On Dec 25, 12:50*pm, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:
Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Christ so what's with this
'merry' crap?

The Online dictionary definition:

mer ry
adj. mer ri er, mer ri est
1. Full of high-spirited gaiety; jolly.
2. Marked by or offering fun and gaiety; festive: a merry evening.
3. Archaic Delightful; entertaining.
4. Brisk: a merry pace.

It seems to me this 'merry' Christmas crap is just another way for
non-believers to take over and *marginalize the true meaning of Christmas.
It seems to me Christ's birth should be celebrated with solemn thanks to our
Lord for giving his only begotten son that those who believe in Him may have
everlasting life.

Getting drunk on spirits and getting bloated on too much food is debauchery.
Is it proper to gives thanks to the Lord's ultimate sacrifice by engaging in
sinful behavior? Making Christmas all about human vices seems to me to be
very antithetical, blasphemous and sinful and no way to get to Heaven.

--
Gregory Hall

oh, **** you, Gregory! The expression is old as dirt! In other parts
of the world "merry" is substituted by the word "happy". The meaning
is the same for Christians. why would they *not* be merry or happy
that the savior was born? huh?

as to the rest of your senseless diatribe, go **** yourself. if the
non Christians want to drink and eat themselves to death, let them! In
the mean time the Christians will be "merry" and "happy" in whatever
way they choose. Even most Amish celebrate the season with family and
friends with gatherings, feasts, and gift giving... some even decorate
Christmas trees!

so get a life and loosen up!

JD

"seymore" wrote in message
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oh, **** you, Gregory! The expression is old as dirt! In other parts
of the world "merry" is substituted by the word "happy". The meaning
is the same for Christians. why would they *not* be merry or happy
that the savior was born? huh?



You missed the point. "Merry Christmas" is the preferred, non-believer,
politically correct greeting that marginalizes the true purpose of Christmas
which is celebrating the birth of the Christ. How about 'Joyous Christmas'
or better yet. 'Holy Christmas'.

Do you think the non-believers would ever accept and say those greetings? NO
they wouldn't because that would not further their non-believer agenda which
agenda substitutes gluttony and human-centric activities for a devout
expression of love and appreciation of God's ultimate sacrifice. We
celebrate the birth of the Christ because we know of His true purpose which
was to die on the cross so our sins might be forgiven. The birth of the
Christ is a wondrous thing only in the knowing about the death and
resurrection of the Christ. There is NOTHING merry about the birth, life and
death of the Christ, IMO. Non believers prefer 'merry' because it makes the
Christ out to be some kind of clown.

--
Gregory Hall

On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 15:58:34 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"seymore" wrote in message
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oh, **** you, Gregory! The expression is old as dirt! In other parts of
the world "merry" is substituted by the word "happy". The meaning is
the same for Christians. why would they *not* be merry or happy that
the savior was born? huh?



You missed the point. "Merry Christmas" is the preferred, non-believer,
politically correct greeting that marginalizes the true purpose of
Christmas which is celebrating the birth of the Christ. How about
'Joyous Christmas' or better yet. 'Holy Christmas'.

What business is it of yours what people celebrate? Besides, you *guys*
stole a pagan holiday. Go get one of your own.

Do you think the non-believers would ever accept and say those
greetings? NO they wouldn't because that would not further their
non-believer agenda which agenda substitutes gluttony and human-centric
activities for a devout expression of love and appreciation of God's
ultimate sacrifice. We celebrate the birth of the Christ because we know
of His true purpose which was to die on the cross so our sins might be
forgiven. The birth of the Christ is a wondrous thing only in the
knowing about the death and resurrection of the Christ. There is NOTHING
merry about the birth, life and death of the Christ, IMO. Non believers
prefer 'merry' because it makes the Christ out to be some kind of clown.

On Dec 25, 2:58*pm, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:
"seymore" wrote in message

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oh, **** you, Gregory! The expression is old as dirt! In other parts
of the world "merry" is substituted by the word "happy". The meaning
is the same for Christians. why would they *not* be merry or happy
that the savior was born? huh?

You missed the point. "Merry Christmas" is the preferred, non-believer,
politically correct greeting that marginalizes the true purpose of Christmas
which is celebrating the birth of the Christ. How about 'Joyous Christmas'
or better yet. 'Holy Christmas'.

Do you think the non-believers would ever accept and say those greetings? NO
they wouldn't because that would not further their non-believer agenda which
agenda substitutes gluttony and human-centric activities for a devout
expression of love and appreciation of God's ultimate sacrifice. We
celebrate the birth of the Christ because we know of His true purpose which
was to die on the cross so our sins might be forgiven. The birth of the
Christ is a wondrous thing only in the knowing about the death and
resurrection of the Christ. There is NOTHING merry about the birth, life and
death of the Christ, IMO. Non believers prefer 'merry' because it makes the
Christ out to be some kind of clown.

--
Gregory Hall

Then you'd be speaking of the ****ing HYPOCRITE liberals who "enjoy"
Christmas but never mention Easter. These people are, IN FACT, simply
****ing two faced lip-servers and unworthy of notice save an
occasional admonishment. Your blanket statement that you "HATE" the
expression "Merry Christmas" is just a bit more that two and a half
miles over the top of reason and civility. (which excludes liberals,
of course) I never knew a Christian of any creed that would not
express "Merry Christmas" to me with the deepest and most honest
intent. The same expression from asshole liberals who use the date as
an excuse to party is not the same thing at all... its simply four-
flushing at its most pernicious style and not worthy of complete
hatred for the
expression..

JD

On Dec 25, 4:09*pm, seymore_donkies
wrote:

Then you'd be speaking of the ****ing HYPOCRITE liberals who "enjoy"
Christmas but never mention Easter. These people are, IN FACT, simply
****ing two faced lip-servers and unworthy of notice save an
occasional admonishment. Your blanket statement that you "HATE" the
expression "Merry Christmas" is just a bit more that two and a half
miles over the top of reason and civility. (which excludes liberals,
of course) I never knew a Christian of any creed that would not
express "Merry Christmas" to me with the deepest and most honest
intent. The same expression from asshole liberals who use the date as
an excuse to party is not the same thing at all... its simply four-
flushing at its most pernicious style and not worthy of complete
hatred for the
expression..

JD-

You really don't give it a rest do you? And, your ignorance never
ceases to amaze me. You must be totally unaware that for Christians,
at least for us Roman Catholics, liberal and conservative, Easter is
more important than Christmas as it fulfills the promise God made to
Noah and opened the gates of Heaven for those who die in God's
friendship. Christmas is the second important date in the Church year.
Never mention Easter Indeed!

It must gull you to know that the great liberal who was both man and
God was put to a cruel death on a cross by Conservatives.

I wish you a Merry Christmas anyway and when it comes again, I shall
wish you a Happy Easter too.

No one else will suffer a political post from me today but you do take
the cake Ebanezer

Bob G

On Dec 25, 6:59*pm, "Bob G." wrote:
On Dec 25, 4:09*pm, seymore_donkies
wrote:





Then you'd be speaking of the ****ing HYPOCRITE liberals who "enjoy"
Christmas but never mention Easter. These people are, IN FACT, simply
****ing two faced lip-servers and unworthy of notice save an
occasional admonishment. Your blanket statement that you "HATE" the
expression "Merry Christmas" is just a bit more that two and a half
miles over the top of reason and civility. (which excludes liberals,
of course) I never knew a Christian of any creed that would not
express "Merry Christmas" to me with the deepest and most honest
intent. The same expression from asshole liberals who use the date as
an excuse to party is not the same thing at all... its simply four-
flushing at its most pernicious style and not worthy of complete
hatred for the
expression..

JD-

You really don't give it a rest do you? And, your ignorance never
ceases to amaze me. You must be totally unaware that for Christians,
at least for us Roman Catholics, liberal and conservative, Easter is
more important than Christmas as it fulfills the promise God made to
Noah and opened the gates of Heaven for those who die in God's
friendship. Christmas is the second important date in the Church year.
Never mention Easter Indeed!

It must gull you to know that the great liberal who was both man and
God was put to a cruel death on a cross by Conservatives.

I wish you a Merry Christmas anyway and when it comes again, I shall
wish you a Happy Easter too.

No one else will suffer a political post from me today but you do take
the cake Ebanezer

Bob G

ewe are a complete and total HYPOCRITE... not only that but ewe have
"reading comprehension disorder"... which is common in liberal
****wads.

merry Christmas, HYPOCRITE!

JD

On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 15:58:34 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

"seymore" wrote in message
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oh, **** you, Gregory! The expression is old as dirt! In other parts
of the world "merry" is substituted by the word "happy". The meaning
is the same for Christians. why would they *not* be merry or happy
that the savior was born? huh?



You missed the point. "Merry Christmas" is the preferred, non-believer,
politically correct greeting that marginalizes the true purpose of Christmas
which is celebrating the birth of the Christ. How about 'Joyous Christmas'
or better yet. 'Holy Christmas'.

That sounds like a dine idea and I hope you enjoy your push to put the
christian back into christianity. You plan to lead by example?

Do you think the non-believers would ever accept and say those greetings?

Why are you so interested in controlling what other people are doing
and saying?


NO
they wouldn't because that would not further their non-believer agenda which
agenda substitutes gluttony and human-centric activities for a devout
expression of love and appreciation of God's ultimate sacrifice.

No conservative screed is comlete without a conspiracy claim.

We
celebrate the birth of the Christ because we know of His true purpose which
was to die on the cross so our sins might be forgiven.

Who voted you humanity's spokesperson?

The birth of the
Christ is a wondrous thing only in the knowing about the death and
resurrection of the Christ. There is NOTHING merry about the birth, life and
death of the Christ,

According to your mythology

IMO. Non believers prefer 'merry' because it makes the
Christ out to be some kind of clown.

And the obvious solution is to appoint a control freak such as
yourself as head of the thought police.

I am curious, do you really gather periodically with your fellow
believers and perform ritual cannibalism to reaffirm your faith?
--
Greg sounds like one pathetic *******.

He's kind of like the old, bitter barfly who shouts drunken slurs at
everyone in the place: you feel sort of sorry for the mess he's made of
his life, but at the same time he's so arrogant that he inspires gales
of mocking laughter in nearly everyone who sees him.

"Sherkaner Underhill" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 15:58:34 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

"seymore" wrote in message
...
snip
oh, **** you, Gregory! The expression is old as dirt! In other parts
of the world "merry" is substituted by the word "happy". The meaning
is the same for Christians. why would they *not* be merry or happy
that the savior was born? huh?



You missed the point. "Merry Christmas" is the preferred, non-believer,
politically correct greeting that marginalizes the true purpose of
Christmas
which is celebrating the birth of the Christ. How about 'Joyous Christmas'
or better yet. 'Holy Christmas'.

That sounds like a dine idea and I hope you enjoy your push to put the
christian back into christianity. You plan to lead by example?

I am leading by example.


Do you think the non-believers would ever accept and say those greetings?

Why are you so interested in controlling what other people are doing
and saying?

Negative, I am saying that, as a Christian, I am tasked with not allowing my
religion to be secularized, liberalized and *******ized by accepting the
language the anti-religious or non-religious use to usurp and marginalize my
religion.

--
Gregory Hall

On Dec 26, 10:04*am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

Negative, I am saying that, as a Christian, I am tasked with not allowing my
religion to be secularized, liberalized and *******ized by accepting the
language the anti-religious or non-religious use to usurp and marginalize my
religion.

--
Gregory Hall

Maybe I live in a different culture than you do Greg, but where I live
Christian are fighting to maintain the Merry Christmas greeting. Go
to a grocery or departent store, run by a big chain, and one does not
hear a Merry Christmas greeting from the staff. Even when you give
them a Merry Christmas and they attend the same church as you, they
are reluctant to respond back the same due to pressure from their
bosses to be PC. I have talked to Jews and Muslims on this matter
and they are not offended by the Merry Christmas greeting as in their
opinion it is polite to wish someone of another religion merriment in
their religious celebrations, just as I will wish Happy Hanakah , or
Happy Eid to Jews and Muslims. What is wrong is the exclusion of any
mention of the beliefs of others in secular society. It is only
polite to offer another good wishes on the eve of their religious
occasion. We shouldn't take offence when offered such greeting and we
shouldn't feel uncomfortable in giving the greeting.

The words of the greeting matter not unless the words are an attempt
at nutralizing the religion in the event. Since the word "Christmas"
is in "Merry Christmas" and Holy is in "Happy Holidays", one should
not get all wrapped up in the meaning each individual takes. If you
say Happy Holidays, or Merry Christmas to me I interpret that as a
religious greeting. It matters not that the sender or the greeting
may not, it is how it is interpretted that matters.

What upsets me is when corporations deny their employees the right to
say , "Merry Christmas." One should not take offence to being wished
Merry Christmas any more than if I were mistaken for a Jew and be
wished Happy Hanakah.

"husk" wrote in message
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On Dec 26, 10:04 am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

Negative, I am saying that, as a Christian, I am tasked with not allowing
my
religion to be secularized, liberalized and *******ized by accepting the
language the anti-religious or non-religious use to usurp and marginalize
my
religion.

--
Gregory Hall

Maybe I live in a different culture than you do Greg, but where I live
Christian are fighting to maintain the Merry Christmas greeting. Go
to a grocery or departent store, run by a big chain, and one does not
hear a Merry Christmas greeting from the staff. Even when you give
them a Merry Christmas and they attend the same church as you, they
are reluctant to respond back the same due to pressure from their
bosses to be PC. I have talked to Jews and Muslims on this matter
and they are not offended by the Merry Christmas greeting as in their
opinion it is polite to wish someone of another religion merriment in
their religious celebrations, just as I will wish Happy Hanakah , or
Happy Eid to Jews and Muslims. What is wrong is the exclusion of any
mention of the beliefs of others in secular society. It is only
polite to offer another good wishes on the eve of their religious
occasion. We shouldn't take offence when offered such greeting and we
shouldn't feel uncomfortable in giving the greeting.

The words of the greeting matter not unless the words are an attempt
at nutralizing the religion in the event. Since the word "Christmas"
is in "Merry Christmas" and Holy is in "Happy Holidays", one should
not get all wrapped up in the meaning each individual takes. If you
say Happy Holidays, or Merry Christmas to me I interpret that as a
religious greeting. It matters not that the sender or the greeting
may not, it is how it is interpretted that matters.

What upsets me is when corporations deny their employees the right to
say , "Merry Christmas." One should not take offence to being wished
Merry Christmas any more than if I were mistaken for a Jew and be
wished Happy Hanakah.





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But the word they are trying to suppress is not the word, merry. It is the
word Christmas because Christmas is a religious-based word. I can guarantee
if people went around saying, "Satanic Salutations" these anti-religious
liberals would be ALL FOR that. There would be NO mention of trying to
suppress that expression in public. There would be no mention of separation
of church and state.

See the difference? The agenda is to mock and belittle Christianity. The
word 'merry' accomplishes that purpose in the eyes of the anti-religious.
Therefore, Christians should not fall into their trap which marginalizes
Christianity. As Christians, we should reply to any "merry Christmas
salutation with something like, "Holy Christmas" or "Blessed Christmas."
This would demonstrate that a 'merry Christmas' is a less than satisfactory
expression as to the real meaning of Christmas.

--
Gregory Hall