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On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:15:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:48:35 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: I'm guessing that on a two or three year cruise it might be nice to processionally have clean clothes. But that's just me. YMMV? Steve Lusardi wrote: Jessica, I hate laundermats. I have a washer and dryer on my boat. They are very useful. Here is a tip, never use a belt drive model. They throw the belt off when sailing. Steve "Jessica B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:18:51 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: What do you think, Wilbur? Would this one do? Cannibal http://www.sailingtexas.com/scustom54100.html Wow... pretty boat, but isn't it a pain to get in an out from where the big wheel is? Seems like they could have made it simpler. A washer/dryer on a sailboat??? That's weird! -- 47 is special Doesn't the boat ever stop somewhere? Seems like all you have to do is pull in somewhere and deal with it. What happens in the middle of the ocean? You're going to do laundry in your bring-along system? Seems at odds with sailing some how. I can't help loving your sensible attitude. Thanks! I've been accused of that before. You are 100% correct. Some of these lubbers don't know what sailing's all about, even when they've abused (as opposed to used) a sailboat for years. Some, like those who carry shoreside-type washer/driers and run them when sailing (or when anchored) are just plain pathetic. Seems like you couldn't do much if it's running either... just sit there an listen to the noise. Gross. What's the point. When sailing one needs minimal clothing. To wash that clothing, when necessary, all that's needed is a bucket full of salt water, a good detergent that bubbles up in salt water and bleach. Hand scrubbing some shorts and t-shirts takes little time and one hand-rinse with fresh water will rid them of salt residue so they dry properly. Drying them in the wind and sun takes less than a half hour. Well, I guess that depends on the temperature. I'd want layers if things were cold, but in warm weather, just shorts and a t top. Do you make your guests wear shoes? My friend told me he does so nobody breaks toes. I hate wearing shoes if I don't have to. Sorry if that bursts your bubble, but I'm not a high-heels sort of person. I mean I can, but I just don't. Instead, some so-called sailors load their boats up with all sorts of lubberly crap that requires lubberly amount of energy and I'm convinced they do so because they really are AFRAID to sail and live the sailing life so they sail a house, apartment or condo instead. I wouldn't mind this sort of stupidity except for the fact that it spreads out from their boats like a giant sewage slick. The noise of generators 24/7 to run all this crap impinges upon the peace, quiet and clean air of anchorages everywhere. And, these fools actually think they are sailors. They think they are cool and they actually brag about their selfish and anti-social activities on Usenet. Yeah, yeah! That's what I was thinking... all that noise. I sure as heck don't want to listen to something running while I'm sipping my daiquiri. They are disgusting, selfish and ignorant, bothersome losers. Sounds like you've had your run-ins with them. It must be nice if you can find a quiet spot. |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... snipped some I can't help loving your sensible attitude. Thanks! I've been accused of that before. You're a rare type these days. . . You are 100% correct. Some of these lubbers don't know what sailing's all about, even when they've abused (as opposed to used) a sailboat for years. Some, like those who carry shoreside-type washer/driers and run them when sailing (or when anchored) are just plain pathetic. Seems like you couldn't do much if it's running either... just sit there an listen to the noise. Gross. What's the point. I guess the point is these lubbers who pretend to be sailors are actually comforted by having familiar household appliances running. I suppose it relieves the tension the feel on a boat so they use it as a security blanket of sorts. I don't know if you've spent any time in or around boats but very ludicrous is when so-called sailors become all insecure in any kind of moderate to heavy winds so what do they do? They start up the diesel and keep it running on 'standby'. Talk about Binky city. LOL! When sailing one needs minimal clothing. To wash that clothing, when necessary, all that's needed is a bucket full of salt water, a good detergent that bubbles up in salt water and bleach. Hand scrubbing some shorts and t-shirts takes little time and one hand-rinse with fresh water will rid them of salt residue so they dry properly. Drying them in the wind and sun takes less than a half hour. Well, I guess that depends on the temperature. I'd want layers if things were cold, but in warm weather, just shorts and a t top. Do you make your guests wear shoes? My friend told me he does so nobody breaks toes. I hate wearing shoes if I don't have to. Sorry if that bursts your bubble, but I'm not a high-heels sort of person. I mean I can, but I just don't. I suppose I'm spoiled here in southern Florida. It gets a little chilly from time to time in the winter but most of the year it's shorts, sandals and t-shirt time. Shoes are for the land. I don't allow cigarette smoking aboard nor do I allow shoes worn. Nothing beats bare feet. If one is so clumsy that they stub a toe then I say, "TOUGH." So no bubble busted. Actually any enclosed footwear is bad for the feet. Makes a great environment for smelly bacteria and hungry fungus. Instead, some so-called sailors load their boats up with all sorts of lubberly crap that requires lubberly amount of energy and I'm convinced they do so because they really are AFRAID to sail and live the sailing life so they sail a house, apartment or condo instead. I wouldn't mind this sort of stupidity except for the fact that it spreads out from their boats like a giant sewage slick. The noise of generators 24/7 to run all this crap impinges upon the peace, quiet and clean air of anchorages everywhere. And, these fools actually think they are sailors. They think they are cool and they actually brag about their selfish and anti-social activities on Usenet. Yeah, yeah! That's what I was thinking... all that noise. I sure as heck don't want to listen to something running while I'm sipping my daiquiri. You are so well-grounded. Why can't everybody be a little less selfish and a little more concerned about peace and quiet - especially in an anchorage. Are they so stupid and/or rude that they think their individual noise has greater rights than others peace and quiet. Just who are these people who are so self-centered and arrogant? Not only do they make noise but they pollute the atmosphere doing it. Any boat downwind from a diesel motor running will be forced to breathe dangerous and obnoxious fumes. How rude is THAT? Your sipping a daiquiri bothers nobody at all while making noise and running smelly generators bothers EVERYBODY. The really sad thing is real sailors don't do that kind of crap - it's just the pretenders doing it and ruining an anchorage for everybody. I just wish these cretins would buy an RV and stay ashore. They really are nothing but trailer park trash cum marina trash cum pretend sailor. "Hey lookit meeeee!" types. They are disgusting, selfish and ignorant, bothersome losers. Sounds like you've had your run-ins with them. It must be nice if you can find a quiet spot. Believe me I have. I get settled into a nice quiet anchorage by mid-afternoon and around sunset here comes the obnoxious twits who come motoring in, anchor directly upwind of me, the only other boat in the anchorage, and about three boat lengths away. Do they think I love company so much that I need a close neighbor? They anchor by committee which is the moron at the helm yelling at the top of his lungs at the poor wife at the bow dealing with the anchor. Then they don't even back down on the anchor. They just drop it with about twenty feet of chain lying right on top of it. Then they jump in the inflatable with the 25 HP outboard, they coax in the barking dog. Then off they roar making a big wake. Then they come back after the dog has shat on somebody's lawn with bags of groceries and cases of beer and then they proceed to play loud music and get drunk and holler and scream until about 2 o'clock in the morning. This is what sailing has come to and most of the imbeciles here in this group actually defend that kind of behavior because they, themselves, regularly engage in it. It's a truly sad state of affairs. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Jan 25, 1:36*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message ... snipped some I can't help loving your sensible attitude. Thanks! I've been accused of that before. You're a rare type these days. . . You are 100% correct. Some of these lubbers don't know what sailing's all about, even when they've abused (as opposed to used) a sailboat for years. Some, like those who carry shoreside-type washer/driers and run them when sailing (or when anchored) are just plain pathetic. Seems like you couldn't do much if it's running either... just sit there an listen to the noise. Gross. What's the point. I guess the point is these lubbers who pretend to be sailors are actually comforted by having familiar household appliances running. I suppose it relieves the tension the feel on a boat so they use it as a security blanket of sorts. I don't know if you've spent any time in or around boats but very ludicrous is when so-called sailors become all insecure in any kind of moderate to heavy winds so what do they do? They start up the diesel and keep it running on 'standby'. *Talk about Binky city. LOL! When sailing one needs minimal clothing. To wash that clothing, when necessary, all that's needed is a bucket full of salt water, a good detergent that bubbles up in salt water and bleach. Hand scrubbing some shorts and t-shirts takes little time and one hand-rinse with fresh water will rid them of salt residue so they dry properly. Drying them in the wind and sun takes less than a half hour. Well, I guess that depends on the temperature. I'd want layers if things were cold, but in warm weather, just shorts and a t top. Do you make your guests wear shoes? My friend told me he does so nobody breaks toes. I hate wearing shoes if I don't have to. Sorry if that bursts your bubble, but I'm not a high-heels sort of person. I mean I can, but I just don't. I suppose I'm spoiled here in southern Florida. It gets a little chilly from time to time in the winter but most of the year it's shorts, sandals and t-shirt time. Shoes are for the land. I don't allow cigarette smoking aboard nor do I allow shoes worn. Nothing beats bare feet. If one is so clumsy that they stub a toe then I say, "TOUGH." So no bubble busted. Actually any enclosed footwear is bad for the feet. Makes a great environment for smelly bacteria and hungry fungus. Instead, some so-called sailors load their boats up with all sorts of lubberly crap that requires lubberly amount of energy and I'm convinced they do so because they really are AFRAID to sail and live the sailing life so they sail a house, apartment or condo instead. I wouldn't mind this sort of stupidity except for the fact that it spreads out from their boats like a giant sewage slick. The noise of generators 24/7 to run all this crap impinges upon the peace, quiet and clean air of anchorages everywhere. And, these fools actually think they are sailors.. They think they are cool and they actually brag about their selfish and anti-social activities on Usenet. Yeah, yeah! That's what I was thinking... all that noise. I sure as heck don't want to listen to something running while I'm sipping my daiquiri. You are so well-grounded. Why can't everybody be a little less selfish and a little more concerned about peace and quiet - especially in an anchorage. Are they so stupid and/or rude that they think their individual noise has greater rights than others peace and quiet. Just who are these people who are so self-centered and arrogant? *Not only do they make noise but they pollute the atmosphere doing it. Any boat downwind from a diesel motor running will be forced to breathe dangerous and obnoxious fumes. How rude is THAT? Your sipping a daiquiri bothers nobody at all while making noise and running smelly generators bothers EVERYBODY. The really sad thing is real sailors don't do that kind of crap - it's just the pretenders doing it and ruining an anchorage for everybody. I just wish these cretins would buy an RV and stay ashore. They really are nothing but trailer park trash cum marina trash cum pretend sailor. "Hey lookit meeeee!" types. They are disgusting, selfish and ignorant, bothersome losers. Sounds like you've had your run-ins with them. It must be nice if you can find a quiet spot. Believe me I have. I get settled into a nice quiet anchorage by mid-afternoon and around sunset here comes the obnoxious twits who come motoring in, anchor directly upwind of me, the only other boat in the anchorage, and about three boat lengths away. Do they think I love company so much that I need a close neighbor? They anchor by committee which is the moron at the helm yelling at the top of his lungs at the poor wife at the bow dealing with the anchor. Then they don't even back down on the anchor.. They just drop it with about twenty feet of chain lying right on top of it. Then they jump in the inflatable with the 25 HP outboard, they coax in the barking dog. Then off they roar making a big wake. Then they come back after the dog has shat on somebody's lawn You crying about a dog "shatting" on a lawn? Nealessica you have been crapping in a bucket and dumpimg it overboard for what 20" years. You are so full of it, that would be over a pound a day or 365x20..OMG that over 7,300 pounds of SHAT. Someone should call the Environmental Health Department 50 High Point Rd # 104, Tavernier, FL 33070-2022 (305) 853-1900 Jeeeeze no wonder Florida real estate prices have plunged. And keep in mind, his boat is so small he only has room for one bucket..Head, shower, sink, combo. Can you imagine Jesseal? 7.300 LBS of raw sewage discharge in Marathon Florida. No wonder that Greek sponge fisherman kicked his ass up and down the dock. with bags of groceries and cases of beer and then they proceed to play loud music and get drunk and holler and scream until about 2 o'clock in the morning. This is what sailing has come to and most of the imbeciles here in this group actually defend that kind of behavior because they, themselves, regularly engage in it. It's a truly sad state of affairs. Wilbur Hubbard- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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"Joe" wrote in message
... snip And keep in mind, his boat is so small he only has room for one bucket..Head, shower, sink, combo. And keep in mind that Joe's boat lies in the muck and mire at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico - a victim of Joe's lack of seamanship. At least, if one expects to be a viable critic, one should not be such a demonstrably inept buffoon as to abandon a boat because of a cold frontal passage. Wilbur Hubbard |
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WaIIy wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:14:01 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote: And keep in mind, his boat is so small he only has room for one bucket..Head, shower, sink, combo. Good one. LOL... At least I have TWO sinks! -- Richard Lamb email me: web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb |
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 03:21:56 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote: WaIIy wrote: On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:14:01 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote: And keep in mind, his boat is so small he only has room for one bucket..Head, shower, sink, combo. Good one. LOL... At least I have TWO sinks! But very small :-) Cheers, Bruce |
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Bruce wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 03:21:56 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: WaIIy wrote: On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:14:01 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote: And keep in mind, his boat is so small he only has room for one bucket..Head, shower, sink, combo. Good one. LOL... At least I have TWO sinks! But very small :-) Cheers, Bruce True enough... But it has a proper head - not a bucket. (but no washing machine ![]() -- Richard Lamb email me: web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb |
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"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m... WaIIy wrote: On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:14:01 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote: And keep in mind, his boat is so small he only has room for one bucket..Head, shower, sink, combo. Good one. LOL... At least I have TWO sinks! Joe will have two sinks as well, as soon as the poor schmuck can beg, borrow or steal enough money to acquire another boat which he will also sink until and unless he learns a few seamanship skills in the meantime . . . Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:36:52 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . snipped some I can't help loving your sensible attitude. Thanks! I've been accused of that before. You're a rare type these days. . . Well, thanks! Actually, I have some friends who are pretty sensible. They can't believe I work for the city. You are 100% correct. Some of these lubbers don't know what sailing's all about, even when they've abused (as opposed to used) a sailboat for years. Some, like those who carry shoreside-type washer/driers and run them when sailing (or when anchored) are just plain pathetic. Seems like you couldn't do much if it's running either... just sit there an listen to the noise. Gross. What's the point. I guess the point is these lubbers who pretend to be sailors are actually comforted by having familiar household appliances running. I suppose it relieves the tension the feel on a boat so they use it as a security blanket of sorts. I don't even like to listen to the TV... maybe some football or baseball at a friend's place. I don't know if you've spent any time in or around boats but very ludicrous is when so-called sailors become all insecure in any kind of moderate to heavy winds so what do they do? They start up the diesel and keep it running on 'standby'. Talk about Binky city. LOL! Not really a lot. It's pretty light wind down this way, but I don't think the boats around here go out much. Every time I visit a marina, just about every boat is at the dock. The big ones never seem to leave.. mostly smaller ones who look like they know what they're doing. When sailing one needs minimal clothing. To wash that clothing, when necessary, all that's needed is a bucket full of salt water, a good detergent that bubbles up in salt water and bleach. Hand scrubbing some shorts and t-shirts takes little time and one hand-rinse with fresh water will rid them of salt residue so they dry properly. Drying them in the wind and sun takes less than a half hour. Well, I guess that depends on the temperature. I'd want layers if things were cold, but in warm weather, just shorts and a t top. Do you make your guests wear shoes? My friend told me he does so nobody breaks toes. I hate wearing shoes if I don't have to. Sorry if that bursts your bubble, but I'm not a high-heels sort of person. I mean I can, but I just don't. I suppose I'm spoiled here in southern Florida. It gets a little chilly from time to time in the winter but most of the year it's shorts, sandals and t-shirt time. Shoes are for the land. I don't allow cigarette smoking aboard nor do I allow shoes worn. Nothing beats bare feet. If one is so clumsy that they stub a toe then I say, "TOUGH." So no bubble busted. Actually any enclosed footwear is bad for the feet. Makes a great environment for smelly bacteria and hungry fungus. I hate to wear closed shoes if I don't have to... I have to at work. a nice outfit because I have deal with the public when I travel around. Instead, some so-called sailors load their boats up with all sorts of lubberly crap that requires lubberly amount of energy and I'm convinced they do so because they really are AFRAID to sail and live the sailing life so they sail a house, apartment or condo instead. I wouldn't mind this sort of stupidity except for the fact that it spreads out from their boats like a giant sewage slick. The noise of generators 24/7 to run all this crap impinges upon the peace, quiet and clean air of anchorages everywhere. And, these fools actually think they are sailors. They think they are cool and they actually brag about their selfish and anti-social activities on Usenet. Yeah, yeah! That's what I was thinking... all that noise. I sure as heck don't want to listen to something running while I'm sipping my daiquiri. You are so well-grounded. Why can't everybody be a little less selfish and a little more concerned about peace and quiet - especially in an anchorage. Are they so stupid and/or rude that they think their individual noise has greater rights than others peace and quiet. Just who are these people who are so self-centered and arrogant? Not only do they make noise but they pollute the atmosphere doing it. Any boat downwind from a diesel motor running will be forced to breathe dangerous and obnoxious fumes. How rude is THAT? It's got to be the worst smell there is. I almost puked the last time I smelled it. Your sipping a daiquiri bothers nobody at all while making noise and running smelly generators bothers EVERYBODY. The really sad thing is real sailors don't do that kind of crap - it's just the pretenders doing it and ruining an anchorage for everybody. I just wish these cretins would buy an RV and stay ashore. They really are nothing but trailer park trash cum marina trash cum pretend sailor. "Hey lookit meeeee!" types. I can't stand it when my neighbors run their TVs full blast. How about other people?? Hello?? They are disgusting, selfish and ignorant, bothersome losers. Sounds like you've had your run-ins with them. It must be nice if you can find a quiet spot. Believe me I have. I get settled into a nice quiet anchorage by mid-afternoon and around sunset here comes the obnoxious twits who come motoring in, anchor directly upwind of me, the only other boat in the anchorage, and about three boat lengths away. Do they think I love company so much that I need a close neighbor? They anchor by committee which is the moron at the helm yelling at the top of his lungs at the poor wife at the bow dealing with the anchor. Then they don't even back down on the anchor. They just drop it with about twenty feet of chain lying right on top of it. Then they jump in the inflatable with the 25 HP outboard, they coax in the barking dog. Then off they roar making a big wake. Then they come back after the dog has shat on somebody's lawn with bags of groceries and cases of beer and then they proceed to play loud music and get drunk and holler and scream until about 2 o'clock in the morning. This is what sailing has come to and most of the imbeciles here in this group actually defend that kind of behavior because they, themselves, regularly engage in it. How do you deal with them? I hate yelling. I had an ex who yelled. Give me a break. I was smarter and he couldn't handle it. Dump time didn't come a day too soon! It's a truly sad state of affairs. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:36:52 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: snip You're a rare type these days. . . Well, thanks! Actually, I have some friends who are pretty sensible. They can't believe I work for the city. It must be difficult working alongside a bunch of liberals which is usually what you end up with in any government office. They hate conservatives and actively discriminate against them. So much for their vaunted 'diversity.' snip I guess the point is these lubbers who pretend to be sailors are actually comforted by having familiar household appliances running. I suppose it relieves the tension the feel on a boat so they use it as a security blanket of sorts. I don't even like to listen to the TV... maybe some football or baseball at a friend's place. Atta girl! I used to have a little TV years ago but I got so mad at how much of a waste of space it was that I ended up tossing it overboard in the Gulf Stream one fine day. Haven't missed TV since. The little snippets I get of it in public places such as stores and restaurants reconfirms my observation that TV is the main reason why much of the American public is a bunch of stupid, brainwashed, mindless consumers and hypocrite drones. The only place to get somewhat accurate and unbiased information is the radio. A shortwave radio receiver is a necessity so one can listen to radio around the world to get an unslanted view of what's going on. Even Radio Havana has more accurate reporting than the Voice of America or the Corporation for Public Broadcast - a taxpayer supported arm of the Democrat Party. I don't know if you've spent any time in or around boats but very ludicrous is when so-called sailors become all insecure in any kind of moderate to heavy winds so what do they do? They start up the diesel and keep it running on 'standby'. Talk about Binky city. LOL! Not really a lot. It's pretty light wind down this way, but I don't think the boats around here go out much. Every time I visit a marina, just about every boat is at the dock. The big ones never seem to leave.. mostly smaller ones who look like they know what they're doing. What you just said applies almost EVERYWHERE. Few things are more pathetic than the pretenders living in the Marinas or keeping their boats there where most of them rot away going unused year after year, just taking up space and making the Marina look like some floating, trailer park trash haven. It is a general truism that the bigger the boat the less it sails. You hit the nail right on the head with that one, JessicaB. Just look at all the thick-as-an-arm, power cords, hoses, dock lines, cable TV hook-ups,fenders, etc. that must be dealt with. Daunting. I can be underway in two minutes just by tying a float to my mooring lines and dropping it into the water. snip I suppose I'm spoiled here in southern Florida. It gets a little chilly from time to time in the winter but most of the year it's shorts, sandals and t-shirt time. Shoes are for the land. I don't allow cigarette smoking aboard nor do I allow shoes worn. Nothing beats bare feet. If one is so clumsy that they stub a toe then I say, "TOUGH." So no bubble busted. Actually any enclosed footwear is bad for the feet. Makes a great environment for smelly bacteria and hungry fungus. I hate to wear closed shoes if I don't have to... I have to at work. a nice outfit because I have deal with the public when I travel around. What kind of work do you do? snip You are so well-grounded. Why can't everybody be a little less selfish and a little more concerned about peace and quiet - especially in an anchorage. Are they so stupid and/or rude that they think their individual noise has greater rights than others peace and quiet. Just who are these people who are so self-centered and arrogant? Not only do they make noise but they pollute the atmosphere doing it. Any boat downwind from a diesel motor running will be forced to breathe dangerous and obnoxious fumes. How rude is THAT? It's got to be the worst smell there is. I almost puked the last time I smelled it. Many people become "seasick" on diesel powered boats not as much from the motion but from those obnoxious diesel fumes. I wish there were stricter emmission standards being enforced for diesel engines. snip I can't stand it when my neighbors run their TVs full blast. How about other people?? Hello?? You won't get much support among this bunch of lubbers who are addicted to their televisions. They are just so used to noise. Instead of doing the sensible thing and turning the noise down, they turn it up more and more to drown out all the other inconsiderate people who are making an infernal racket. It becomes a vicious circle of escalating noise. snip Believe me I have. I get settled into a nice quiet anchorage by mid-afternoon and around sunset here comes the obnoxious twits who come motoring in, anchor directly upwind of me, the only other boat in the anchorage, and about three boat lengths away. Do they think I love company so much that I need a close neighbor? They anchor by committee which is the moron at the helm yelling at the top of his lungs at the poor wife at the bow dealing with the anchor. Then they don't even back down on the anchor. They just drop it with about twenty feet of chain lying right on top of it. Then they jump in the inflatable with the 25 HP outboard, they coax in the barking dog. Then off they roar making a big wake. Then they come back after the dog has shat on somebody's lawn with bags of groceries and cases of beer and then they proceed to play loud music and get drunk and holler and scream until about 2 o'clock in the morning. This is what sailing has come to and most of the imbeciles here in this group actually defend that kind of behavior because they, themselves, regularly engage in it. How do you deal with them? I hate yelling. I had an ex who yelled. Give me a break. I was smarter and he couldn't handle it. Dump time didn't come a day too soon! Sadly, there isn't much one can do other than weighing anchor and moving someplace else far enough away where there aren't any inconsiderate morons within earshot. You can't reason with people who can't even understand they are not wanted in the area and are acting like Neanderthals. They have this attitude that the whole world revolves around them and everybody else can just bugger off. Wilbur Hubbard |