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Cut the Mustard is going sailing Monday with a brand new bottom paint job. Bayside, Key Largo area. Buttonwood Bay and thereabouts. Challenge me at your own risk. I will, no doubt, leave floundering in my wake any sailboat up to and including 32-footers. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On 1/2/2011 3:26 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
Cut the Mustard is going sailing Monday with a brand new bottom paint job. Bayside, Key Largo area. Buttonwood Bay and thereabouts. Challenge me at your own risk. I will, no doubt, leave floundering in my wake any sailboat up to and including 32-footers. The term is 'foundering' unless you are a fish. |
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Ah, Wilbur...
Too bad we're in the Bahamas (where we have similar conditions forecast other than the 75ish water). However, if we get to the states early enough, we'll have to dawdle our way north, and we'll be sure to make KL one of our stops... L8R Skip and Lydia, doing boat chores as usual before going off to volleyball for my exercise -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "Believe me, my young friend, there is *nothing*-absolutely nothing-half so much worth doing as simply messing, messing-about-in-boats; messing about in boats-or *with* boats. In or out of 'em, it doesn't matter. Nothing seems really to matter, that's the charm of it. Whether you get away, or whether you don't; whether you arrive at your destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never get anywhere at all, you're always busy, and you never do anything in particular; and when you've done it there's always something else to do, and you can do it if you like, but you'd much better not." |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com... Cut the Mustard is going sailing Monday with a brand new bottom paint job. Bayside, Key Largo area. Buttonwood Bay and thereabouts. Challenge me at your own risk. I will, no doubt, leave floundering in my wake any sailboat up to and including 32-footers. The weatherman becomes more and more inept. NOAA marine forecasts used to be able to predict the winds pretty accurately, but not any more. The last couple of years they really SUCK at it. Tow days ago they predicted winds out of the NE at 7-14 knots, one day ago they predicted the same for toady and all day there has been light and variable conditions. Too frustrating to even try sailing in light and variable crap so, after waiting all morning for the winds to fill in and they never did, I gave up on sailing for today. I guess I'll just laze around the cockpit and drink a six-pack of cold Yuengling Traditional Lager. Good stuff. heavy sighs of relief from all the J-Boats who were shaking in their Docksiders Wilbur Hubbard |
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"slide" wrote in message
... On 1/2/2011 3:26 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote: Cut the Mustard is going sailing Monday with a brand new bottom paint job. Bayside, Key Largo area. Buttonwood Bay and thereabouts. Challenge me at your own risk. I will, no doubt, leave floundering in my wake any sailboat up to and including 32-footers. The term is 'foundering' unless you are a fish. Negative. It's easy to tell you are no sailor. In the above context, floundering means struggling while foundering means sinking. While my blue water Coronado 27 is, indeed, blindingly fast there is no way her wake is large enough to sink even your typical, flimsy, oil-canning Macgregor 26. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 13:57:47 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message tanews.com... Cut the Mustard is going sailing Monday with a brand new bottom paint job. Bayside, Key Largo area. Buttonwood Bay and thereabouts. Challenge me at your own risk. I will, no doubt, leave floundering in my wake any sailboat up to and including 32-footers. The weatherman becomes more and more inept. NOAA marine forecasts used to be able to predict the winds pretty accurately, but not any more. The last couple of years they really SUCK at it. Tow days ago they predicted winds out of the NE at 7-14 knots, one day ago they predicted the same for toady and all day there has been light and variable conditions. Too frustrating to even try sailing in light and variable crap so, after waiting all morning for the winds to fill in and they never did, I gave up on sailing for today. I guess I'll just laze around the cockpit and drink a six-pack of cold Yuengling Traditional Lager. Good stuff. heavy sighs of relief from all the J-Boats who were shaking in their Docksiders Wilbur Hubbard I've never had the traditional lager, but I had the Black/Tan last year in New York. It must be warm in S. Florida! ... it's only supposed to get to the mid-60s out here.. brrrr.... |
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The weatherman becomes more and more inept. NOAA marine forecasts used to be able to predict the winds pretty accurately, but not any more. The last couple of years they really SUCK at it. Tow days ago they predicted winds out of the NE at 7-14 knots, one day ago they predicted the same for toady and all day there has been light and variable conditions. Too frustrating to even try sailing in light and variable crap so, after waiting all morning for the winds to fill in and they never did, I gave up on sailing for today. http://www.theweatherprediction.com/ Become your own weatherman using NOAA base figures. Gordon |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 13:57:47 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message ctanews.com... Cut the Mustard is going sailing Monday with a brand new bottom paint job. Bayside, Key Largo area. Buttonwood Bay and thereabouts. Challenge me at your own risk. I will, no doubt, leave floundering in my wake any sailboat up to and including 32-footers. The weatherman becomes more and more inept. NOAA marine forecasts used to be able to predict the winds pretty accurately, but not any more. The last couple of years they really SUCK at it. Tow days ago they predicted winds out of the NE at 7-14 knots, one day ago they predicted the same for toady and all day there has been light and variable conditions. Too frustrating to even try sailing in light and variable crap so, after waiting all morning for the winds to fill in and they never did, I gave up on sailing for today. I guess I'll just laze around the cockpit and drink a six-pack of cold Yuengling Traditional Lager. Good stuff. heavy sighs of relief from all the J-Boats who were shaking in their Docksiders Wilbur Hubbard I've never had the traditional lager, but I had the Black/Tan last year in New York. It must be warm in S. Florida! ... it's only supposed to get to the mid-60s out here.. brrrr.... I was impressed at how tasty the Traditional Lager is. Price is reasonable, too. It was on sale for ten bucks a 12-pack of bottles or cans. The bottles drink better. My outside temperature reads 78.8 and the inside temperature reads 78.4 at 15:56 EST. Water temp is about 65 degrees because of the cold snap a week or so ago. Next cold frontal passage is supposed to be this week-end. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:23:30 -0800, Gordon wrote:
The weatherman becomes more and more inept. NOAA marine forecasts used to be able to predict the winds pretty accurately, but not any more. The last couple of years they really SUCK at it. Tow days ago they predicted winds out of the NE at 7-14 knots, one day ago they predicted the same for toady and all day there has been light and variable conditions. Too frustrating to even try sailing in light and variable crap so, after waiting all morning for the winds to fill in and they never did, I gave up on sailing for today. http://www.theweatherprediction.com/ Become your own weatherman using NOAA base figures. Gordon Nice link... thanks! |
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:18:30 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 13:57:47 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message . octanews.com... Cut the Mustard is going sailing Monday with a brand new bottom paint job. Bayside, Key Largo area. Buttonwood Bay and thereabouts. Challenge me at your own risk. I will, no doubt, leave floundering in my wake any sailboat up to and including 32-footers. The weatherman becomes more and more inept. NOAA marine forecasts used to be able to predict the winds pretty accurately, but not any more. The last couple of years they really SUCK at it. Tow days ago they predicted winds out of the NE at 7-14 knots, one day ago they predicted the same for toady and all day there has been light and variable conditions. Too frustrating to even try sailing in light and variable crap so, after waiting all morning for the winds to fill in and they never did, I gave up on sailing for today. I guess I'll just laze around the cockpit and drink a six-pack of cold Yuengling Traditional Lager. Good stuff. heavy sighs of relief from all the J-Boats who were shaking in their Docksiders Wilbur Hubbard I've never had the traditional lager, but I had the Black/Tan last year in New York. It must be warm in S. Florida! ... it's only supposed to get to the mid-60s out here.. brrrr.... I was impressed at how tasty the Traditional Lager is. Price is reasonable, too. It was on sale for ten bucks a 12-pack of bottles or cans. The bottles drink better. My outside temperature reads 78.8 and the inside temperature reads 78.4 at 15:56 EST. Water temp is about 65 degrees because of the cold snap a week or so ago. Next cold frontal passage is supposed to be this week-end. Wilbur Hubbard I don't think Yuengling is available out here. Whenever I go to a party, it's always wine, wine, wine. Never a beer or a decent one anyway. 80... sigh.. I hate cold weather! I think I need a warm vacation, but work is work. Do you think you'll get wind for sailing when the cold front arrives or will it be too much? Not really familiar with the weather down there.. all we have here is fog... endlessly I think. -- 47 is special |
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 14:12:57 -0800, Jessica B
wrote: Do you think you'll get wind for sailing when the cold front arrives or will it be too much? Not really familiar with the weather down there. It's really too cold unless you dress up like a northerner. Your blood thins out after a few years in south Florida. I'm really surprised they don't find liveaboards frozen stiff on their boats after a bad cold front. |
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 07:36:44 -0700, slide
wrote: On 1/2/2011 3:26 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote: Cut the Mustard is going sailing Monday with a brand new bottom paint job. Bayside, Key Largo area. Buttonwood Bay and thereabouts. Challenge me at your own risk. I will, no doubt, leave floundering in my wake any sailboat up to and including 32-footers. The term is 'foundering' unless you are a fish. I really hate to testify on behalf of Willieboy but: flounder ~ verb 1. walk with great difficulty He floundered along in the heavy snow 2. behave awkwardly; have difficulties She is floundering in college Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 13:57:47 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message tanews.com... Cut the Mustard is going sailing Monday with a brand new bottom paint job. Bayside, Key Largo area. Buttonwood Bay and thereabouts. Challenge me at your own risk. I will, no doubt, leave floundering in my wake any sailboat up to and including 32-footers. The weatherman becomes more and more inept. NOAA marine forecasts used to be able to predict the winds pretty accurately, but not any more. The last couple of years they really SUCK at it. Tow days ago they predicted winds out of the NE at 7-14 knots, one day ago they predicted the same for toady and all day there has been light and variable conditions. Too frustrating to even try sailing in light and variable crap so, after waiting all morning for the winds to fill in and they never did, I gave up on sailing for today. I guess I'll just laze around the cockpit and drink a six-pack of cold Yuengling Traditional Lager. Good stuff. heavy sighs of relief from all the J-Boats who were shaking in their Docksiders Wilbur Hubbard Ah well, a REAL Sailorman would simply download the weather charts and make his own prediction. Even in this ignorant and impoverished country weather charts can be downloaded at hourly interval and "Notices to mariners are available, up dated hourly. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 17:58:10 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 14:12:57 -0800, Jessica B wrote: Do you think you'll get wind for sailing when the cold front arrives or will it be too much? Not really familiar with the weather down there. It's really too cold unless you dress up like a northerner. Your blood thins out after a few years in south Florida. I'm really surprised they don't find liveaboards frozen stiff on their boats after a bad cold front. I can just see that on the weather channel... freeze warning for tomorrow... 72 deg with a wind chill of 68... be sure to bring all liveaboard inside... emergency shelters are open... |
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 06:33:23 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote: On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 07:36:44 -0700, slide wrote: On 1/2/2011 3:26 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote: Cut the Mustard is going sailing Monday with a brand new bottom paint job. Bayside, Key Largo area. Buttonwood Bay and thereabouts. Challenge me at your own risk. I will, no doubt, leave floundering in my wake any sailboat up to and including 32-footers. The term is 'foundering' unless you are a fish. I really hate to testify on behalf of Willieboy but: flounder ~ verb 1. walk with great difficulty He floundered along in the heavy snow 2. behave awkwardly; have difficulties She is floundering in college Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) You're right... foundering is sinking. Of course, there are flounders also. |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... snip I don't think Yuengling is available out here. Whenever I go to a party, it's always wine, wine, wine. Never a beer or a decent one anyway. Sounds like pretentious, Yuppieville, California. LOL! I never even heard of Yuengling before last month. The supermarkets just started stocking it. I've noticed the local supermarkets now have a large stand-up cooler aisle for all sorts of micro-brewery beers. There is a great variety to try. Samuel Adams has many a good custom brew, too. But, there's just something about Yuengling Standard Lager that suits my taste in beer. It even puts Kalick to shame. 80... sigh.. I hate cold weather! I think I need a warm vacation, but work is work. To heck with the work! I retired when I was fifty-five and have never regretted it. People shouldn't work the best years of their life away and retire only after their bodies are slap worn out so they have trouble enjoying life and/or getting around. Few things are more pitiful than a half-blind and crippled sailor. Do you think you'll get wind for sailing when the cold front arrives or will it be too much? Not really familiar with the weather down there.. all we have here is fog... endlessly I think. San Francisco? Anyway, when cold fronts pass the wind is usually quite brisk gusting up to about 40 knots so it's best to wait until the front passes and the winds veer from the NW and N to the NE. Once the wind is from the NE it steadies out to around 20 knots and the sailing is fine. Also, NE winds herald a warming trend as they roll across the warmer Gulf Stream and carry warmer air across the Keys. Take vitamin D tablets to combat foggy days. Up to 2,000 IU's a day will keep you from getting bummed out from lack of sunshine. Most people in northern and cloud climes suffer from a chronic lack of vitamin D. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com... To heck with the work! I retired when I was fifty-five and have never regretted it. People shouldn't work the best years of their life away and retire only after their bodies are slap worn out so they have trouble enjoying life and/or getting around. Few things are more pitiful than a half-blind and crippled sailor. As evidenced by Bruce in Bangkok. ROFLMAO! Gregory Hall |
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:37:59 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . snip I don't think Yuengling is available out here. Whenever I go to a party, it's always wine, wine, wine. Never a beer or a decent one anyway. Sounds like pretentious, Yuppieville, California. LOL! You're damn right! I hate it here... a bunch of preppy little boyz and girlz. I live in the pretentious capital of the Cal... the People's Republic of Santa Monica. The only two things that are any good are the beach and the cheap rent. I never even heard of Yuengling before last month. The supermarkets just started stocking it. I've noticed the local supermarkets now have a large stand-up cooler aisle for all sorts of micro-brewery beers. There is a great variety to try. Samuel Adams has many a good custom brew, too. But, there's just something about Yuengling Standard Lager that suits my taste in beer. It even puts Kalick to shame. 80... sigh.. I hate cold weather! I think I need a warm vacation, but work is work. To heck with the work! I retired when I was fifty-five and have never regretted it. People shouldn't work the best years of their life away and retire only after their bodies are slap worn out so they have trouble enjoying life and/or getting around. Few things are more pitiful than a half-blind and crippled sailor. I work to live not live to work... a nice, easy job.. no stress and I get out of the office regularly. Do you think you'll get wind for sailing when the cold front arrives or will it be too much? Not really familiar with the weather down there.. all we have here is fog... endlessly I think. San Francisco? Anyway, when cold fronts pass the wind is usually quite brisk gusting up to about 40 knots so it's best to wait until the front passes and the winds veer from the NW and N to the NE. Once the wind is from the NE it steadies out to around 20 knots and the sailing is fine. Also, NE winds herald a warming trend as they roll across the warmer Gulf Stream and carry warmer air across the Keys. God no! I couldn't live in that f*cked up place. Besides, that's really cold. What size is your sailboat? Take vitamin D tablets to combat foggy days. Up to 2,000 IU's a day will keep you from getting bummed out from lack of sunshine. Most people in northern and cloud climes suffer from a chronic lack of vitamin D. Heh... yeah, it can get gloomy. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:37:59 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message . .. snip I don't think Yuengling is available out here. Whenever I go to a party, it's always wine, wine, wine. Never a beer or a decent one anyway. Sounds like pretentious, Yuppieville, California. LOL! You're damn right! I hate it here... a bunch of preppy little boyz and girlz. I live in the pretentious capital of the Cal... the People's Republic of Santa Monica. The only two things that are any good are the beach and the cheap rent. I never even heard of Yuengling before last month. The supermarkets just started stocking it. I've noticed the local supermarkets now have a large stand-up cooler aisle for all sorts of micro-brewery beers. There is a great variety to try. Samuel Adams has many a good custom brew, too. But, there's just something about Yuengling Standard Lager that suits my taste in beer. It even puts Kalick to shame. 80... sigh.. I hate cold weather! I think I need a warm vacation, but work is work. To heck with the work! I retired when I was fifty-five and have never regretted it. People shouldn't work the best years of their life away and retire only after their bodies are slap worn out so they have trouble enjoying life and/or getting around. Few things are more pitiful than a half-blind and crippled sailor. I work to live not live to work... a nice, easy job.. no stress and I get out of the office regularly. Do you think you'll get wind for sailing when the cold front arrives or will it be too much? Not really familiar with the weather down there.. all we have here is fog... endlessly I think. San Francisco? Anyway, when cold fronts pass the wind is usually quite brisk gusting up to about 40 knots so it's best to wait until the front passes and the winds veer from the NW and N to the NE. Once the wind is from the NE it steadies out to around 20 knots and the sailing is fine. Also, NE winds herald a warming trend as they roll across the warmer Gulf Stream and carry warmer air across the Keys. God no! I couldn't live in that f*cked up place. Besides, that's really cold. What size is your sailboat? 27-foot Coronado. Here is a photo I took when I had her hauled and painted the bottom last month. http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469?size=original A lot of people here are jealous of my fine little yacht. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 15:36:57 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:37:59 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message ... snip I don't think Yuengling is available out here. Whenever I go to a party, it's always wine, wine, wine. Never a beer or a decent one anyway. Sounds like pretentious, Yuppieville, California. LOL! You're damn right! I hate it here... a bunch of preppy little boyz and girlz. I live in the pretentious capital of the Cal... the People's Republic of Santa Monica. The only two things that are any good are the beach and the cheap rent. I never even heard of Yuengling before last month. The supermarkets just started stocking it. I've noticed the local supermarkets now have a large stand-up cooler aisle for all sorts of micro-brewery beers. There is a great variety to try. Samuel Adams has many a good custom brew, too. But, there's just something about Yuengling Standard Lager that suits my taste in beer. It even puts Kalick to shame. 80... sigh.. I hate cold weather! I think I need a warm vacation, but work is work. To heck with the work! I retired when I was fifty-five and have never regretted it. People shouldn't work the best years of their life away and retire only after their bodies are slap worn out so they have trouble enjoying life and/or getting around. Few things are more pitiful than a half-blind and crippled sailor. I work to live not live to work... a nice, easy job.. no stress and I get out of the office regularly. Do you think you'll get wind for sailing when the cold front arrives or will it be too much? Not really familiar with the weather down there.. all we have here is fog... endlessly I think. San Francisco? Anyway, when cold fronts pass the wind is usually quite brisk gusting up to about 40 knots so it's best to wait until the front passes and the winds veer from the NW and N to the NE. Once the wind is from the NE it steadies out to around 20 knots and the sailing is fine. Also, NE winds herald a warming trend as they roll across the warmer Gulf Stream and carry warmer air across the Keys. God no! I couldn't live in that f*cked up place. Besides, that's really cold. What size is your sailboat? 27-foot Coronado. Here is a photo I took when I had her hauled and painted the bottom last month. http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469?size=original A lot of people here are jealous of my fine little yacht. Wilbur Hubbard Sharp! It looks like it's brand new. You must be meticulous in your care. I confess that I don't know much about sailboats, but I do know about neat and tidy (and warm weather!). |
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"Flying Pig" wrote in message
... Ah, Wilbur... Too bad we're in the Bahamas (where we have similar conditions forecast other than the 75ish water). However, if we get to the states early enough, we'll have to dawdle our way north, and we'll be sure to make KL one of our stops... L8R Skip and Lydia, doing boat chores as usual before going off to volleyball for my exercise Exercise my arse. You just want to oggle the bikini babes. (Sure hope Skippy hasn't come to grief. Haven't seen a post from him for several weeks.) Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 15:36:57 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:37:59 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message m... snip I don't think Yuengling is available out here. Whenever I go to a party, it's always wine, wine, wine. Never a beer or a decent one anyway. Sounds like pretentious, Yuppieville, California. LOL! You're damn right! I hate it here... a bunch of preppy little boyz and girlz. I live in the pretentious capital of the Cal... the People's Republic of Santa Monica. The only two things that are any good are the beach and the cheap rent. I never even heard of Yuengling before last month. The supermarkets just started stocking it. I've noticed the local supermarkets now have a large stand-up cooler aisle for all sorts of micro-brewery beers. There is a great variety to try. Samuel Adams has many a good custom brew, too. But, there's just something about Yuengling Standard Lager that suits my taste in beer. It even puts Kalick to shame. 80... sigh.. I hate cold weather! I think I need a warm vacation, but work is work. To heck with the work! I retired when I was fifty-five and have never regretted it. People shouldn't work the best years of their life away and retire only after their bodies are slap worn out so they have trouble enjoying life and/or getting around. Few things are more pitiful than a half-blind and crippled sailor. I work to live not live to work... a nice, easy job.. no stress and I get out of the office regularly. Do you think you'll get wind for sailing when the cold front arrives or will it be too much? Not really familiar with the weather down there.. all we have here is fog... endlessly I think. San Francisco? Anyway, when cold fronts pass the wind is usually quite brisk gusting up to about 40 knots so it's best to wait until the front passes and the winds veer from the NW and N to the NE. Once the wind is from the NE it steadies out to around 20 knots and the sailing is fine. Also, NE winds herald a warming trend as they roll across the warmer Gulf Stream and carry warmer air across the Keys. God no! I couldn't live in that f*cked up place. Besides, that's really cold. What size is your sailboat? 27-foot Coronado. Here is a photo I took when I had her hauled and painted the bottom last month. http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469?size=original A lot of people here are jealous of my fine little yacht. Wilbur Hubbard Sharp! It looks like it's brand new. You must be meticulous in your care. I confess that I don't know much about sailboats, but I do know about neat and tidy (and warm weather!). I must have missed this post in the shuffle. Thanks for the good words, Jessica. It's refreshing after the constant jealousy-related put downs some of the pretend sailors in the group seem overly fond of dishing out. Neat and tidy is important in a sailboat as cluttered and untidy results in accidents and equipment failures. What many people seem to forget is that "first she's a sailboat." In other words, first things first and don't install or change anything that reduces the efficiency of the sailing machine. And, spend the majority of time on the boat as a sailing system than anything else. This is the problem I have with people like Joe. He was constantly modifying his erstwhile motorsailer, "Red Cloud." He had her looking "real purty" from a cosmetic standpoint, at least but, unfortunately, he spent the majority of his time trying to make RC into a floating apartment with all the shoreside amenities so he could satisfy his wife's domestic urges. In doing so, he ignored the important things like making sure his rudder was up to the task on an ocean voyage. Because of his poorly engineered rudder and his not paying attention to it and not modifying it to cope with normal ocean voyage conditions, it failed catastrophically and punched a hole or holes in his transom. Now, wouldn't his time have been better spent not worrying about the shower, mirrors, vanity and hair drier, etc. for his wife and taking care of important ships systems? No man compromises the integrity of the ship in order to appeal to the distaff side. The bottom line is a sailing yacht will always be a compromise but one should always compromise greatly on the "all the comforts of home" than on the ship's systems side. The functionality and safety of the ship always takes precedence over crew comfort. This is what wannabes like Joe, Bruce and Skippy can't seem to get through their highly-domesticated skulls. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:29:41 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: snipped a bunch Sharp! It looks like it's brand new. You must be meticulous in your care. I confess that I don't know much about sailboats, but I do know about neat and tidy (and warm weather!). I must have missed this post in the shuffle. Thanks for the good words, Jessica. It's refreshing after the constant jealousy-related put downs some of the pretend sailors in the group seem overly fond of dishing out. Neat and tidy is important in a sailboat as cluttered and untidy results in accidents and equipment failures. What many people seem to forget is that "first she's a sailboat." In other words, first things first and don't install or change anything that reduces the efficiency of the sailing machine. And, spend the majority of time on the boat as a sailing system than anything else. Yes this is certainly true. One thing we're constantly reminded about is to be aware of the general condition of a job site. It's a clue about what you'll find when you start really looking. Our first priority as inspectors is for personal safety. I have my PPE kit with me at all times. I don't go into areas that look messy, e.g., piping laying around. Again, I don't do much commercial these days, and we tend to give resid. consumers a break, but commercial sites have been cited for stuff strewn about. I keep reminding myself that boats are female! So, we have to be handled surely but gently. We're a bit fickle but if we're treated right, we have great moves! This is the problem I have with people like Joe. He was constantly modifying his erstwhile motorsailer, "Red Cloud." He had her looking "real purty" from a cosmetic standpoint, at least but, unfortunately, he spent the majority of his time trying to make RC into a floating apartment with all the shoreside amenities so he could satisfy his wife's domestic urges. In doing so, he ignored the important things like making sure his rudder was up to the task on an ocean voyage. Because of his poorly engineered rudder and his not paying attention to it and not modifying it to cope with normal ocean voyage conditions, it failed catastrophically and punched a hole or holes in his transom. Now, wouldn't his time have been better spent not worrying about the shower, mirrors, vanity and hair drier, etc. for his wife and taking care of important ships systems? No man compromises the integrity of the ship in order to appeal to the distaff side. The bottom line is a sailing yacht will always be a compromise but one should always compromise greatly on the "all the comforts of home" than on the ship's systems side. The functionality and safety of the ship always takes precedence over crew comfort. This is what wannabes like Joe, Bruce and Skippy can't seem to get through their highly-domesticated skulls. Well, I'm certainly not into the "comforts of home" too much. I'm not spartan, but I don't have an apartment filled with stuffed animals either! |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:11:53 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Flying Pig" wrote in message ... Ah, Wilbur... Too bad we're in the Bahamas (where we have similar conditions forecast other than the 75ish water). However, if we get to the states early enough, we'll have to dawdle our way north, and we'll be sure to make KL one of our stops... L8R Skip and Lydia, doing boat chores as usual before going off to volleyball for my exercise Exercise my arse. You just want to oggle the bikini babes. Hey, don't knock the bikini! :-) Looking is fine, as long as he keeps his hands to himself! Since you mentioned it, I just found this one of me from six? years ago. Nothing like the beach... http://stashbox.org/1061492/jb2.jpg (Sure hope Skippy hasn't come to grief. Haven't seen a post from him for several weeks.) Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:29:41 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: snipped a bunch Sharp! It looks like it's brand new. You must be meticulous in your care. I confess that I don't know much about sailboats, but I do know about neat and tidy (and warm weather!). I must have missed this post in the shuffle. Thanks for the good words, Jessica. It's refreshing after the constant jealousy-related put downs some of the pretend sailors in the group seem overly fond of dishing out. Neat and tidy is important in a sailboat as cluttered and untidy results in accidents and equipment failures. What many people seem to forget is that "first she's a sailboat." In other words, first things first and don't install or change anything that reduces the efficiency of the sailing machine. And, spend the majority of time on the boat as a sailing system than anything else. Yes this is certainly true. One thing we're constantly reminded about is to be aware of the general condition of a job site. It's a clue about what you'll find when you start really looking. Our first priority as inspectors is for personal safety. I have my PPE kit with me at all times. I don't go into areas that look messy, e.g., piping laying around. Again, I don't do much commercial these days, and we tend to give resid. consumers a break, but commercial sites have been cited for stuff strewn about. I keep reminding myself that boats are female! So, we have to be handled surely but gently. Sounds like fun! We're a bit fickle but if we're treated right, we have great moves! And most of you can dance well. That clueless Bruce (stuck at the Bangkock dock) didn't have a clue what I was talking about when I refered to a sailboat as an 'interface dancer.' Duh. Like having the hull in the water and the sails in the air and working the interface between water and air - and dancing the interface if treated right - with great moves. Heck, you haven't had much sailing experience at all and you already know more than Bruce seems to know about it. snippage Well, I'm certainly not into the "comforts of home" too much. I'm not spartan, but I don't have an apartment filled with stuffed animals either! The comforts of home are OK - AT HOME! However, even at home too much clutter is just a big pain in the neck. How much crap does a body need anyway. Pretty soon if you have too many things the things own you and not the other way around like it's supposed to be. But on a sailboat one should expect to rough it a little. The same goes for camping. Some people call driving around in large, comfy RVs camping. What a joke! Camping is supposed to be a little primitive so you can enjoy nature without all the distractions. Same goes for sailing. You can have comforts in a small boat but they should never get in the way of the true function of the machine which is to sail and to survive the elements and keep the occupants safe and relatively comfortable. Those who try to turn their boats into a big floating condo are missing the point. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:11:53 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Flying Pig" wrote in message ... Ah, Wilbur... Too bad we're in the Bahamas (where we have similar conditions forecast other than the 75ish water). However, if we get to the states early enough, we'll have to dawdle our way north, and we'll be sure to make KL one of our stops... L8R Skip and Lydia, doing boat chores as usual before going off to volleyball for my exercise Exercise my arse. You just want to oggle the bikini babes. Hey, don't knock the bikini! :-) Looking is fine, as long as he keeps his hands to himself! Skippy had better NOT stray. Lydia would make his life a living hell. LOL! Since you mentioned it, I just found this one of me from six? years ago. Nothing like the beach... http://stashbox.org/1061492/jb2.jpg Wow! Thanks for that. What a little cutie! A definite TEN. Six years ago, you must have been WHAT? about 19? Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:25:12 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:29:41 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: snipped a bunch Sharp! It looks like it's brand new. You must be meticulous in your care. I confess that I don't know much about sailboats, but I do know about neat and tidy (and warm weather!). I must have missed this post in the shuffle. Thanks for the good words, Jessica. It's refreshing after the constant jealousy-related put downs some of the pretend sailors in the group seem overly fond of dishing out. Neat and tidy is important in a sailboat as cluttered and untidy results in accidents and equipment failures. What many people seem to forget is that "first she's a sailboat." In other words, first things first and don't install or change anything that reduces the efficiency of the sailing machine. And, spend the majority of time on the boat as a sailing system than anything else. Yes this is certainly true. One thing we're constantly reminded about is to be aware of the general condition of a job site. It's a clue about what you'll find when you start really looking. Our first priority as inspectors is for personal safety. I have my PPE kit with me at all times. I don't go into areas that look messy, e.g., piping laying around. Again, I don't do much commercial these days, and we tend to give resid. consumers a break, but commercial sites have been cited for stuff strewn about. I keep reminding myself that boats are female! So, we have to be handled surely but gently. Sounds like fun! We're a bit fickle but if we're treated right, we have great moves! And most of you can dance well. That clueless Bruce (stuck at the Bangkock dock) didn't have a clue what I was talking about when I refered to a sailboat as an 'interface dancer.' Duh. Like having the hull in the water and the sails in the air and working the interface between water and air - and dancing the interface if treated right - with great moves. Heck, you haven't had much sailing experience at all and you already know more than Bruce seems to know about it. Sure... I know how to dance... that's like required or something. Sounds very mystical and zen-like. I'd imagine that there's no distinct boundry between the water and air, especially when the boat is really moving and kicking up some spray. snippage Well, I'm certainly not into the "comforts of home" too much. I'm not spartan, but I don't have an apartment filled with stuffed animals either! The comforts of home are OK - AT HOME! However, even at home too much clutter is just a big pain in the neck. How much crap does a body need anyway. Pretty soon if you have too many things the things own you and not the other way around like it's supposed to be. But on a sailboat one should expect to rough it a little. The same goes for camping. Some people call driving around in large, comfy RVs camping. What a joke! Camping is supposed to be a little primitive so you can enjoy nature without all the distractions. Same goes for sailing. You can have comforts in a small boat but they should never get in the way of the true function of the machine which is to sail and to survive the elements and keep the occupants safe and relatively comfortable. Those who try to turn their boats into a big floating condo are missing the point. There's this place where the family goes sort of near Yosemite, but not in a national park. You drive as far as the dirt road goes, then hike the rest of the way... about 2 miles. You have to carry food and sleeping bags, but some things are just hidden. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:31:38 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:11:53 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Flying Pig" wrote in message ... Ah, Wilbur... Too bad we're in the Bahamas (where we have similar conditions forecast other than the 75ish water). However, if we get to the states early enough, we'll have to dawdle our way north, and we'll be sure to make KL one of our stops... L8R Skip and Lydia, doing boat chores as usual before going off to volleyball for my exercise Exercise my arse. You just want to oggle the bikini babes. Hey, don't knock the bikini! :-) Looking is fine, as long as he keeps his hands to himself! Skippy had better NOT stray. Lydia would make his life a living hell. LOL! Since you mentioned it, I just found this one of me from six? years ago. Nothing like the beach... http://stashbox.org/1061492/jb2.jpg Wow! Thanks for that. What a little cutie! A definite TEN. Six years ago, you must have been WHAT? about 19? Nah.. 9.9, but only on a bad day! That would be in my mid (to late) 20s. \') Ok, give it up... how old are you? Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:31:38 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: snip Wow! Thanks for that. What a little cutie! A definite TEN. Six years ago, you must have been WHAT? about 19? Nah.. 9.9, but only on a bad day! That would be in my mid (to late) 20s. \') Ok, give it up... how old are you? Early sixties. And you seem to be in your early thirties but you look younger than that. Call me 'grandpa'. LOL! Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:10:29 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:31:38 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: snip Wow! Thanks for that. What a little cutie! A definite TEN. Six years ago, you must have been WHAT? about 19? Nah.. 9.9, but only on a bad day! That would be in my mid (to late) 20s. \') Ok, give it up... how old are you? Early sixties. And you seem to be in your early thirties but you look younger than that. Call me 'grandpa'. LOL! Wilbur Hubbard Early to mid-30s. :-} Well, you're not that old... probably a heck of lot more polite and respectful than some of the man/boy drones you find in bars. All they (and the ones lifting weights on the beach - yeah, I like to watch) want to do is get drunk and then try and get laid or they're so into their muscles, they don't have time for anyone or anything else. It's a jungle out there! How about Pops? (kidding) I bet you have a few good years left! (whoa... that sounded harsh I think). Hey, I went out with someone last year who was 51. He's a nice guy... I just don't want kids, so we didn't last. Still friends though. He's marrying someone in her late-30s. I'm fine as long as my brother stops "fixing me up" with one of his friends. It's too weird. I would rather be independent. |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... snip Early to mid-30s. :-} Well, you're not that old... probably a heck of lot more polite and respectful than some of the man/boy drones you find in bars. All they (and the ones lifting weights on the beach - yeah, I like to watch) want to do is get drunk and then try and get laid or they're so into their muscles, they don't have time for anyone or anything else. It's a jungle out there! I can see that it must be for somebody as fit and attractive as you are. How about Pops? (kidding) I bet you have a few good years left! (whoa... that sounded harsh I think). LOL! Better than 'Gramps.' I do hope I have a few good years left. Hey, I went out with someone last year who was 51. He's a nice guy... I just don't want kids, so we didn't last. Still friends though. He's marrying someone in her late-30s. One can be friends with people of all ages. When it comes to being lovers, though, it's better to get closer in age if for no other reason that people tend to look down on a woman with a too old man because they thinks she must be a gold-digger or something. And if an older man is with too young a woman they accuse him of robbing the cradle. Actually, it's none of anybody's business who does what with whom but still the 'attitudes' are there than sometimes make things uncomfortable. I'm fine as long as my brother stops "fixing me up" with one of his friends. It's too weird. I would rather be independent. It's better to seek out one's own friends and then just let things develop as they may. I think the 'fixing up' thing is pretty lame. Sort of smacks of desperation, especially unnecessary when one is as attractive as you are. You probably spend more time fending off advances than seeking them out. Wilbur Hubbard |
Oh well.
"Jessica B" wrote in message
... snip Sure... I know how to dance... that's like required or something. Sounds very mystical and zen-like. I'd imagine that there's no distinct boundry between the water and air, especially when the boat is really moving and kicking up some spray. Right you are. There are degrees. In a storm, especially, the boundary becomes somewhat 'fuzzy.' snip There's this place where the family goes sort of near Yosemite, but not in a national park. You drive as far as the dirt road goes, then hike the rest of the way... about 2 miles. You have to carry food and sleeping bags, but some things are just hidden. Everybody should have a getaway place like that. . . Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:01:28 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . snip Sure... I know how to dance... that's like required or something. Sounds very mystical and zen-like. I'd imagine that there's no distinct boundry between the water and air, especially when the boat is really moving and kicking up some spray. Right you are. There are degrees. In a storm, especially, the boundary becomes somewhat 'fuzzy.' Would that affect how the boat handles? (not the storm part.. obviously that would) For example, when a wave breaks on the beach and you try to swim through the part that's broken up (all foam), it's nearly impossible. You can pull and kick all you want, but nothing much happens until you find solid water. There's this place where the family goes sort of near Yosemite, but not in a national park. You drive as far as the dirt road goes, then hike the rest of the way... about 2 miles. You have to carry food and sleeping bags, but some things are just hidden. Everybody should have a getaway place like that. . . It's nice. I haven't been for a while. The only real bummer are the mosquitoes which can be ferocious in the summer. I hate putting a lot of chemicals on my skin, so I tend to avoid the trail at dusk. |
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:58:14 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . snip Early to mid-30s. :-} Well, you're not that old... probably a heck of lot more polite and respectful than some of the man/boy drones you find in bars. All they (and the ones lifting weights on the beach - yeah, I like to watch) want to do is get drunk and then try and get laid or they're so into their muscles, they don't have time for anyone or anything else. It's a jungle out there! I can see that it must be for somebody as fit and attractive as you are. Thanks! I mean it's not like I'm fighting them off like flies. It just gets old sometimes when you're trying to relax and read or listen to tunes, and some muscle boy is standing there sweating. How about Pops? (kidding) I bet you have a few good years left! (whoa... that sounded harsh I think). LOL! Better than 'Gramps.' I do hope I have a few good years left. Me too!! lol Hey, I went out with someone last year who was 51. He's a nice guy... I just don't want kids, so we didn't last. Still friends though. He's marrying someone in her late-30s. One can be friends with people of all ages. When it comes to being lovers, though, it's better to get closer in age if for no other reason that people tend to look down on a woman with a too old man because they thinks she must be a gold-digger or something. And if an older man is with too young a woman they accuse him of robbing the cradle. Actually, it's none of anybody's business who does what with whom but still the 'attitudes' are there than sometimes make things uncomfortable. That's probably true. I just don't give in to what "people think" at least not when it comes to my social life or personal business. I would never go out with someone just for their money. It wouldn't be real and it would just be a gilded cage. Probably be so jealous that he would croak if I talk to a bartender. I'm fine as long as my brother stops "fixing me up" with one of his friends. It's too weird. I would rather be independent. It's better to seek out one's own friends and then just let things develop as they may. I think the 'fixing up' thing is pretty lame. Sort of smacks of desperation, especially unnecessary when one is as attractive as you are. You probably spend more time fending off advances than seeking them out. You have no idea how many times I've tried to explain this concept. I'm not hard up or desperate, and I can get a date if I want one. The weird part about being hit on is not in a bar or party or whatever... not even on the beach (when ummm more is showing). It's like I'm in my car stopped at a light, and some guy (probably married) is making eyes?? Hello? Like that's going to really attract me. Or if I'm obviously on the phone, and some guy is standing there. I'm not saying this happens a lot... far from it. It just creeps me out when it does. Are they going to try following me home or something? I actually went out and bought a pepper spray, and bring it with me to work for when I have to travel around. |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:58:14 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message . .. snip Early to mid-30s. :-} Well, you're not that old... probably a heck of lot more polite and respectful than some of the man/boy drones you find in bars. All they (and the ones lifting weights on the beach - yeah, I like to watch) want to do is get drunk and then try and get laid or they're so into their muscles, they don't have time for anyone or anything else. It's a jungle out there! I can see that it must be for somebody as fit and attractive as you are. Thanks! I mean it's not like I'm fighting them off like flies. It just gets old sometimes when you're trying to relax and read or listen to tunes, and some muscle boy is standing there sweating. Tell me something, Jessica, if you would. I guess you know that men are more visually oriented than women as a turn-on sort of thing. Even I get turned on by the sight a scantily-clad lovely. With that in mind, what makes a 'muscle boy', as you call them, think that a buff body is the main thing that attracts a woman? Do they really think a woman thinks like a man? I mean, most women I've met seem to have other priorities first - such things like a man who is considerate, intelligent, charming, complimentary, well-to-do, successful in his field, etc. Good looking helps, of course but isn't it more of a neck up good looking that women want? So why do muscle boys think women care most about a pumped up body? And, isn't doing so sort of like the bribe situation - kind of an insult to your priorities? Kind of an underestimating of your mind? snip That's probably true. I just don't give in to what "people think" at least not when it comes to my social life or personal business. I would never go out with someone just for their money. It wouldn't be real and it would just be a gilded cage. Probably be so jealous that he would croak if I talk to a bartender. Good girl. You get more loveable all the time . . . I'm fine as long as my brother stops "fixing me up" with one of his friends. It's too weird. I would rather be independent. It's better to seek out one's own friends and then just let things develop as they may. I think the 'fixing up' thing is pretty lame. Sort of smacks of desperation, especially unnecessary when one is as attractive as you are. You probably spend more time fending off advances than seeking them out. You have no idea how many times I've tried to explain this concept. I'm not hard up or desperate, and I can get a date if I want one. The weird part about being hit on is not in a bar or party or whatever... not even on the beach (when ummm more is showing). It's like I'm in my car stopped at a light, and some guy (probably married) is making eyes?? Hello? Like that's going to really attract me. Or if I'm obviously on the phone, and some guy is standing there. That IS kinda creepy. It's not something any kind of a secure man would do. I think if I were a woman that kind of man would frighten me at least a little. I'm not saying this happens a lot... far from it. It just creeps me out when it does. Are they going to try following me home or something? I actually went out and bought a pepper spray, and bring it with me to work for when I have to travel around. Can't say as I can blame you. There are too many psycho cases on the loose these days. |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:01:28 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message . .. snip Sure... I know how to dance... that's like required or something. Sounds very mystical and zen-like. I'd imagine that there's no distinct boundry between the water and air, especially when the boat is really moving and kicking up some spray. Right you are. There are degrees. In a storm, especially, the boundary becomes somewhat 'fuzzy.' Would that affect how the boat handles? (not the storm part.. obviously that would) For example, when a wave breaks on the beach and you try to swim through the part that's broken up (all foam), it's nearly impossible. You can pull and kick all you want, but nothing much happens until you find solid water. Not really! A ballasted sailboat is quite heavy for its size and it has a keel deep in the water so if there is a lot of froth it will float in the solid water beneath the froth much the same as if there were no froth. You will just get a lot of spray on deck in more extreme conditions. If one is caught in a hurricane, however, all bets are off. Force 10 conditions are nothing you want to be out in a small sailboat. You could probably drown in the froth. Everybody should have a getaway place like that. . . It's nice. I haven't been for a while. The only real bummer are the mosquitoes which can be ferocious in the summer. I hate putting a lot of chemicals on my skin, so I tend to avoid the trail at dusk. Do they have those Lyme disease ticks up there. I'd definitely be avoiding those things. The mosquitoes can be bad at times here during the summer. As long as the wind blows over about ten knots they aren't bad out on the water but if it gets calm out the come and the screens have to be kept in place. We also have something called no-see-ums that are little tiny biting gnats that are so small they can go right through a regular screen and the don't really bite but they put a drop of strong acid down on your skin and when your skin starts to dissolve they lick up the residue. It feels more like a tiny little burn than a mosquito bite but it doesn't itch afterwards, at least. |
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On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 17:45:47 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:01:28 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message ... snip Sure... I know how to dance... that's like required or something. Sounds very mystical and zen-like. I'd imagine that there's no distinct boundry between the water and air, especially when the boat is really moving and kicking up some spray. Right you are. There are degrees. In a storm, especially, the boundary becomes somewhat 'fuzzy.' Would that affect how the boat handles? (not the storm part.. obviously that would) For example, when a wave breaks on the beach and you try to swim through the part that's broken up (all foam), it's nearly impossible. You can pull and kick all you want, but nothing much happens until you find solid water. Not really! A ballasted sailboat is quite heavy for its size and it has a keel deep in the water so if there is a lot of froth it will float in the solid water beneath the froth much the same as if there were no froth. You will just get a lot of spray on deck in more extreme conditions. If one is caught in a hurricane, however, all bets are off. Force 10 conditions are nothing you want to be out in a small sailboat. You could probably drown in the froth. Ah.. ok. I guess you'd just get more froth on the boat... might be kind of cool to experience (without drowning!) Everybody should have a getaway place like that. . . It's nice. I haven't been for a while. The only real bummer are the mosquitoes which can be ferocious in the summer. I hate putting a lot of chemicals on my skin, so I tend to avoid the trail at dusk. Do they have those Lyme disease ticks up there. I'd definitely be avoiding those things. Yep. We do "body" checks all the time. You definitely don't want that disease. The mosquitoes can be bad at times here during the summer. As long as the wind blows over about ten knots they aren't bad out on the water but if it gets calm out the come and the screens have to be kept in place. We also have something called no-see-ums that are little tiny biting gnats that are so small they can go right through a regular screen and the don't really bite but they put a drop of strong acid down on your skin and when your skin starts to dissolve they lick up the residue. It feels more like a tiny little burn than a mosquito bite but it doesn't itch afterwards, at least. Bugs are strange. I tend to use the citronella... non-toxic. |
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On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 17:38:04 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:58:14 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message ... snip Early to mid-30s. :-} Well, you're not that old... probably a heck of lot more polite and respectful than some of the man/boy drones you find in bars. All they (and the ones lifting weights on the beach - yeah, I like to watch) want to do is get drunk and then try and get laid or they're so into their muscles, they don't have time for anyone or anything else. It's a jungle out there! I can see that it must be for somebody as fit and attractive as you are. Thanks! I mean it's not like I'm fighting them off like flies. It just gets old sometimes when you're trying to relax and read or listen to tunes, and some muscle boy is standing there sweating. Tell me something, Jessica, if you would. I guess you know that men are more visually oriented than women as a turn-on sort of thing. Even I get turned on by the sight a scantily-clad lovely. With that in mind, what makes a 'muscle boy', as you call them, think that a buff body is the main thing that attracts a woman? Do they really think a woman thinks like a man? I mean, most women I've met seem to have other priorities first - such things like a man who is considerate, intelligent, charming, complimentary, well-to-do, successful in his field, etc. Good looking helps, of course but isn't it more of a neck up good looking that women want? So why do muscle boys think women care most about a pumped up body? And, isn't doing so sort of like the bribe situation - kind of an insult to your priorities? Kind of an underestimating of your mind? It's certainly a turn on when a guy is in good shape, but it's definitely a big zero if that's all there is to him. I have no problem with boys being boys, but I have a big problem with they think it's going to impress me. If some guy wants to prove his manhood by arm wrestling another guy, I say go for it, but don't expect me to get all limp over it. As for the pumped up nonsense... I can't help thinking they have ultra big muscles but tiny ummm chestnuts? Sort of a turn off. It's almost a homoerotic thing with them I think. Big turn ons for me are intelligence, humor, and at least polite enough to not embarrass me if my father was sitting at the next table. Honestly, intelligence and humor make up for a lot, even if a guy isn't perfect otherwise... maybe a little over-weight... from my perspective women don't get fixated on things like hair or lack of it... all things being equal. Oh, and basic hygiene is a non-negotiable. I'd also suggest that they keep their hands to them self (well for starters) :-) keeping in mind that if my older brother saw them, he might be inclined to disengage their grope rather violently. :-} (He was a bit over-protective in HS, and I doubt much has changed.) snip That's probably true. I just don't give in to what "people think" at least not when it comes to my social life or personal business. I would never go out with someone just for their money. It wouldn't be real and it would just be a gilded cage. Probably be so jealous that he would croak if I talk to a bartender. Good girl. You get more loveable all the time . . . Hey, besides, I make decent money. I'm not rich, but I get by fine. I don't spend like crazy but I save like crazy. I'm fine as long as my brother stops "fixing me up" with one of his friends. It's too weird. I would rather be independent. It's better to seek out one's own friends and then just let things develop as they may. I think the 'fixing up' thing is pretty lame. Sort of smacks of desperation, especially unnecessary when one is as attractive as you are. You probably spend more time fending off advances than seeking them out. You have no idea how many times I've tried to explain this concept. I'm not hard up or desperate, and I can get a date if I want one. The weird part about being hit on is not in a bar or party or whatever... not even on the beach (when ummm more is showing). It's like I'm in my car stopped at a light, and some guy (probably married) is making eyes?? Hello? Like that's going to really attract me. Or if I'm obviously on the phone, and some guy is standing there. That IS kinda creepy. It's not something any kind of a secure man would do. I think if I were a woman that kind of man would frighten me at least a little. Yeah, what does he expect... I'm going to park and jump into his car??? I'm not saying this happens a lot... far from it. It just creeps me out when it does. Are they going to try following me home or something? I actually went out and bought a pepper spray, and bring it with me to work for when I have to travel around. Can't say as I can blame you. There are too many psycho cases on the loose these days. I'm actually not that paranoid especially in the work day. It's other times, like at night or whenever. |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... snip \ Not really! A ballasted sailboat is quite heavy for its size and it has a keel deep in the water so if there is a lot of froth it will float in the solid water beneath the froth much the same as if there were no froth. You will just get a lot of spray on deck in more extreme conditions. If one is caught in a hurricane, however, all bets are off. Force 10 conditions are nothing you want to be out in a small sailboat. You could probably drown in the froth. Ah.. ok. I guess you'd just get more froth on the boat... might be kind of cool to experience (without drowning!) It can be very exhilarating. Everybody should have a getaway place like that. . . It's nice. I haven't been for a while. The only real bummer are the mosquitoes which can be ferocious in the summer. I hate putting a lot of chemicals on my skin, so I tend to avoid the trail at dusk. Do they have those Lyme disease ticks up there. I'd definitely be avoiding those things. Yep. We do "body" checks all the time. You definitely don't want that disease. Can I volunteer as body checker, next time? :-) The mosquitoes can be bad at times here during the summer. As long as the wind blows over about ten knots they aren't bad out on the water but if it gets calm out the come and the screens have to be kept in place. We also have something called no-see-ums that are little tiny biting gnats that are so small they can go right through a regular screen and the don't really bite but they put a drop of strong acid down on your skin and when your skin starts to dissolve they lick up the residue. It feels more like a tiny little burn than a mosquito bite but it doesn't itch afterwards, at least. Bugs are strange. I tend to use the citronella... non-toxic. Sometimes I'm forced to use those mosquito coils that you light and they smoke, but I don't particularly like the way they smell. The only good thing is most of the smoke just blows out of the companionway into the cockpit. As the mosquitoes come upwind following the scent of carbon dioxide that gets most of them. |
Oh well.
On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:40:51 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . snip \ Not really! A ballasted sailboat is quite heavy for its size and it has a keel deep in the water so if there is a lot of froth it will float in the solid water beneath the froth much the same as if there were no froth. You will just get a lot of spray on deck in more extreme conditions. If one is caught in a hurricane, however, all bets are off. Force 10 conditions are nothing you want to be out in a small sailboat. You could probably drown in the froth. Ah.. ok. I guess you'd just get more froth on the boat... might be kind of cool to experience (without drowning!) It can be very exhilarating. Everybody should have a getaway place like that. . . It's nice. I haven't been for a while. The only real bummer are the mosquitoes which can be ferocious in the summer. I hate putting a lot of chemicals on my skin, so I tend to avoid the trail at dusk. Do they have those Lyme disease ticks up there. I'd definitely be avoiding those things. Yep. We do "body" checks all the time. You definitely don't want that disease. Can I volunteer as body checker, next time? :-) LOL ... well, depends on the temperature of your hands. JUST KIDDING!! The mosquitoes can be bad at times here during the summer. As long as the wind blows over about ten knots they aren't bad out on the water but if it gets calm out the come and the screens have to be kept in place. We also have something called no-see-ums that are little tiny biting gnats that are so small they can go right through a regular screen and the don't really bite but they put a drop of strong acid down on your skin and when your skin starts to dissolve they lick up the residue. It feels more like a tiny little burn than a mosquito bite but it doesn't itch afterwards, at least. Bugs are strange. I tend to use the citronella... non-toxic. Sometimes I'm forced to use those mosquito coils that you light and they smoke, but I don't particularly like the way they smell. The only good thing is most of the smoke just blows out of the companionway into the cockpit. As the mosquitoes come upwind following the scent of carbon dioxide that gets most of them. My brother's suggestion while camping is to not breathe! |
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