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Wilbur Hubbard February 1st 11 09:48 PM

Scenic overload
 
"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:08:51 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

snip


Yeah, I've heard that... lol. Well, look at what I do. There aren't
many of us who work in building departments!

People are petty. I try to avoid them if I run across them. It's just
not worth it.


I agree! There are very few people around who are worth bothering with. Many
totally lack morals and ethics. Many are totally dishonest and manipulative
and rude and self-centered and . . . Don't get me started. LOL!

snippage

Could it be that commercial people are more concerned with lawsuits if
they
do something wrong and their insurance rates could go way up if they have
a
lawsuit or two against them for negligence or malfeasance? Also, some
commercial contracts withhold the final payment(s) until the final
inspections are completed.


Absolutely true. Also, they've been around and know their stuff. We
hardly ever have a problem with a commercial builder. If we do, it's a
paperwork problem. I don't recall any actual safety issues, at least
not serious ones. There was one where the construction hat had a crack
in it. Apparently, some rebar fell on it and the guy never swapped it
out.


That's relatively minor. I guess those guys generally take a little more
pride in their work because it's their profession while some amatuer builder
has it as a hobby or one-time thing to try to save some money. My training
partner is a builder and he had one subcontractor tell him to not do such a
good job - just do it fast and get it done. He told the contracter that he
was going to do it right or not at all. He doesn't do shoddy work. I like a
perfectionist like that. Slipshod work is sure nothing to be proud of and
there's more to a profession than just making money.



For the residential stuff, it really falls into two areas. The first
is when someone is upgrading or building, has ****ed off a neighbor
and gets reported. I'd say 5% of the time, they have the permits in
place and are doing things right. The other 95% of that group are
doing stuff without permits (so they're red-flagged), and about 1/2 of
the work is actually to code (for me that's the biggest issue, and I
tend to give people a break if they're doing things right or even
trying and are willing to listen to reason -- no you can't install a
50-amp breaker for circuit that has 5 outlets -- no you can't have the
water heater pressure release dump under the house). If they give me
lip, it's really easy to give them the gift of multiple RFs which
means inspectors of varying degrees of patience.

snip

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Besides athletes
need carbs.


Excellent! I'm going to use that.


You never heard that one before? I heard that from my dad half a century
ago. You ARE just a baby. LOL!

snip


I do. It's not a line. When I opened the link Hurley was the first thing I
thought of. Maybe it's the eyes. They have a hint of mischief in them.


Definitely mischief! (and don't give me any bs about __THAT__ not
being a line!)


It is not a line. Just an observation.

Oh.. he was caught with a hooker in Oakland I think? All the while
professing his love to Hurley.


OOPS! What an idiot. Another Tiger Woods! Why can't these morons keep it in
their pants?

snip


You just need to find yourself a drinking partner. ;-)


Yeah, there are many who apply but few who are chosen!


LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard



Jessica B February 2nd 11 01:00 AM

Scenic overload
 
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:48:03 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:08:51 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

snip


Yeah, I've heard that... lol. Well, look at what I do. There aren't
many of us who work in building departments!

People are petty. I try to avoid them if I run across them. It's just
not worth it.


I agree! There are very few people around who are worth bothering with. Many
totally lack morals and ethics. Many are totally dishonest and manipulative
and rude and self-centered and . . . Don't get me started. LOL!


I'm not super religious, but it seems to me that one has to have a
moral compass. People who don't suck the positive energy out of room.
I don't want to be around them!

snippage

Could it be that commercial people are more concerned with lawsuits if
they
do something wrong and their insurance rates could go way up if they have
a
lawsuit or two against them for negligence or malfeasance? Also, some
commercial contracts withhold the final payment(s) until the final
inspections are completed.


Absolutely true. Also, they've been around and know their stuff. We
hardly ever have a problem with a commercial builder. If we do, it's a
paperwork problem. I don't recall any actual safety issues, at least
not serious ones. There was one where the construction hat had a crack
in it. Apparently, some rebar fell on it and the guy never swapped it
out.


That's relatively minor. I guess those guys generally take a little more
pride in their work because it's their profession while some amatuer builder
has it as a hobby or one-time thing to try to save some money. My training
partner is a builder and he had one subcontractor tell him to not do such a
good job - just do it fast and get it done. He told the contracter that he
was going to do it right or not at all. He doesn't do shoddy work. I like a
perfectionist like that. Slipshod work is sure nothing to be proud of and
there's more to a profession than just making money.


Whoa... that's sounds like a recipe for disaster when it comes to
construction. I know times are tough, but if you're working for
someone who deliberately tells you to do substandard work...



For the residential stuff, it really falls into two areas. The first
is when someone is upgrading or building, has ****ed off a neighbor
and gets reported. I'd say 5% of the time, they have the permits in
place and are doing things right. The other 95% of that group are
doing stuff without permits (so they're red-flagged), and about 1/2 of
the work is actually to code (for me that's the biggest issue, and I
tend to give people a break if they're doing things right or even
trying and are willing to listen to reason -- no you can't install a
50-amp breaker for circuit that has 5 outlets -- no you can't have the
water heater pressure release dump under the house). If they give me
lip, it's really easy to give them the gift of multiple RFs which
means inspectors of varying degrees of patience.

snip

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Besides athletes
need carbs.


Excellent! I'm going to use that.


You never heard that one before? I heard that from my dad half a century
ago. You ARE just a baby. LOL!


Heh... I've never heard cinnibons equated with carbs quite that way!
I'm not that young.. really! But, keep saying it!

snip


I do. It's not a line. When I opened the link Hurley was the first thing I
thought of. Maybe it's the eyes. They have a hint of mischief in them.


Definitely mischief! (and don't give me any bs about __THAT__ not
being a line!)


It is not a line. Just an observation.


Well, observe away!!

Oh.. he was caught with a hooker in Oakland I think? All the while
professing his love to Hurley.


OOPS! What an idiot. Another Tiger Woods! Why can't these morons keep it in
their pants?

snip


You just need to find yourself a drinking partner. ;-)


Yeah, there are many who apply but few who are chosen!


LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


Wilbur Hubbard February 4th 11 04:47 PM

Scenic overload
 
"Jessica B" wrote in message
...

I'm not super religious, but it seems to me that one has to have a
moral compass. People who don't suck the positive energy out of room.
I don't want to be around them!


Agreed! You have to have some kind of a firm moral and ethical foundation or
else you're nothing. You can't be trusted, relied upon or understood. . .
You've got to stand for something and be consistent about it. All this
flip-flopping is just less than human, IMO.

snip


Whoa... that's sounds like a recipe for disaster when it comes to
construction. I know times are tough, but if you're working for
someone who deliberately tells you to do substandard work...



Some people worship the almighty dollar to the extent that even pride in
workmanship takes a back seat to the money. . .



snip

Heh... I've never heard cinnibons equated with carbs quite that way!
I'm not that young.. really! But, keep saying it!


Just a babe, just a babe, just a babe, just a babe. LOL!

snip

It is not a line. Just an observation.


Well, observe away!!


Glady, but you need to come a little closer! ;-)


Wilbur Hubbard




Jessica B February 5th 11 12:22 AM

Scenic overload
 
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:47:51 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .

I'm not super religious, but it seems to me that one has to have a
moral compass. People who don't suck the positive energy out of room.
I don't want to be around them!


Agreed! You have to have some kind of a firm moral and ethical foundation or
else you're nothing. You can't be trusted, relied upon or understood. . .
You've got to stand for something and be consistent about it. All this
flip-flopping is just less than human, IMO.


Yeah, like the issue of bribes. I mean I was not really flattered when
that guy tried it. He supposed that I was the type of person who would
do that?

I'm a recovering Catholic, BTW. It was just too strange to be active
in that religion.


Whoa... that's sounds like a recipe for disaster when it comes to
construction. I know times are tough, but if you're working for
someone who deliberately tells you to do substandard work...



Some people worship the almighty dollar to the extent that even pride in
workmanship takes a back seat to the money. . .


That works right up until someone sues you for your entire future
earnings.


Heh... I've never heard cinnibons equated with carbs quite that way!
I'm not that young.. really! But, keep saying it!


Just a babe, just a babe, just a babe, just a babe. LOL!


LOL!!

snip

It is not a line. Just an observation.


Well, observe away!!


Glady, but you need to come a little closer! ;-)


Hmmm.... so, you must like girls in bikinis then? lol

Wilbur Hubbard February 5th 11 10:26 PM

Scenic overload
 
"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:47:51 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
. ..

I'm not super religious, but it seems to me that one has to have a
moral compass. People who don't suck the positive energy out of room.
I don't want to be around them!


Agreed! You have to have some kind of a firm moral and ethical foundation
or
else you're nothing. You can't be trusted, relied upon or understood. . .
You've got to stand for something and be consistent about it. All this
flip-flopping is just less than human, IMO.


Yeah, like the issue of bribes. I mean I was not really flattered when
that guy tried it. He supposed that I was the type of person who would
do that?


That is rather insulting, isn't it.

I'm a recovering Catholic, BTW. It was just too strange to be active
in that religion.


Me too! I sorta lost faith in the Catholic church when all the pedophile
priests came to light. I switched to protestand and when I go to church from
time to time I go to a Baptist church. But, I'm not really active. But, I do
like to live somewhat of a Christian life whenever I can.


snip


It is not a line. Just an observation.

Well, observe away!!


Glady, but you need to come a little closer! ;-)


Hmmm.... so, you must like girls in bikinis then? lol



What (straight) man wouldn't like such an alluring display? I say if you
got it, flaunt it.




Jessica B February 8th 11 01:48 AM

Scenic overload
 
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 17:26:45 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:47:51 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...

I'm not super religious, but it seems to me that one has to have a
moral compass. People who don't suck the positive energy out of room.
I don't want to be around them!

Agreed! You have to have some kind of a firm moral and ethical foundation
or
else you're nothing. You can't be trusted, relied upon or understood. . .
You've got to stand for something and be consistent about it. All this
flip-flopping is just less than human, IMO.


Yeah, like the issue of bribes. I mean I was not really flattered when
that guy tried it. He supposed that I was the type of person who would
do that?


That is rather insulting, isn't it.


Yes, no sh*t.

I'm a recovering Catholic, BTW. It was just too strange to be active
in that religion.


Me too! I sorta lost faith in the Catholic church when all the pedophile
priests came to light. I switched to protestand and when I go to church from
time to time I go to a Baptist church. But, I'm not really active. But, I do
like to live somewhat of a Christian life whenever I can.


I believe in Christian values, but I don't get pumped up about church
or worship. Some of it seems so contrived.

snip


It is not a line. Just an observation.

Well, observe away!!

Glady, but you need to come a little closer! ;-)


Hmmm.... so, you must like girls in bikinis then? lol



What (straight) man wouldn't like such an alluring display? I say if you
got it, flaunt it.



Some of my friends REALLY have it. On some level it's depressing when
we go clubbing... they're hit on A LOT! :-)

Wilbur Hubbard February 9th 11 07:54 PM

Scenic overload
 
"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 17:26:45 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

snip


Yes, no sh*t.

I'm a recovering Catholic, BTW. It was just too strange to be active
in that religion.


Me too! I sorta lost faith in the Catholic church when all the pedophile
priests came to light. I switched to protestand and when I go to church
from
time to time I go to a Baptist church. But, I'm not really active. But, I
do
like to live somewhat of a Christian life whenever I can.


I believe in Christian values, but I don't get pumped up about church
or worship. Some of it seems so contrived.


Agreed! Many of the churches seem to be more about themselves than helping
people to see the benefits of Christianity. Some spend millions on big,
fancy buildings for themselves and a pittance for outreach.

snip


What (straight) man wouldn't like such an alluring display? I say if you
got it, flaunt it.



Some of my friends REALLY have it. On some level it's depressing when
we go clubbing... they're hit on A LOT! :-)



Pssstttt! There are way too many men fixated on large breasts. Most men I
know act like total idiots when they see an attractive woman with large
breasts. It's like all they see is that part of the female anatomy. I think
that's sooooo immature and dumb! Like a baby who has never been weaned. I
just can't see it. To me smaller breasts look way better as the entire body
looks to be more in proportion.


Wilbur Hubbard




Jessica B February 10th 11 12:03 AM

Scenic overload
 
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:54:45 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 17:26:45 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

snip


Yes, no sh*t.

I'm a recovering Catholic, BTW. It was just too strange to be active
in that religion.

Me too! I sorta lost faith in the Catholic church when all the pedophile
priests came to light. I switched to protestand and when I go to church
from
time to time I go to a Baptist church. But, I'm not really active. But, I
do
like to live somewhat of a Christian life whenever I can.


I believe in Christian values, but I don't get pumped up about church
or worship. Some of it seems so contrived.


Agreed! Many of the churches seem to be more about themselves than helping
people to see the benefits of Christianity. Some spend millions on big,
fancy buildings for themselves and a pittance for outreach.

snip


What (straight) man wouldn't like such an alluring display? I say if you
got it, flaunt it.



Some of my friends REALLY have it. On some level it's depressing when
we go clubbing... they're hit on A LOT! :-)



Pssstttt! There are way too many men fixated on large breasts. Most men I
know act like total idiots when they see an attractive woman with large
breasts. It's like all they see is that part of the female anatomy. I think
that's sooooo immature and dumb! Like a baby who has never been weaned. I
just can't see it. To me smaller breasts look way better as the entire body
looks to be more in proportion.


I'm definitely proportional.. horizontally and vertically. :-) Men are
fairly simple to figure out. Like they don't think we notice when
they're talking to our chest??

Wilbur Hubbard February 10th 11 05:50 PM

Scenic overload
 
"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
snip

Pssstttt! There are way too many men fixated on large breasts. Most men I
know act like total idiots when they see an attractive woman with large
breasts. It's like all they see is that part of the female anatomy. I
think
that's sooooo immature and dumb! Like a baby who has never been weaned. I
just can't see it. To me smaller breasts look way better as the entire
body
looks to be more in proportion.


I'm definitely proportional.. horizontally and vertically. :-) Men are
fairly simple to figure out. Like they don't think we notice when
they're talking to our chest??




Women usually look more proportionally fetching when horizontally
positioned. LOL! But, you're right - your proportions appear to be
excellent.

Seriously, though, I'd rather look into a woman's eyes when talking than at
her chest. But, if she has nice pert breasts with erect nipples, then it
becomes almost impossible to not sneak a peek or two. Heck, I figure is she
isn't proud of her 'assets' she wouldn't be showing them off like that. :-)

I remember seeing a movie where the female star had sizable boobs and this
guy she was talking to just kept staring at her cleavage. She didn't seem to
let it bother her but she put her and down by her breasts, wiggled her
fingers and raised her hand to her face while saying, "Yoo-hoo, I'm up
here." It was very funny.



Jessica B February 11th 11 12:23 AM

Scenic overload
 
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:50:51 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
snip

Pssstttt! There are way too many men fixated on large breasts. Most men I
know act like total idiots when they see an attractive woman with large
breasts. It's like all they see is that part of the female anatomy. I
think
that's sooooo immature and dumb! Like a baby who has never been weaned. I
just can't see it. To me smaller breasts look way better as the entire
body
looks to be more in proportion.


I'm definitely proportional.. horizontally and vertically. :-) Men are
fairly simple to figure out. Like they don't think we notice when
they're talking to our chest??




Women usually look more proportionally fetching when horizontally
positioned. LOL! But, you're right - your proportions appear to be
excellent.

Seriously, though, I'd rather look into a woman's eyes when talking than at
her chest. But, if she has nice pert breasts with erect nipples, then it
becomes almost impossible to not sneak a peek or two. Heck, I figure is she
isn't proud of her 'assets' she wouldn't be showing them off like that. :-)


Just keep in mind that it's generally not a good idea to stare. I read
somewhere that men immediately check out the other guy's package when
they see another guy. Don't know if that's true.

I remember seeing a movie where the female star had sizable boobs and this
guy she was talking to just kept staring at her cleavage. She didn't seem to
let it bother her but she put her and down by her breasts, wiggled her
fingers and raised her hand to her face while saying, "Yoo-hoo, I'm up
here." It was very funny.


Gutsy girl!


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