Scenic overload
 

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:13:46 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:14:45 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:54:55 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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I've realized one of my problems with cruising (or any long vacation)
is I reach "scenic overload" where pretty things become mundane, "just
another beautiful vista". My mind can hold only so many of these
before I have to go home and recharge my desire for more. Anybody
else have this issue?



I don't have that problem. The reason being: there are way too many
totally
ugly and ineptly-sailed boats in sight daily that it wants to make be
barf
because they are so cluttered and lubberly maintained. Here is one good
example of which I speak.

http://islandtimepc.com/sitebuilderc...G.w300h410.jpg


But, to be fair, Flying Pig does have one quite comely attribute: She's
on
the right:

http://islandtimepc.com/sitebuilderc...Lydia-Skip.jpg


I just have to wonder what the world's come to when a desirable woman
like
that puts herself in such slovenly circumstances? If she would sail with
me,
I would be happy to teach her what higher standards are all about.


Wilbur Hubbard


That looks like a bigger boat that what you have. Does that make a
difference, as far as comfort goes? I guess it depends on how far you
go. We're finally starting to get some warmer weather out here and
hardly any fog, but it's still pretty cold at night. I have to take
some vacation time in warm weather, including at night!
--

47 is special



Does bigger necessarily mean better? Now, I realize that's a loaded
question
to ask a woman LOL because I know where a woman's mind is much of the
time
(especially prime-of-life, single, adventurous, 47-year-olds) but really!

You're totally right. Bigger isn't better... well... never mind. lol


You are so kool, Jessica. Tell me you aren't just some troll.

I'm way better looking. lol Sorry... no, I'm not a troll. Does someone
here do that?


When I get to the ripe old age of 47, I'm sure I'll know this. Are you
with someone who's 47? That part was a little confusing.


47 is special

I had assumed you were 47 because of your sig. So what is the 47 referring
to?

It's from a proof that all numbers are equal to it. It's a college
thing.





What is with this bigger is better crap when it comes to a sailboat?
Bigger
usually only means a bigger headache, bigger problems, bigger expense,
bigger aggravation, bigger nuisance, smaller cruising opportunities.
People
who own big (over thirty-two feet) sailboats spend the majority of their
time working on them, fixing worn and broken parts and systems, etc. Those
of us who don't have eyes bigger than our stomachs are attracted to the
beauty and functionality of 'the right size'.

Definitely... the right size is important and cozy. I was thinking
that it would really limit where you can go, so I looked up the depths
of the nice places in Florida... they're all really shallow areas.


Indeed! The bigger boats lose out because of their extreme draft.

Most women understand that 'the right size' is better than bigger. And,
the
right size used skillfully will bring more enjoyment than some large,
poorly
maintained and less than skillfully wielded instrument. Now, while a
27-footer is on the small size for a cruising couple, it can be very
suitable for that compatible couple who don't get on each other's nerves.
Smaller spaces are more conducive to enjoying a secure feeling and a safe
environment. Smaller spaces allow one to enjoy the larger spaces outside
by
virtue of reduced maintenance requirements. Shallower draft allows greater
freedom to sail shallow areas where more of that outside space is private.
Who needs the inconsiderate crowds of the 'bigger is better' sycophants?

I have a little apartment. It's maybe 1000 sq. ft. Two bedrooms so I
can have a computer office. It's plenty big. I don't have a lot of
stuff... never saw the need. I mean you just have to keep track of all
the stuff, dust it, clean it. Forget it!


Wonderful attitude. You'd make some sailor an excellent mate.

As long as I don't have to do the heavy lifting, I can do most things
with good instructions. I went sailing on a friend's Catalina 30 last
summer and got to crack up the sail, which was a lot of work, but fun.

You definitely have to get along with the other person. I know some
people and all they do is bicker. What's the point? Why are they even
together? Sometimes silence really IS golden.


Agreed 100%. Oftentimes a bunch of constant jabbering is a sign of
insecurity and weakness. Myself, I am the strong silent type.

Hopefully not totally silent. :)


Me, I'd take a comely, compatible lass (5'4" or so, slim and fit) in a
small
boat over some greedy harridan in a huge luxury yacht any time. A high
maintenance large yacht AND a high maintenance, trophy woman is a recipe
for
a very unfulfilling life.

My minimum requirements for a guy include healthy and fit. I can't
stand those muscle boys either. That's all they do is maintain their
muscles. I do a lot of bicycle riding, but I don't call myself a
cyclists... don't have all the fancy clothing, just some tights and a
helmet (for a crazy drivers).


That's me - healthy and fit. I keep fit racing my time trials bike. My best
10K time is 22m,42sec. Keep riding bicycles as nothing makes a woman's legs
and bottom look better. Definitely smart wearing a helmet as motorists have
no clue. Tights are good especially if they have the pad for the seat sewed
in. A good jersey is important, too. If you fall you need the scrape
protection on your shoulders especially.

I don't time myself... just ride to work out the stress. Definitely
padded! Definitely! I usually don't wear much of jersey, due to the
warm temps in the summer. I've had a few scrapes... all due to the
fricken drivers. They don't even look! When I was little, I broke my
clavicle from a fall. If you've never done that, I don't recommend it.



Just had another cold front blow through last night. Was 50 degrees
outside
this morning. It's warmed up to 67 degrees now with sunny skies. Wind has
come down to 10-15 knots now as opposed to 25-35 knots last night. But,
last
night was a great night to snuggle in the v-berth with that somebody
special
who could cook a good breakfast in the morning.

I like weather 75 to about 90 during the day. Cooling off in the
evening is ok, but I like to take dips in the dark (is that actually
safe down your way?).

Wow, you sound just perfect. Where I am there aren't any sharks except for
a nurse shark or two and they are timid. Unless you happen to step on one
they don't bother you. They are bottom feeders and mostly just lay around on
the bottom.

Definitely not perfect... however, I won't go into that aspect of my
personality. lol I probably should have studied more in college, but I
was on an athletic scholarship.

I'm not terrified of sharks. I just don't want to be stupid about it.

Ok, so a dumb question... if there are two people in a V berth, the
people have their heads on the wide part of the V right? Seems like
that would give you room to move around and also keep the other
person's feet warm if necessary. I can have cold feet and wear socks.
:-)


Most women have cold feet. LOL! The v-berth is great for sleeping but not
so good for sex as there isn't a whole lot of room to spread one's legs.
Thats' why a 5'4" woman is the perfect size for 5'10" man and a 6"4" v-berth
because her feet don't go down far enough to get into the smaller angle at
the point where the man's feet end up.


Well, I'm not going to comment about room for sex.

Like I said, I'm not perfect... at least according to your
requirements. I'm 5'5". BUMMER!


Breakfast... yeah! Does a boat your size have an oven top? I make a
mean omelet. I hope you're not a health nut when it comes to
ingredients. Sometimes sausage is appropriate. (Please no "jokes")

My little galley has a two-burner stove top but no oven. Mean omlettes are
most excellent for breakfast. When it comes to food, I eat just about
anything. Not the least bit particular. Onions, garlic, green peppers,
cheese in omlettes are all very tastey. I love a good cup of espresso in the
morning with creamer and honey.

Stove top... yeah, sorry. Don't know much about boat equipment names.
You can put a frying pan on it right? That'd work. I use minced
garlic.. not the cloves. Makes for a more even taste. Gotta have
coffee. That's a minimum requirement, or you wouldn't want to know me.
I have a Barista I got second hand. Took it apart and cleaned it and
it works fine.


Wilbur Hubbard


Real name? Or are you a character from Beyond the Poseidon Adventure?

Scenic overload
 

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:13:46 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

You are so kool, Jessica. Tell me you aren't just some troll.

I'm way better looking. lol Sorry... no, I'm not a troll. Does someone
here do that?

All the time. I wouldn't put it past one of these dweebs to sock up as a
woman just to try to get my goat.

I had assumed you were 47 because of your sig. So what is the 47 referring
to?

It's from a proof that all numbers are equal to it. It's a college
thing.

You ARE young. Just a baby. LOL!

Wonderful attitude. You'd make some sailor an excellent mate.

As long as I don't have to do the heavy lifting, I can do most things
with good instructions. I went sailing on a friend's Catalina 30 last
summer and got to crack up the sail, which was a lot of work, but fun.

Catalina 30 is a nice boat. It shouldn't be hard to raise the mainsail if
the captain has the good sense to have the boat pointing into the wind. If
not it can be a strain.

Agreed 100%. Oftentimes a bunch of constant jabbering is a sign of
insecurity and weakness. Myself, I am the strong silent type.

Hopefully not totally silent. :)

Hardly. Can't you tell from how I go on and on when posting? ;-)



I don't time myself... just ride to work out the stress. Definitely
padded! Definitely! I usually don't wear much of jersey, due to the
warm temps in the summer. I've had a few scrapes... all due to the
fricken drivers. They don't even look! When I was little, I broke my
clavicle from a fall. If you've never done that, I don't recommend it.

I've been down on the pavement more than once but have been lucky enough not
to break anything. Just bruises and road rash which is bad enough. There are
many inattentive drivers these days and getting to be more and more what
with the morons texting, etc. Here in Florida they run people over, cause
big multi-car wrecks and then they flee the scene. When the police catch up
with them they end up being illegal aliens, fugitives from justice,
suspended licenses for DUI's etc. They'll kill somebody and not even feel
remorse about it. I had some road-raging fool, after I flipped him off for
almost hitting me, stop up ahead of me (right in front of the Sheriff's
substation), jump out of his car and take a swing at me (I ducked). The cops
saw it all so they ran out, grabbed him, slammed him up against the trunk of
a squad car and cuffed him and stuffed him for assault. The moron had to
plead guilty and he paid a hefty fine and had to take anger management
classes. Sometimes there IS justice.

Definitely not perfect... however, I won't go into that aspect of my
personality. lol I probably should have studied more in college, but I
was on an athletic scholarship.

What sport? Female athletes are hot!

I'm not terrified of sharks. I just don't want to be stupid about it.

Smart to never underestimate a shark. They can and do kill people.

Most women have cold feet. LOL! The v-berth is great for sleeping but not
so good for sex as there isn't a whole lot of room to spread one's legs.
Thats' why a 5'4" woman is the perfect size for 5'10" man and a 6"4"
v-berth
because her feet don't go down far enough to get into the smaller angle at
the point where the man's feet end up.


Well, I'm not going to comment about room for sex.

:-(

Like I said, I'm not perfect... at least according to your
requirements. I'm 5'5". BUMMER!

I won't quibble about an inch or so if you don't either? LOL!


Stove top... yeah, sorry. Don't know much about boat equipment names.
You can put a frying pan on it right? That'd work. I use minced
garlic.. not the cloves. Makes for a more even taste. Gotta have
coffee. That's a minimum requirement, or you wouldn't want to know me.
I have a Barista I got second hand. Took it apart and cleaned it and
it works fine.

A nice stainless steel frying pan is my main cooking pan. I even cook
spaghetti in it. The frying pan definitely fits on the stove.

Don't know what a Barista is other than some d00d behind the counter in a
Starbucks. I use one of these things - the Venus model.

http://www.bialettishop.com/Espresso...nlessSteel.htm

Only makes one mug at a time but it's delicious.


Real name? Or are you a character from Beyond the Poseidon Adventure?


It's a nom de plume.


Wilbur Hubbard

Scenic overload
 

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:25:09 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:13:46 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

You are so kool, Jessica. Tell me you aren't just some troll.

I'm way better looking. lol Sorry... no, I'm not a troll. Does someone
here do that?

All the time. I wouldn't put it past one of these dweebs to sock up as a
woman just to try to get my goat.

I had assumed you were 47 because of your sig. So what is the 47 referring
to?

It's from a proof that all numbers are equal to it. It's a college
thing.

You ARE young. Just a baby. LOL!

Hey, watch it! :)

Wonderful attitude. You'd make some sailor an excellent mate.

As long as I don't have to do the heavy lifting, I can do most things
with good instructions. I went sailing on a friend's Catalina 30 last
summer and got to crack up the sail, which was a lot of work, but fun.

Catalina 30 is a nice boat. It shouldn't be hard to raise the mainsail if
the captain has the good sense to have the boat pointing into the wind. If
not it can be a strain.

I think it was in the wind, but it was definitely hard to do. Those
little plastic cards that attach the main to the mast kept sticking.
It wasn't slapping around that much, so I don't know what to think. It
was a workout and finally someone had to finish the last few inches.

Agreed 100%. Oftentimes a bunch of constant jabbering is a sign of
insecurity and weakness. Myself, I am the strong silent type.

Hopefully not totally silent. :)

Hardly. Can't you tell from how I go on and on when posting? ;-)

Nooooo.... well, I think you're just trying to make your point.


I don't time myself... just ride to work out the stress. Definitely
padded! Definitely! I usually don't wear much of jersey, due to the
warm temps in the summer. I've had a few scrapes... all due to the
fricken drivers. They don't even look! When I was little, I broke my
clavicle from a fall. If you've never done that, I don't recommend it.

I've been down on the pavement more than once but have been lucky enough not
to break anything. Just bruises and road rash which is bad enough. There are
many inattentive drivers these days and getting to be more and more what
with the morons texting, etc. Here in Florida they run people over, cause
big multi-car wrecks and then they flee the scene. When the police catch up
with them they end up being illegal aliens, fugitives from justice,
suspended licenses for DUI's etc. They'll kill somebody and not even feel
remorse about it. I had some road-raging fool, after I flipped him off for
almost hitting me, stop up ahead of me (right in front of the Sheriff's
substation), jump out of his car and take a swing at me (I ducked). The cops
saw it all so they ran out, grabbed him, slammed him up against the trunk of
a squad car and cuffed him and stuffed him for assault. The moron had to
plead guilty and he paid a hefty fine and had to take anger management
classes. Sometimes there IS justice.

I think they should shove those phones up people's rear ends.

Definitely not perfect... however, I won't go into that aspect of my
personality. lol I probably should have studied more in college, but I
was on an athletic scholarship.

What sport? Female athletes are hot!

I ran track. Mostly sprints and relay.

I'm not terrified of sharks. I just don't want to be stupid about it.

Smart to never underestimate a shark. They can and do kill people.

Especially the two-legged kind.

Most women have cold feet. LOL! The v-berth is great for sleeping but not
so good for sex as there isn't a whole lot of room to spread one's legs.
Thats' why a 5'4" woman is the perfect size for 5'10" man and a 6"4"
v-berth
because her feet don't go down far enough to get into the smaller angle at
the point where the man's feet end up.


Well, I'm not going to comment about room for sex.

:-(

Like I said, I'm not perfect... at least according to your
requirements. I'm 5'5". BUMMER!

I won't quibble about an inch or so if you don't either? LOL!

Ok... also, I don't have particularly short hair... shoulder length.
lol


Stove top... yeah, sorry. Don't know much about boat equipment names.
You can put a frying pan on it right? That'd work. I use minced
garlic.. not the cloves. Makes for a more even taste. Gotta have
coffee. That's a minimum requirement, or you wouldn't want to know me.
I have a Barista I got second hand. Took it apart and cleaned it and
it works fine.

A nice stainless steel frying pan is my main cooking pan. I even cook
spaghetti in it. The frying pan definitely fits on the stove.

It's not the Teflon crap I hope. I think those are not worth it. Just
clean the fricken pan.

Don't know what a Barista is other than some d00d behind the counter in a
Starbucks. I use one of these things - the Venus model.

http://www.bialettishop.com/Espresso...nlessSteel.htm

Only makes one mug at a time but it's delicious.

This is what I have only mine is green. I had to take it apart and fix
the pump. It was clogged and wouldn't really do much.

http://coffeegeek.com/reviews/consum...rbucks_barista


Real name? Or are you a character from Beyond the Poseidon Adventure?


It's a nom de plume.

Ahh... ok.

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In article , Gordon wrote:

Like I said, "Interesting". Saw his ad on Craigslist where he's
asking 22K for the boat as soon as he gets back from the Galapagos Is.!
Being unable to stop reminds me of Bernard Moitessier.

Yup, I see the resemblance. Not sure it's a good thing though, at some
point you surely have to get back into some kind of shore life, don't
you? I suppose heart attack on the boat could be a good way to go,
tiller pilot steering you away over the sea. But getting old and infirm
yet unwilling to stop has got to be really hard work and just too much.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

Scenic overload
 

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:25:09 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

You ARE young. Just a baby. LOL!

Hey, watch it! :)


Love to! ;-)


snip

Catalina 30 is a nice boat. It shouldn't be hard to raise the mainsail if
the captain has the good sense to have the boat pointing into the wind. If
not it can be a strain.

I think it was in the wind, but it was definitely hard to do. Those
little plastic cards that attach the main to the mast kept sticking.
It wasn't slapping around that much, so I don't know what to think. It
was a workout and finally someone had to finish the last few inches.

It should go up easier than that. Probably needed the track on or in the
mast lubed with silicon. When into the wind the sail should slide up easily
and fall under it's own weight onto the boom if the slides are lubricated
well. I think you were the victim of a less than well-maintained system.

snip


Hardly. Can't you tell from how I go on and on when posting? ;-)

Nooooo.... well, I think you're just trying to make your point.


True, and if I have to heavily describe something from time to time it's
mostly because of the many pretend sailors around here who can't understand
what I'm talking about if I don't embellish somewhat. . .

snip


I think they should shove those phones up people's rear ends.

There in California most of them would probably enjoy it, especially if the
ringtone was on vibrate. LOL!

What sport? Female athletes are hot!

I ran track. Mostly sprints and relay.


Impressive! Female track athletes are hot. I love the body type so much.
Nothing's more sexy and functional. You should try some competitive cycling.
I bet you'd do very well after a year or so training.

snip


Ok... also, I don't have particularly short hair... shoulder length.
lol

That can be cured with scissors. Something like this is very sexy and
functional for sailing. Uses less fresh water to keep it clean and doesn't
get snagged in the equipment.

http://www.girlznight.co.uk/magazine...-1-192x290.jpg


snip


A nice stainless steel frying pan is my main cooking pan. I even cook
spaghetti in it. The frying pan definitely fits on the stove.

It's not the Teflon crap I hope. I think those are not worth it. Just
clean the fricken pan.

Heck no! Teflon always scrapes or flakes off. Bare polished stainless steel
is the only way to go on a boat. A little butter and salt to season it and
things don't stick at all. Mine would work great for omlettes as the bottom
is quite thick so hotspots don't develop.


Don't know what a Barista is other than some d00d behind the counter in a
Starbucks. I use one of these things - the Venus model.

http://www.bialettishop.com/Espresso...nlessSteel.htm

Only makes one mug at a time but it's delicious.

This is what I have only mine is green. I had to take it apart and fix
the pump. It was clogged and wouldn't really do much.

http://coffeegeek.com/reviews/consum...rbucks_barista


A mechanic, too! I think I'm in love. LOL! That's a professional unit, looks
like to me. Must have the capacity to make lots of espresso.


Wilbur Hubbard

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:24:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:25:09 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

You ARE young. Just a baby. LOL!

Hey, watch it! :)


Love to! ;-)

Funny guy....


snip

Catalina 30 is a nice boat. It shouldn't be hard to raise the mainsail if
the captain has the good sense to have the boat pointing into the wind. If
not it can be a strain.

I think it was in the wind, but it was definitely hard to do. Those
little plastic cards that attach the main to the mast kept sticking.
It wasn't slapping around that much, so I don't know what to think. It
was a workout and finally someone had to finish the last few inches.

It should go up easier than that. Probably needed the track on or in the
mast lubed with silicon. When into the wind the sail should slide up easily
and fall under it's own weight onto the boom if the slides are lubricated
well. I think you were the victim of a less than well-maintained system.

It definitely wasn't easy. I'm a total wimp and it was a workout. I
actually had breakfast (no, not like that) with him today, and asked
him why it was so hard (oh jeez... no, not like that either), and he
said he couldn't really remember, but probably he wasn't pointed right
(cripes... it never ends with the puns does it)? Never really got a
good explanation of that.

snip


Hardly. Can't you tell from how I go on and on when posting? ;-)

Nooooo.... well, I think you're just trying to make your point.


True, and if I have to heavily describe something from time to time it's
mostly because of the many pretend sailors around here who can't understand
what I'm talking about if I don't embellish somewhat. . .

I don't know... your comments seemed to make sense to me. Of course, I
don't know diddly about sailing.

snip


I think they should shove those phones up people's rear ends.

There in California most of them would probably enjoy it, especially if the
ringtone was on vibrate. LOL!

Maybe they could shove their screaming kids up there with the phones.
They're either yakking on the phone or trying to control some
screaming child. I know my parents wouldn't put up with that for very
long.

What sport? Female athletes are hot!

I ran track. Mostly sprints and relay.


Impressive! Female track athletes are hot. I love the body type so much.
Nothing's more sexy and functional. You should try some competitive cycling.
I bet you'd do very well after a year or so training.

I think I'm in decent shape.... still. Again.. definitely not perfect
and the cinnabons beckon mercilessly. :) I need to keep up on the
sit-ups.

snip


Ok... also, I don't have particularly short hair... shoulder length.
lol

That can be cured with scissors. Something like this is very sexy and
functional for sailing. Uses less fresh water to keep it clean and doesn't
get snagged in the equipment.

http://www.girlznight.co.uk/magazine...-1-192x290.jpg

That's a very cute cut. I had something sort of similar to that about
five years ago.

Here's one from Christmas 2009... yes, it was posed, some make up, and
taken by a photographer.

http://stashbox.org/1060139/jb1.jpg


snip


A nice stainless steel frying pan is my main cooking pan. I even cook
spaghetti in it. The frying pan definitely fits on the stove.

It's not the Teflon crap I hope. I think those are not worth it. Just
clean the fricken pan.

Heck no! Teflon always scrapes or flakes off. Bare polished stainless steel
is the only way to go on a boat. A little butter and salt to season it and
things don't stick at all. Mine would work great for omlettes as the bottom
is quite thick so hotspots don't develop.

One kind I really like to use is cast iron. You don't have to clean it
much (never soap!). You get really nice flavor. It's also good with
hot spots if you have uneven heat. An ex of mine turned me on to that.
He used to lug a small one backpacking even.


Don't know what a Barista is other than some d00d behind the counter in a
Starbucks. I use one of these things - the Venus model.

http://www.bialettishop.com/Espresso...nlessSteel.htm

Only makes one mug at a time but it's delicious.

This is what I have only mine is green. I had to take it apart and fix
the pump. It was clogged and wouldn't really do much.

http://coffeegeek.com/reviews/consum...rbucks_barista


A mechanic, too! I think I'm in love. LOL! That's a professional unit, looks
like to me. Must have the capacity to make lots of espresso.

Not really... the new ones are wildly expensive, but I got mine for
$25 at a garage sale. He said for parts, but let me plug it in to see
what would happen and it ran. I think he never cleaned it out. Well,
not a mechanic... it was just seemed obvious that it was something
simple. (Confession: I had to borrow a neighbor's tool kit with the
promise of replacing anything I broke. I don't really own any tools.)

It makes two cups at a time as far as coffee capacity, but there's
enough water for about six cups. It only takes a minute to put in more
coffee.

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"Jessica B" wrote in message
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snip


It definitely wasn't easy. I'm a total wimp and it was a workout. I
actually had breakfast (no, not like that) with him today, and asked
him why it was so hard (oh jeez... no, not like that either), and he
said he couldn't really remember, but probably he wasn't pointed right
(cripes... it never ends with the puns does it)? Never really got a
good explanation of that.


LOL! Now, it's my turn to say, "funny girl". Sometimes I think you are a guy
pretending to be a girl because you generally think so much more clearly
than a lot of girls but that "wasn't pointed right" pun is something no guy
would think of. Only a girl (on the receiving end) would be likely to have
heard that. ROFLOL!


snip


I don't know... your comments seemed to make sense to me. Of course, I
don't know diddly about sailing.

You might not have the experience but you sure have the insight and common
sense. You seem to know more about sailing than Bruce, stuck at the Bangkok
dock, does already. I guess, being an inspector, you are really aware of how
systems work and how they can malfunction if not properly built. That type
of spatial and physical relationship understanding is quite rare in a woman.

snip


I think I'm in decent shape.... still. Again.. definitely not perfect
and the cinnabons beckon mercilessly. :) I need to keep up on the
sit-ups.

Sticky buns and coffee - heaven on Earth.

snip

That's a very cute cut. I had something sort of similar to that about
five years ago.

Here's one from Christmas 2009... yes, it was posed, some make up, and
taken by a photographer.

http://stashbox.org/1060139/jb1.jpg


An Elizabeth Hurley look-alike. Zoweeee! I'm in love . . .


One kind I really like to use is cast iron. You don't have to clean it
much (never soap!). You get really nice flavor. It's also good with
hot spots if you have uneven heat. An ex of mine turned me on to that.
He used to lug a small one backpacking even.


Cast iron is probably the best choice ashore but it tends to rust in the
salty air environment of a boat. I used to have a cast iron skillet but the
rust was just too much so I changed to stainless steel which doesn't rust at
all. I did get one with a nice thick bottom so hotspots are minimized.

snip


Not really... the new ones are wildly expensive, but I got mine for
$25 at a garage sale. He said for parts, but let me plug it in to see
what would happen and it ran. I think he never cleaned it out. Well,
not a mechanic... it was just seemed obvious that it was something
simple. (Confession: I had to borrow a neighbor's tool kit with the
promise of replacing anything I broke. I don't really own any tools.)

It makes two cups at a time as far as coffee capacity, but there's
enough water for about six cups. It only takes a minute to put in more
coffee.



Does it use the very fine ground coffee beans? Do you grind your own beans?
I guess it makes all that froth, too??



Wilbur Hubbard

Scenic overload
 

On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:52:12 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
snip


It definitely wasn't easy. I'm a total wimp and it was a workout. I
actually had breakfast (no, not like that) with him today, and asked
him why it was so hard (oh jeez... no, not like that either), and he
said he couldn't really remember, but probably he wasn't pointed right
(cripes... it never ends with the puns does it)? Never really got a
good explanation of that.


LOL! Now, it's my turn to say, "funny girl". Sometimes I think you are a guy
pretending to be a girl because you generally think so much more clearly
than a lot of girls but that "wasn't pointed right" pun is something no guy
would think of. Only a girl (on the receiving end) would be likely to have
heard that. ROFLOL!

Well, if someone wants to believe I'm a guy, I guess they can if they
want. I do have two older brothers, so I had to measure up all the
time growing up. (Not again... another pun... yikes!)


snip


I don't know... your comments seemed to make sense to me. Of course, I
don't know diddly about sailing.

You might not have the experience but you sure have the insight and common
sense. You seem to know more about sailing than Bruce, stuck at the Bangkok
dock, does already. I guess, being an inspector, you are really aware of how
systems work and how they can malfunction if not properly built. That type
of spatial and physical relationship understanding is quite rare in a woman.

I think the thing that I'm always reviewing on the job is the
relationship between building codes... like electrical and plumbing.
We don't see a lot of problems with the commercial people on that
level, because they've been in the business a while and know the
issues. There are all kinds of levels of inspection for commercial
real estate.

For the residential stuff, it really falls into two areas. The first
is when someone is upgrading or building, has ****ed off a neighbor
and gets reported. I'd say 5% of the time, they have the permits in
place and are doing things right. The other 95% of that group are
doing stuff without permits (so they're red-flagged), and about 1/2 of
the work is actually to code (for me that's the biggest issue, and I
tend to give people a break if they're doing things right or even
trying and are willing to listen to reason -- no you can't install a
50-amp breaker for circuit that has 5 outlets -- no you can't have the
water heater pressure release dump under the house). If they give me
lip, it's really easy to give them the gift of multiple RFs which
means inspectors of varying degrees of patience.

snip


I think I'm in decent shape.... still. Again.. definitely not perfect
and the cinnabons beckon mercilessly. :) I need to keep up on the
sit-ups.

Sticky buns and coffee - heaven on Earth.

Yeah!! I thought you were going to berate me over the cinnabon thing.
lol
snip

That's a very cute cut. I had something sort of similar to that about
five years ago.

Here's one from Christmas 2009... yes, it was posed, some make up, and
taken by a photographer.

http://stashbox.org/1060139/jb1.jpg


An Elizabeth Hurley look-alike. Zoweeee! I'm in love . . .

God No! You really think I look like her?? I've never heard that line
before. lol

(I wouldn't have put up with Grant's philandering for 2 seconds, and I
certainly wouldn't still be his friend!)


One kind I really like to use is cast iron. You don't have to clean it
much (never soap!). You get really nice flavor. It's also good with
hot spots if you have uneven heat. An ex of mine turned me on to that.
He used to lug a small one backpacking even.


Cast iron is probably the best choice ashore but it tends to rust in the
salty air environment of a boat. I used to have a cast iron skillet but the
rust was just too much so I changed to stainless steel which doesn't rust at
all. I did get one with a nice thick bottom so hotspots are minimized.

Ahhh... ok. duhhh... You don't want to be continually scraping.

snip


Not really... the new ones are wildly expensive, but I got mine for
$25 at a garage sale. He said for parts, but let me plug it in to see
what would happen and it ran. I think he never cleaned it out. Well,
not a mechanic... it was just seemed obvious that it was something
simple. (Confession: I had to borrow a neighbor's tool kit with the
promise of replacing anything I broke. I don't really own any tools.)

It makes two cups at a time as far as coffee capacity, but there's
enough water for about six cups. It only takes a minute to put in more
coffee.



Does it use the very fine ground coffee beans? Do you grind your own beans?
I guess it makes all that froth, too??

You can use ground beans from a bag or grind them yourself. I prefer
to do my own, but then I have to deal with the grinder... not a huge
hassle, but I end up grinding up a bunch of beans, then they sit for a
week, so I kinda gave up and just buy the bags of ground.

It definitely does the froth. Just depends on how deep the steam tube
sits in the milk. I'm pretty precise about the temp. They claim you
can go up to 180, but I think it tastes scorchy. I usually pour the
milk then use a spoon to grab the froth.

Scenic overload
 

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:52:12 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

LOL! Now, it's my turn to say, "funny girl". Sometimes I think you are a
guy
pretending to be a girl because you generally think so much more clearly
than a lot of girls but that "wasn't pointed right" pun is something no
guy
would think of. Only a girl (on the receiving end) would be likely to have
heard that. ROFLOL!

Well, if someone wants to believe I'm a guy, I guess they can if they
want. I do have two older brothers, so I had to measure up all the
time growing up. (Not again... another pun... yikes!)


Probably you have some Tomboy in you. But, the thing is there are people who
like to pretend to be girls when they post so they can get a guy on the
Usenet interested in them then they reveal they really are a guy and then
accuse anybody who was interested a faggot. This is the type of thing people
I beat handily via logical argument and facts as well as years of sailing
experience might indulge in to attempt revenge.



You might not have the experience but you sure have the insight and common
sense. You seem to know more about sailing than Bruce, stuck at the
Bangkok
dock, does already. I guess, being an inspector, you are really aware of
how
systems work and how they can malfunction if not properly built. That type
of spatial and physical relationship understanding is quite rare in a
woman.

I think the thing that I'm always reviewing on the job is the
relationship between building codes... like electrical and plumbing.
We don't see a lot of problems with the commercial people on that
level, because they've been in the business a while and know the
issues. There are all kinds of levels of inspection for commercial
real estate.

Could it be that commercial people are more concerned with lawsuits if they
do something wrong and their insurance rates could go way up if they have a
lawsuit or two against them for negligence or malfeasance? Also, some
commercial contracts withhold the final payment(s) until the final
inspections are completed.


For the residential stuff, it really falls into two areas. The first
is when someone is upgrading or building, has ****ed off a neighbor
and gets reported. I'd say 5% of the time, they have the permits in
place and are doing things right. The other 95% of that group are
doing stuff without permits (so they're red-flagged), and about 1/2 of
the work is actually to code (for me that's the biggest issue, and I
tend to give people a break if they're doing things right or even
trying and are willing to listen to reason -- no you can't install a
50-amp breaker for circuit that has 5 outlets -- no you can't have the
water heater pressure release dump under the house). If they give me
lip, it's really easy to give them the gift of multiple RFs which
means inspectors of varying degrees of patience.

My friend with whom I do cycling training had an empty lot next door. The
contractor submitted plans which were approved by the code dept. But, when
they built the house (concrete block and poured concrete) they ignored the
setbacks and built a couple of wide balconies on the second story. The
balconies extended out to within a couple of feet of the property line which
is way past the setback requirement. They got red flagged. So what did they
do? The redrew the plans to include the wide balconies and submitted them
saying they were approved by the code dept. I guess they thought codes
didn't keep a copy of the originals on file. LOL! It looks like they are
going to have to tear down the balconies which is going to be a major
undertaking. Serves them right.


Sticky buns and coffee - heaven on Earth.

Yeah!! I thought you were going to berate me over the cinnabon thing.
lol

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Besides athletes
need carbs.


snip

That's a very cute cut. I had something sort of similar to that about
five years ago.

Here's one from Christmas 2009... yes, it was posed, some make up, and
taken by a photographer.

http://stashbox.org/1060139/jb1.jpg


An Elizabeth Hurley look-alike. Zoweeee! I'm in love . . .

God No! You really think I look like her?? I've never heard that line
before. lol

I do. It's not a line. When I opened the link Hurley was the first thing I
thought of. Maybe it's the eyes. They have a hint of mischief in them.

(I wouldn't have put up with Grant's philandering for 2 seconds, and I
certainly wouldn't still be his friend!)

I don't know who Grant is but perhaps he's her hubby or ex? I don't keep up
with celebrity gossip at all.


snip

You can use ground beans from a bag or grind them yourself. I prefer
to do my own, but then I have to deal with the grinder... not a huge
hassle, but I end up grinding up a bunch of beans, then they sit for a
week, so I kinda gave up and just buy the bags of ground.

You just need to find yourself a drinking partner. ;-)

It definitely does the froth. Just depends on how deep the steam tube
sits in the milk. I'm pretty precise about the temp. They claim you
can go up to 180, but I think it tastes scorchy. I usually pour the
milk then use a spoon to grab the froth.

The Cubans around here are into cafe con leché which is that same kind of
thing with the froth and really really strong on the caffeine and sugar. One
tiny cup = a mug of regular strength coffee.


Wilbur Hubbard

Scenic overload
 

On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:08:51 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:52:12 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

LOL! Now, it's my turn to say, "funny girl". Sometimes I think you are a
guy
pretending to be a girl because you generally think so much more clearly
than a lot of girls but that "wasn't pointed right" pun is something no
guy
would think of. Only a girl (on the receiving end) would be likely to have
heard that. ROFLOL!

Well, if someone wants to believe I'm a guy, I guess they can if they
want. I do have two older brothers, so I had to measure up all the
time growing up. (Not again... another pun... yikes!)


Probably you have some Tomboy in you. But, the thing is there are people who
like to pretend to be girls when they post so they can get a guy on the
Usenet interested in them then they reveal they really are a guy and then
accuse anybody who was interested a faggot. This is the type of thing people
I beat handily via logical argument and facts as well as years of sailing
experience might indulge in to attempt revenge.

Yeah, I've heard that... lol. Well, look at what I do. There aren't
many of us who work in building departments!

People are petty. I try to avoid them if I run across them. It's just
not worth it.


You might not have the experience but you sure have the insight and common
sense. You seem to know more about sailing than Bruce, stuck at the
Bangkok
dock, does already. I guess, being an inspector, you are really aware of
how
systems work and how they can malfunction if not properly built. That type
of spatial and physical relationship understanding is quite rare in a
woman.

I think the thing that I'm always reviewing on the job is the
relationship between building codes... like electrical and plumbing.
We don't see a lot of problems with the commercial people on that
level, because they've been in the business a while and know the
issues. There are all kinds of levels of inspection for commercial
real estate.

Could it be that commercial people are more concerned with lawsuits if they
do something wrong and their insurance rates could go way up if they have a
lawsuit or two against them for negligence or malfeasance? Also, some
commercial contracts withhold the final payment(s) until the final
inspections are completed.

Absolutely true. Also, they've been around and know their stuff. We
hardly ever have a problem with a commercial builder. If we do, it's a
paperwork problem. I don't recall any actual safety issues, at least
not serious ones. There was one where the construction hat had a crack
in it. Apparently, some rebar fell on it and the guy never swapped it
out.

For the residential stuff, it really falls into two areas. The first
is when someone is upgrading or building, has ****ed off a neighbor
and gets reported. I'd say 5% of the time, they have the permits in
place and are doing things right. The other 95% of that group are
doing stuff without permits (so they're red-flagged), and about 1/2 of
the work is actually to code (for me that's the biggest issue, and I
tend to give people a break if they're doing things right or even
trying and are willing to listen to reason -- no you can't install a
50-amp breaker for circuit that has 5 outlets -- no you can't have the
water heater pressure release dump under the house). If they give me
lip, it's really easy to give them the gift of multiple RFs which
means inspectors of varying degrees of patience.

My friend with whom I do cycling training had an empty lot next door. The
contractor submitted plans which were approved by the code dept. But, when
they built the house (concrete block and poured concrete) they ignored the
setbacks and built a couple of wide balconies on the second story. The
balconies extended out to within a couple of feet of the property line which
is way past the setback requirement. They got red flagged. So what did they
do? The redrew the plans to include the wide balconies and submitted them
saying they were approved by the code dept. I guess they thought codes
didn't keep a copy of the originals on file. LOL! It looks like they are
going to have to tear down the balconies which is going to be a major
undertaking. Serves them right.

Ouch... bummer for them. But it sounds like they got what they paid
for.


Sticky buns and coffee - heaven on Earth.

Yeah!! I thought you were going to berate me over the cinnabon thing.
lol

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Besides athletes
need carbs.

Excellent! I'm going to use that.

snip

That's a very cute cut. I had something sort of similar to that about
five years ago.

Here's one from Christmas 2009... yes, it was posed, some make up, and
taken by a photographer.

http://stashbox.org/1060139/jb1.jpg


An Elizabeth Hurley look-alike. Zoweeee! I'm in love . . .

God No! You really think I look like her?? I've never heard that line
before. lol

I do. It's not a line. When I opened the link Hurley was the first thing I
thought of. Maybe it's the eyes. They have a hint of mischief in them.

Definitely mischief! (and don't give me any bs about __THAT__ not
being a line!)

(I wouldn't have put up with Grant's philandering for 2 seconds, and I
certainly wouldn't still be his friend!)

I don't know who Grant is but perhaps he's her hubby or ex? I don't keep up
with celebrity gossip at all.

Oh.. he was caught with a hooker in Oakland I think? All the while
professing his love to Hurley.


snip

You can use ground beans from a bag or grind them yourself. I prefer
to do my own, but then I have to deal with the grinder... not a huge
hassle, but I end up grinding up a bunch of beans, then they sit for a
week, so I kinda gave up and just buy the bags of ground.

You just need to find yourself a drinking partner. ;-)

Yeah, there are many who apply but few who are chosen!

It definitely does the froth. Just depends on how deep the steam tube
sits in the milk. I'm pretty precise about the temp. They claim you
can go up to 180, but I think it tastes scorchy. I usually pour the
milk then use a spoon to grab the froth.

The Cubans around here are into cafe con leché which is that same kind of
thing with the froth and really really strong on the caffeine and sugar. One
tiny cup = a mug of regular strength coffee.


Wilbur Hubbard