbur Hubbard


HAH! Gas can guy... I'll start calling him that. I was calling him Mr.
Rescue, but I like that better.


You might **** him off. ;-) Then where will you be the NEXT time you run
out of gas?


That's true... now that I have his cell! LOL


Umm... what's a piton? Mountain climbing... that's all I could come up
with.


Yes, they put them into cracks in the rocks and tie their safety lines on
them. If they are drilled full of holes they might fail. You did say he was
a rock climber, didn't you. LOL!


Oh.. ok. I'm definitely NOT a rock climber.

Jessica B March 4th 11 11:59 PM

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On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:47:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
snip


You need to sail where it's warm or hot. It's ever so much more fun. The
water is also warm and swimming and snorkeling is just great. I heard they
might be getting SNOW in San Francisco today. Brrrr. It's 83 degrees
outside
today with a nice 10-12mph south wind.


I think I heard a report of snow in Carmel! That's amazing. So much
for this global warming nonsense. Brrr is right.



But the brainwashed liberal drones who believe the human-caused global
warming lie will tell you that one of the things global warming does is to
cause cold and snowy winters. They will also tell you that global warming
can cause warm, dry winters. They will tell you anything that strikes their
moronic fancy and they will wholeheartedly believe every contradictory bit
of it. Liberals are simply unable to think analytically. Actually, they
don't really think at all; they just parrot the party-line propaganda.


If there's one thing I appreciate is a consistent explanation, but as
you point out, it doesn't seem to happen from that side of the debate.
I think there is climate change happening, but that's always been the
case. I read somewhere sun spots are on the rise (more than usual in
the cycles). What about that???


No interest in San Fran... sorry. It's fun to visit for a few days,
after that it's just to weird.


Nothing but a modern day Sodom and Gommorah. I wouldn't mind seeing a giant
earthquake that sinks the self-satisfied sodomite population to the bottom
of the ocean. Well, perhaps that's being a bit too harsh. How about 95% of
the self-satisfied sodomites?


I don't wish anyone dead. It's a pretty wild place, and it just gets
old after a while. I really don't want to have that sort of behavior
in my face over and over. I'm sure there are normal people who live
there... how they can stand it though is beyond me.

Seems like maybe government officials should worry more about drug
runners than people minding their own business on a sailboat?


Exactly. But, those coward government officials won't mess with people who
shoot at them like big illegal drugs cartels. They'd rather harass
defenseless, law-abiding citizens who are minding their own business
trying
to enjoy life.


I'm not much for people doing drugs, but if they don't hurt anyone
perhaps it's not so bad. I have to participate in regular drug testing
(work req.), so I'm not going to risk my job. I smoked a joint in
college. It just wasn't that interesting.


I hope you weren't a dumb as Bill Clinton who didn't inhale. LOL! Yah,
right!


It just didn't do anything for me. Ok. I don't like Clinton.. never
did, but he was really handsome when he was younger... lol


We had to do random drug test where I worked, too. And it was a
zero-tolerance workplace. One positive result and you were history. Yet,
some people got tested and got fired - marijuana mostly, one idiot for
cocaine. So stupid to have warped priorities that put smoking dope above a
well-paying job with excellent benefits. Even if you were driving along in a
company car minding your own business and some fool ran into you you were
tested for drugs. Any accident actually, if you hurt yourself like spraining
an ankle, cutting yourself badly or anything like that which needed medical
attention you were required to **** in a bottle for them. If it was positive
you were fired and you got no workers comp either.

Wilbur Hubbard



I think if you're job is on the line (certainly these days!), why
would you risk it?

We have basically the same policy... all injuries have to be reported,
you have to see someone, and you have to take a drug test. I got
something in my eye a couple of years ago... it was sort of stupid to
have to take a drug test, but those were the rules.

I don't think you should get any workers comp if you're stoned and you
get hurt.

Bruce[_3_] March 5th 11 12:34 AM

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On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:32:05 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:34:04 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:29:52 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:36:55 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:10:10 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
news:psqdm6d7ajlcjtejpj21i0pceqkn6mma23@4ax. com...
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:04:40 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

I would have told her to fall off on purpose so I could do some
man-overboard rescue practice drills.

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


As long as you didn't push me! FYI, sorry I saw your email today, but
just didn't have the opportunity to give a thoughtful reply. I'll get
to it this evening after I get back from the gym. I hope you had a
nice day!

No rush. I took my time answering yours. . .

Also, Waldo sounds like an ass.

Agreed. He sounds bitter about something. Certainly, he can't still
think
Jessica B is just another nym for Wilbur Hubbard. If so, then he sure
can't
read with comprehension.


Wilbur Hubbard


I hope you got my email from earlier... so much going on. I really
don't have the time or energy for a bizzaro like Waldo.


Goodness, from the lack of posts recently I had thought that the
Willie and Jessica show (called a farce in earlier times) had moved on
to bigger and better things.

Ah well, hope still springs... etc.
Cheers,

Bruce

I think you're the one who's the farce if that's your attitude.


farce ~ noun rare
1, a comedy characterized by broad satire and improbable situations



Then she's 100% correct as that fits you to a tee. Your failed attempt at a
circumnavigation was a comedy of errors based mostly upon poor judgement.
Your failure became a satire of voyaging and you ended up in an unprobably
situation being stuck at the Bangkok docks for 30 or so years now.


Well, as you are making the noise would you like to provide some sort
of background for your remarks?

I've repeatedly said that I never had the intent of making a
circumnavigation and given that I've lived in Thailand for the past 40
years I wonder why I would want to make a circumnavigation?

I've stated innumerable times that my boat is in Phuket and even
furnished a Google view of the marina and pointed out my boat. You
keep rambling on about Bangkok Docks (which is actually the name of a
company that repairs ships).

In short Willie you don't know what you are talking about. I've
mentioned this before and you continue to prove me right by posting
even more inane remarks. Oars inside the boat......

2.fill with a stuffing



Well, that applies as you are definitely full of it. LOL!



It seems to fit. The poor benighted little girl asking all the silly
questions to the manly expert.... Hopefully to get his attention.



Look at it this way. The lovely, talented, intelligent, desirable, fit and
sexy Jessica B is very capable and she easily recognizes talent, experience
and authenticity in the newsgroup. That's why she has gravitated towards
yours truly and has given you the cold shoulder you deserve for trying to
belittle her.


Hopefully you are correct that she has given me a cold shoulder as my
family would probably look askance at me associating, even virtually,
with anyone so ill informed.


One of these days maybe the Jessica and I can get together and I'll be sure
to post a photo or two of her loveliness aboard my fine yacht just to show
you what you've caused yourself to miss out on because of your ungentlemanly
and crass behavior.



Wilbur Hubbard



Willie-boy take a look at
http://captainvids.com/boating-video...-haven-marina/
which, as the title says was taken at yacht Haven Marina, where I kept
my sailboat, where I met the bloke, Aron Meder, a real sailor.

Aron sails a Carina 20 (you can find that on the Web) which actually
measures 19 ft. so here we have a young bloke sailing around the world
(he completed his circumnavigation) who really doesn't have much to
say other then "I wanted to go so I bought the biggest boat I could
afford and went".

On the other hand we have a bloke sitting on a 26 ft. boat, at anchor,
for years and years, blathering that HE is a sailor.

A farce indeed.

Cheers,

Bruce

Bruce[_3_] March 5th 11 12:37 AM

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On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:34:55 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:15:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip



I just hope these morons keep it up. If they can't tell a real woman from
Wilbur Hubbard then they can't read with comprehension nor can they relate
to a real woman. If this keeps up, pretty soon I'll have you all for
myself.
But, I'll have to figure out a way to get rid of that blankity-blank gas
can
guy. LOL! Maybe I'll drill small holes in his pitons.


Wilbur Hubbard


HAH! Gas can guy... I'll start calling him that. I was calling him Mr.
Rescue, but I like that better.


You might **** him off. ;-) Then where will you be the NEXT time you run
out of gas?


Umm... what's a piton? Mountain climbing... that's all I could come up
with.


Yes, they put them into cracks in the rocks and tie their safety lines on
them. If they are drilled full of holes they might fail. You did say he was
a rock climber, didn't you. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard



And, once again the fabled Willie proves his ignorance. Pitons are not
"put into cracks in the rocks" they are pounded in with a hammer.

Cheers,

Bruce

Wilbur Hubbard March 5th 11 01:15 AM

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"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:34:55 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:15:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip



I just hope these morons keep it up. If they can't tell a real woman
from
Wilbur Hubbard then they can't read with comprehension nor can they
relate
to a real woman. If this keeps up, pretty soon I'll have you all for
myself.
But, I'll have to figure out a way to get rid of that blankity-blank gas
can
guy. LOL! Maybe I'll drill small holes in his pitons.


Wilbur Hubbard


HAH! Gas can guy... I'll start calling him that. I was calling him Mr.
Rescue, but I like that better.


You might **** him off. ;-) Then where will you be the NEXT time you run
out of gas?


Umm... what's a piton? Mountain climbing... that's all I could come up
with.


Yes, they put them into cracks in the rocks and tie their safety lines on
them. If they are drilled full of holes they might fail. You did say he
was
a rock climber, didn't you. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard



And, once again the fabled Willie proves his ignorance. Pitons are not
"put into cracks in the rocks" they are pounded in with a hammer.



Poor uninformed one, I guess you never heard of a removable piton?

Try this:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/47833988...Patent-5484132

and this:

http://www.wikipatents.com/US-Patent...ethod-of-using

and this:

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/54...scription.html


And, hammering conventional pitons into cracks in the rock face is still a
form of putting them in. You lose again, Bruce. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard



Bruce[_3_] March 5th 11 11:57 AM

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On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:44:23 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 19:14:11 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:34:04 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:29:52 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:36:55 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:10:10 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
news:psqdm6d7ajlcjtejpj21i0pceqkn6mma23@4ax. com...
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:04:40 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

I would have told her to fall off on purpose so I could do some
man-overboard rescue practice drills.

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


As long as you didn't push me! FYI, sorry I saw your email today, but
just didn't have the opportunity to give a thoughtful reply. I'll get
to it this evening after I get back from the gym. I hope you had a
nice day!

No rush. I took my time answering yours. . .

Also, Waldo sounds like an ass.

Agreed. He sounds bitter about something. Certainly, he can't still think
Jessica B is just another nym for Wilbur Hubbard. If so, then he sure can't
read with comprehension.


Wilbur Hubbard


I hope you got my email from earlier... so much going on. I really
don't have the time or energy for a bizzaro like Waldo.


Goodness, from the lack of posts recently I had thought that the
Willie and Jessica show (called a farce in earlier times) had moved on
to bigger and better things.

Ah well, hope still springs... etc.
Cheers,

Bruce

I think you're the one who's the farce if that's your attitude.


farce ~ noun rare
1, a comedy characterized by broad satire and improbable situations

or

2.fill with a stuffing

It seems to fit. The poor benighted little girl asking all the silly
questions to the manly expert.... Hopefully to get his attention.

Try
http://secure.theatreroyal.org/peo/s...nimalmagnetism
for an example.



Cheers,

Bruce


Sounds like you're jealous. Aren't you happily married?



Well, I guess I'm happy - been married to the same woman for 40 years.

Cheers,

Bruce

Bruce[_3_] March 5th 11 12:02 PM

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On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:15:52 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:34:55 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:15:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip


I just hope these morons keep it up. If they can't tell a real woman
from
Wilbur Hubbard then they can't read with comprehension nor can they
relate
to a real woman. If this keeps up, pretty soon I'll have you all for
myself.
But, I'll have to figure out a way to get rid of that blankity-blank gas
can
guy. LOL! Maybe I'll drill small holes in his pitons.


Wilbur Hubbard


HAH! Gas can guy... I'll start calling him that. I was calling him Mr.
Rescue, but I like that better.

You might **** him off. ;-) Then where will you be the NEXT time you run
out of gas?


Umm... what's a piton? Mountain climbing... that's all I could come up
with.

Yes, they put them into cracks in the rocks and tie their safety lines on
them. If they are drilled full of holes they might fail. You did say he
was
a rock climber, didn't you. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard



And, once again the fabled Willie proves his ignorance. Pitons are not
"put into cracks in the rocks" they are pounded in with a hammer.



Poor uninformed one, I guess you never heard of a removable piton?

Try this:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/47833988...Patent-5484132

and this:

http://www.wikipatents.com/US-Patent...ethod-of-using

and this:

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/54...scription.html



Ah... Willie, these are all patents, no record of them ever being
manufactured. Show us a vendor.... otherwise it is all smoke and
mirrors.

And, hammering conventional pitons into cracks in the rock face is still a
form of putting them in. You lose again, Bruce. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard



Nice footwork.... however "to put food in your mouth" hardly means to
drive it in with the heaviest hammer you can carry.

As I've said before... I keep saying that you are stupid; and you keep
proving it.

Cheers,

Bruce

Wilbur Hubbard March 5th 11 04:43 PM

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"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:15:52 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:34:55 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
m...
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:15:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip


I just hope these morons keep it up. If they can't tell a real woman
from
Wilbur Hubbard then they can't read with comprehension nor can they
relate
to a real woman. If this keeps up, pretty soon I'll have you all for
myself.
But, I'll have to figure out a way to get rid of that blankity-blank
gas
can
guy. LOL! Maybe I'll drill small holes in his pitons.


Wilbur Hubbard


HAH! Gas can guy... I'll start calling him that. I was calling him Mr.
Rescue, but I like that better.

You might **** him off. ;-) Then where will you be the NEXT time you
run
out of gas?


Umm... what's a piton? Mountain climbing... that's all I could come up
with.

Yes, they put them into cracks in the rocks and tie their safety lines
on
them. If they are drilled full of holes they might fail. You did say he
was
a rock climber, didn't you. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


And, once again the fabled Willie proves his ignorance. Pitons are not
"put into cracks in the rocks" they are pounded in with a hammer.



Poor uninformed one, I guess you never heard of a removable piton?

Try this:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/47833988...Patent-5484132

and this:

http://www.wikipatents.com/US-Patent...ethod-of-using

and this:

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/54...scription.html


And, hammering conventional pitons into cracks in the rock face is still a
form of putting them in. You lose again, Bruce. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


Hmmm, hoisted on his own piton.




LOL!



Wilbur Hubbard March 5th 11 05:08 PM

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"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
snip


What's most attractive about men in general is when they don't condemn
a woman because of who she is. I most appreciate it when a man bothers
to answer a question. I most least appreciate it when a man is so
insecure that they make all sorts of vile claims without a shred of
evidence.


Sounds a little like Waldo. . . About the only time I'll condemn a woman is
when she tries hard to act like a man and to usurp the rightful role of a
man. Many liberal woman are like that. They let this equality nonsense go
too far. Look at that harridan Pelosi. I couldn't imagine ANY man putting up
with THAT!

I think if it ever worked out for me to go sailing with you or even
meet somewhere for a drink and we documented with a picture, they
would have a mental breakdown.


They would claim it was a fake. They would yell, "Photoshopped!!" I think
we would need to shot a little video. Videos aren't easy to fake like still
photos. I could record you pulling up the anchor wearing only gloves and a
bikini. LOL! They wouldn't be able to deny it then.


Wilbur Hubbard






Wilbur Hubbard March 5th 11 05:20 PM

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"Bruce" wrote in message
...
snip


Ah... Willie, these are all patents, no record of them ever being
manufactured. Show us a vendor.... otherwise it is all smoke and
mirrors.


If you object to those, then here is a very popular cam piton that isn't
hammered in:

http://www.mrcarabiner.com/gear_shop...on--left-.html

You must enjoy being smacked down, Bruce. LOL! How many times must I prove
you wrong before you withdraw an erroneous statement?




Wilbur Hubbard



Wilbur Hubbard March 5th 11 05:38 PM

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"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:47:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
. ..
snip


You need to sail where it's warm or hot. It's ever so much more fun. The
water is also warm and swimming and snorkeling is just great. I heard
they
might be getting SNOW in San Francisco today. Brrrr. It's 83 degrees
outside
today with a nice 10-12mph south wind.

I think I heard a report of snow in Carmel! That's amazing. So much
for this global warming nonsense. Brrr is right.



But the brainwashed liberal drones who believe the human-caused global
warming lie will tell you that one of the things global warming does is to
cause cold and snowy winters. They will also tell you that global warming
can cause warm, dry winters. They will tell you anything that strikes
their
moronic fancy and they will wholeheartedly believe every contradictory bit
of it. Liberals are simply unable to think analytically. Actually, they
don't really think at all; they just parrot the party-line propaganda.


If there's one thing I appreciate is a consistent explanation, but as
you point out, it doesn't seem to happen from that side of the debate.
I think there is climate change happening, but that's always been the
case. I read somewhere sun spots are on the rise (more than usual in
the cycles). What about that???


Yours is the reasonable view. Saying "climate change" is redundant as that's
what climate does - it changes. It goes through natural and normal cycles.
There have been numerous warm periods and numerous ice ages throughout
history and well before mankind arrived on the planet. We happen to be in an
interglacial period right now and it's likely to be relatively short-lived
if past history is any kind of predictor of future performance.

It would be lucicrous to ignore Sol's energy output as the primary factor
affecting the various planets' temperatures. Even Venus with it's runaway
greenhouse effect will be slightly hotter during a cycle of greater solar
energy output. Not only are the polar ice caps melting somewhat on Earth but
the Martian polar ice and dry ice caps are also melting somewhat. Is there
man-made global warming on Mars. Yah right!




No interest in San Fran... sorry. It's fun to visit for a few days,
after that it's just to weird.


Nothing but a modern day Sodom and Gommorah. I wouldn't mind seeing a
giant
earthquake that sinks the self-satisfied sodomite population to the bottom
of the ocean. Well, perhaps that's being a bit too harsh. How about 95% of
the self-satisfied sodomites?


I don't wish anyone dead. It's a pretty wild place, and it just gets
old after a while. I really don't want to have that sort of behavior
in my face over and over. I'm sure there are normal people who live
there... how they can stand it though is beyond me.



God apparently wants them dead as He did destroy Soddom and Gomorrah for
much the same thing that's going on in San Francisco and Key West and New
Orleans today. But, you're right, it's up to God to decide who lives and who
dies and we humans shouldn't wish death on anybody - even disgusting creeps,
so I take it back.



snip

I hope you weren't a dumb as Bill Clinton who didn't inhale. LOL! Yah,
right!


It just didn't do anything for me. Ok. I don't like Clinton.. never
did, but he was really handsome when he was younger... lol


Freaking hillbilly, IMHO.


We had to do random drug test where I worked, too. And it was a
zero-tolerance workplace. One positive result and you were history. Yet,
some people got tested and got fired - marijuana mostly, one idiot for
cocaine. So stupid to have warped priorities that put smoking dope above a
well-paying job with excellent benefits. Even if you were driving along in
a
company car minding your own business and some fool ran into you you were
tested for drugs. Any accident actually, if you hurt yourself like
spraining
an ankle, cutting yourself badly or anything like that which needed
medical
attention you were required to **** in a bottle for them. If it was
positive
you were fired and you got no workers comp either.


I think if your job is on the line (certainly these days!), why
would you risk it?


Because one is dumb as a box of rocks? LOL!

We have basically the same policy... all injuries have to be reported,
you have to see someone, and you have to take a drug test. I got
something in my eye a couple of years ago... it was sort of stupid to
have to take a drug test, but those were the rules.


We must be twins. I also got something poked in my eye - a sharp thorn from
a tree branch when I was working pinpointing a small water main leak in the
brush alongside of the roadway. It bloodied the white part of my eye so I
had to go see an eye doc. Automatic drug test. But, I didn't do drugs so, of
course it came back negative. I always worried about a blotched test where
some Rube in the lab did something wrong or mixed up the specimens or
something so it came back positive. But, they claimed to do double-blind
testing to rule out that sort of mistake.


I don't think you should get any workers comp if you're stoned and you
get hurt.



Agreed but with the caveat of responsibility. If you get accidently hurt
because of somebody else's negligence it's not really fair to punish you
even if you were stoned. Seems to me it would only be fair if your being
stoned contributed to or caused the accident.

Wilbur Hubbard



Wilbur Hubbard March 5th 11 05:43 PM

PFDs
 
"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
snipo

HAH! Gas can guy... I'll start calling him that. I was calling him Mr.
Rescue, but I like that better.


You might **** him off. ;-) Then where will you be the NEXT time you run
out of gas?


That's true... now that I have his cell! LOL


Better give it back. Just get his number next time. LOL!




Umm... what's a piton? Mountain climbing... that's all I could come up
with.


Yes, they put them into cracks in the rocks and tie their safety lines on
them. If they are drilled full of holes they might fail. You did say he
was
a rock climber, didn't you. LOL!


Oh.. ok. I'm definitely NOT a rock climber.


I don't think Bruce is, either. But, he probably knows something about
rocks - crack rocks. That's how muddled his thinking of late seems to be.
LOL!

Be sure to read my posts smacking Bruce down for his ignorant statement
about pitons all being hammered into the rock. I sure put him in his place.
Next time he might think twice before challenging this most eclectic sailor.

Wilbur Hubbard






Mark Borgerson March 5th 11 09:57 PM

PFDs
 
In article s.com,
llid says...

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:47:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

SNIP



No interest in San Fran... sorry. It's fun to visit for a few days,
after that it's just to weird.

Nothing but a modern day Sodom and Gommorah. I wouldn't mind seeing a
giant
earthquake that sinks the self-satisfied sodomite population to the bottom
of the ocean. Well, perhaps that's being a bit too harsh. How about 95% of
the self-satisfied sodomites?



If they're "self-satisfied", aren't they Onanists, and not sodomites?
;-)


Mark Borgerson


Bruce[_3_] March 5th 11 11:25 PM

PFDs
 
On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:20:12 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
snip


Ah... Willie, these are all patents, no record of them ever being
manufactured. Show us a vendor.... otherwise it is all smoke and
mirrors.


If you object to those, then here is a very popular cam piton that isn't
hammered in:

http://www.mrcarabiner.com/gear_shop...on--left-.html

You must enjoy being smacked down, Bruce. LOL! How many times must I prove
you wrong before you withdraw an erroneous statement?

Nice try Willie-boy but you need to read the small print. These are
specialized pitons to use in thin cracks. and you don't simply "place"
them into the crack you tap, i.e., use a hammer to drive them in. the
site you quoted has a spelling mistake (topping for tapping) but other
sites use the correct spelling.

So, once again you take a prat-fall right out in public.


Wilbur Hubbard

Cheers,

Bruce

Wilbur Hubbard March 5th 11 11:46 PM

PFDs
 
"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:20:12 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
snip


Ah... Willie, these are all patents, no record of them ever being
manufactured. Show us a vendor.... otherwise it is all smoke and
mirrors.


If you object to those, then here is a very popular cam piton that isn't
hammered in:

http://www.mrcarabiner.com/gear_shop...on--left-.html

You must enjoy being smacked down, Bruce. LOL! How many times must I prove
you wrong before you withdraw an erroneous statement?

Nice try Willie-boy but you need to read the small print. These are
specialized pitons to use in thin cracks. and you don't simply "place"
them into the crack you tap, i.e., use a hammer to drive them in. the
site you quoted has a spelling mistake (topping for tapping) but other
sites use the correct spelling.

So, once again you take a prat-fall right out in public.



But, the site mentions NOTHING about 'hammering them in.' And you said
pitons were always hammered in. One can tap in a cam type piton with another
piton, for example, or one can simply slide it in and the cam action
tightens it into the crack and makes it secure. No hammer necessary.

Try to read with comprehension, please.


Wilbur Hubbard



Bruce[_3_] March 6th 11 11:15 AM

PFDs
 
On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:46:43 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:20:12 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
snip


Ah... Willie, these are all patents, no record of them ever being
manufactured. Show us a vendor.... otherwise it is all smoke and
mirrors.

If you object to those, then here is a very popular cam piton that isn't
hammered in:

http://www.mrcarabiner.com/gear_shop...on--left-.html

You must enjoy being smacked down, Bruce. LOL! How many times must I prove
you wrong before you withdraw an erroneous statement?

Nice try Willie-boy but you need to read the small print. These are
specialized pitons to use in thin cracks. and you don't simply "place"
them into the crack you tap, i.e., use a hammer to drive them in. the
site you quoted has a spelling mistake (topping for tapping) but other
sites use the correct spelling.

So, once again you take a prat-fall right out in public.



But, the site mentions NOTHING about 'hammering them in.' And you said
pitons were always hammered in. One can tap in a cam type piton with another
piton, for example, or one can simply slide it in and the cam action
tightens it into the crack and makes it secure. No hammer necessary.

Try to read with comprehension, please.


Wilbur Hubbard


Willie, you are simply ridiculous. Here you are hanging over a 1,000
ft. drop and you go to place the next piton that is going to support
you as you rappel down the cliff face. And you are going to daintily
slide the piton in a crack, and hook on and let go your present
anchor?

You might say that you are; sitting there in your easy-boy recliner.
But if you really were up on that face you'd hammer that sucker in,
just like everyone does.

Cheers,

Bruce

Wilbur Hubbard March 6th 11 05:00 PM

PFDs
 
"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:46:43 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:20:12 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
m...
snip


Ah... Willie, these are all patents, no record of them ever being
manufactured. Show us a vendor.... otherwise it is all smoke and
mirrors.

If you object to those, then here is a very popular cam piton that isn't
hammered in:

http://www.mrcarabiner.com/gear_shop...on--left-.html

You must enjoy being smacked down, Bruce. LOL! How many times must I
prove
you wrong before you withdraw an erroneous statement?

Nice try Willie-boy but you need to read the small print. These are
specialized pitons to use in thin cracks. and you don't simply "place"
them into the crack you tap, i.e., use a hammer to drive them in. the
site you quoted has a spelling mistake (topping for tapping) but other
sites use the correct spelling.

So, once again you take a prat-fall right out in public.



But, the site mentions NOTHING about 'hammering them in.' And you said
pitons were always hammered in. One can tap in a cam type piton with
another
piton, for example, or one can simply slide it in and the cam action
tightens it into the crack and makes it secure. No hammer necessary.

Try to read with comprehension, please.


Wilbur Hubbard


Willie, you are simply ridiculous. Here you are hanging over a 1,000
ft. drop and you go to place the next piton that is going to support
you as you rappel down the cliff face. And you are going to daintily
slide the piton in a crack, and hook on and let go your present
anchor?

You might say that you are; sitting there in your easy-boy recliner.
But if you really were up on that face you'd hammer that sucker in,
just like everyone does.

Cheers,

Bruce




Duh! Rock climbing is all about GOING UP! Real rock climbers use pitons
mainly for belay and safety lines. Most rock faces nowadays have lots of
pitons already in place. Cam-type pitons are for existing cracks and they
work just fine with no hammering in at all.

I have done some rock climbing, have you? My rock climbing was mostly in the
context of spelunking. You don't hammer pitons into solid rock. You must
look for cracks or soft spots. Cam type pitons are very secure when placed
in cracks of workable width. Get a clue.

Wilbur Hubbard




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