On Dec 26, 10:04*am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

Negative, I am saying that, as a Christian, I am tasked with not allowing my
religion to be secularized, liberalized and *******ized by accepting the
language the anti-religious or non-religious use to usurp and marginalize my
religion.

--
Gregory Hall

Maybe I live in a different culture than you do Greg, but where I live
Christian are fighting to maintain the Merry Christmas greeting. Go
to a grocery or departent store, run by a big chain, and one does not
hear a Merry Christmas greeting from the staff. Even when you give
them a Merry Christmas and they attend the same church as you, they
are reluctant to respond back the same due to pressure from their
bosses to be PC. I have talked to Jews and Muslims on this matter
and they are not offended by the Merry Christmas greeting as in their
opinion it is polite to wish someone of another religion merriment in
their religious celebrations, just as I will wish Happy Hanakah , or
Happy Eid to Jews and Muslims. What is wrong is the exclusion of any
mention of the beliefs of others in secular society. It is only
polite to offer another good wishes on the eve of their religious
occasion. We shouldn't take offence when offered such greeting and we
shouldn't feel uncomfortable in giving the greeting.

The words of the greeting matter not unless the words are an attempt
at nutralizing the religion in the event. Since the word "Christmas"
is in "Merry Christmas" and Holy is in "Happy Holidays", one should
not get all wrapped up in the meaning each individual takes. If you
say Happy Holidays, or Merry Christmas to me I interpret that as a
religious greeting. It matters not that the sender or the greeting
may not, it is how it is interpretted that matters.

What upsets me is when corporations deny their employees the right to
say , "Merry Christmas." One should not take offence to being wished
Merry Christmas any more than if I were mistaken for a Jew and be
wished Happy Hanakah.

On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 10:04:52 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

"Sherkaner Underhill" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 15:58:34 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

"seymore" wrote in message
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oh, **** you, Gregory! The expression is old as dirt! In other parts
of the world "merry" is substituted by the word "happy". The meaning
is the same for Christians. why would they *not* be merry or happy
that the savior was born? huh?



You missed the point. "Merry Christmas" is the preferred, non-believer,
politically correct greeting that marginalizes the true purpose of
Christmas
which is celebrating the birth of the Christ. How about 'Joyous Christmas'
or better yet. 'Holy Christmas'.

That sounds like a dine idea and I hope you enjoy your push to put the
christian back into christianity. You plan to lead by example?

I am leading by example.

The phrase "lead by example" implies a positive or good example.


Do you think the non-believers would ever accept and say those greetings?

Why are you so interested in controlling what other people are doing
and saying?

Negative, I am saying that, as a Christian, I am tasked with not allowing my
religion to be secularized, liberalized and *******ized by accepting the
language the anti-religious or non-religious use to usurp and marginalize my
religion.

Ah, so your faith is so weak that it's value is based on what others
say & do.

Merry Christmas to you and all your sock puppets.
--
Which proves that someone's very good at baiting the hook, because you
sure fell for it.


My ass! I wasn't even involved in the thread at that time. One of my many
email supporters brought it to my attention.

Gregory Hall

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
"Sherkaner Underhill" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 15:58:34 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

"seymore" wrote in message
...
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oh, **** you, Gregory! The expression is old as dirt! In other parts
of the world "merry" is substituted by the word "happy". The meaning
is the same for Christians. why would they *not* be merry or happy
that the savior was born? huh?


You missed the point. "Merry Christmas" is the preferred, non-believer,
politically correct greeting that marginalizes the true purpose of
Christmas
which is celebrating the birth of the Christ. How about 'Joyous Christmas'
or better yet. 'Holy Christmas'.
That sounds like a dine idea and I hope you enjoy your push to put the
christian back into christianity. You plan to lead by example?

I am leading by example.

Do you think the non-believers would ever accept and say those greetings?
Why are you so interested in controlling what other people are doing
and saying?

Negative, I am saying that, as a Christian, I am tasked with not allowing my
religion to be secularized, liberalized and *******ized by accepting the
language the anti-religious or non-religious use to usurp and marginalize my
religion.

Tasked by whom, Greg?

--

Greg's wrong guesses so far:

Aratzio
Spooge
MAABOF
Vince
Deco
Mike/Bill (?)
Johnny Dollar

On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 10:04:52 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"Sherkaner Underhill" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 15:58:34 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

"seymore" wrote in message
news:c0ce9bbb-2243-4f58-
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oh, **** you, Gregory! The expression is old as dirt! In other parts
of the world "merry" is substituted by the word "happy". The meaning
is the same for Christians. why would they *not* be merry or happy
that the savior was born? huh?



You missed the point. "Merry Christmas" is the preferred, non-believer,
politically correct greeting that marginalizes the true purpose of
Christmas
which is celebrating the birth of the Christ. How about 'Joyous
Christmas' or better yet. 'Holy Christmas'.

That sounds like a dine idea and I hope you enjoy your push to put the
christian back into christianity. You plan to lead by example?

I am leading by example.


Do you think the non-believers would ever accept and say those
greetings?

Why are you so interested in controlling what other people are doing
and saying?

Negative, I am saying that, as a Christian, I am tasked with not
allowing my religion to be secularized, liberalized and *******ized by
accepting the language the anti-religious or non-religious use to usurp
and marginalize my religion.

Keep your religion to yourself (as instructed to do in your bible) and no
one will bother you. Real simple.

seymore wrote:
On Dec 25, 12:50 pm, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:
Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Christ so what's with this
'merry' crap?

The Online dictionary definition:

mer ry
adj. mer ri er, mer ri est
1. Full of high-spirited gaiety; jolly.
2. Marked by or offering fun and gaiety; festive: a merry evening.
3. Archaic Delightful; entertaining.
4. Brisk: a merry pace.

It seems to me this 'merry' Christmas crap is just another way for
non-believers to take over and marginalize the true meaning of Christmas.
It seems to me Christ's birth should be celebrated with solemn thanks to our
Lord for giving his only begotten son that those who believe in Him may have
everlasting life.

Getting drunk on spirits and getting bloated on too much food is debauchery.
Is it proper to gives thanks to the Lord's ultimate sacrifice by engaging in
sinful behavior? Making Christmas all about human vices seems to me to be
very antithetical, blasphemous and sinful and no way to get to Heaven.

--
Gregory Hall

oh, **** you, Gregory! The expression is old as dirt! In other parts
of the world "merry" is substituted by the word "happy". The meaning
is the same for Christians. why would they *not* be merry or happy
that the savior was born? huh?

Indeed. Listen to the old carol "On Christmas Night." To quote a part
of it:

"Then why should men on Earth be sad
Since our Redeemer made us glad?"

http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/o/x/oxnallcs.htm

as to the rest of your senseless diatribe, go **** yourself. if the
non Christians want to drink and eat themselves to death, let them! In
the mean time the Christians will be "merry" and "happy" in whatever
way they choose. Even most Amish celebrate the season with family and
friends with gatherings, feasts, and gift giving... some even decorate
Christmas trees!

so get a life and loosen up!

JD

Greg has no life, which is why he's reduced to spending Christmas alone,
poaching WiFi from someone to whine on Usenet. I find that entirely
fitting.

--

Greg's wrong guesses so far:

Aratzio
Spooge
MAABOF
Vince
Deco
Mike/Bill (?)
Johnny Dollar

On Dec 25, 11:50*am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:
Making Christmas all about human vices seems to me to be
very antithetical, blasphemous and sinful and no way to get to Heaven.

--
Gregory Hall

May Jacob Marley's ghost visit you tonight.

Bob G

In article , Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.
wrote:

Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Christ so what's with this
'merry' crap?

The Online dictionary definition:

mer·ry
adj. mer·ri·er, mer·ri·est
1. Full of high-spirited gaiety; jolly.
2. Marked by or offering fun and gaiety; festive: a merry evening.
3. Archaic Delightful; entertaining.
4. Brisk: a merry pace.


It seems to me this 'merry' Christmas crap is just another way for
non-believers to take over and marginalize the true meaning of Christmas.
It seems to me Christ's birth should be celebrated with solemn thanks to our
Lord for giving his only begotten son that those who believe in Him may have
everlasting life.

Getting drunk on spirits and getting bloated on too much food is debauchery.
Is it proper to gives thanks to the Lord's ultimate sacrifice by engaging in
sinful behavior? Making Christmas all about human vices seems to me to be
very antithetical, blasphemous and sinful and no way to get to Heaven.

Please build yourself a time machine and go back a couple of thousand
years and tell Jesus NOT to turn that water and just leave it as wine.
There's just so much you could tell him...

I pray that God will strike you and your kind down as in the days of
Lot. I want the Devil to personally force feed you his feces. I want
you to choke to death 1000X on the molten crap that flows from Satan's
anus.

Jackie DeGrippo wrote:
I pray that God will strike you and your kind down as in the days of
Lot. I want the Devil to personally force feed you his feces. I want
you to choke to death 1000X on the molten crap that flows from Satan's
anus.
Ah, it is such an honor to meet a xian who loves his neighbours
and in an argument turns the other cheek.
Who loves others like Jezus did.......

On Dec 25, 1:45*pm, Sjouke Burry
wrote:
Jackie DeGrippo wrote:
I pray that God will strike you and your kind down as in the days of
Lot. I want the Devil to personally force feed you his feces. I want
you to choke to death 1000X on the molten crap that flows from Satan's
anus.

Ah, it is such an honor to meet a xian who loves his neighbours
and in an argument turns the other cheek.
Who loves others like Jezus did.......

Now that "choke-to-death on hot molten crap from Satan's anus" is that
old time religion I was praying for, and hoping I wouldn't miss if I
took my sweet time to read thru all this xmas rigmarole you guys are
sweating about, thank you lord and HALLELUJAH for not disappointing
me.

Now If I didn't find it, I was going to have leave on some some lame
observation I made about somebody here saying "that religion depends
on good relationships with people" or something to that effect as
cited below ... but what do I know ... it's been a long time since
I've been to divinity school NOT!

On Dec 27, 8:20*am, husk wrote:
On Dec 27, 5:01*am, l *tr l wrote:

Gookler , wrote:
money was made. *One day the woman appeared at the door and told the
couple she needed to know why they gave her the money, why they
expected nothing back as her expeience had been nothing came to you
for free.

At this point the woman was ready to hear the story of Jesus.

So the woman had it exactly right.
Christians *give* for reason/expectation.
There is her expectation of your mocking
her common sense. Fruit of her seeing straight
through the usual shallow christian ****.

We give of ourselves, we expect nothing in return and we wait for them
to come to us.

Full up on contradiction in just a single sentence.
Not so amazing as it is, ****tards fail
at seeing the message in the utterings
they make in the name of saving themselves.
Again, an expectation of that brand of "giving".
This christian **** really is a dum****ers trip.

I can see how you would interpret in that way. *You see it as someone
paying someone to hear the word of Christ. *I see it as no
obligation. *Had the woman never come over to ask why the couple gave
her the money, it would have been left at that, a random act of
kindness. * And if that is all that is acheived, that the woman
realizes that strangers can care, then that is also, as Scientologists
put it, a win. * If the woman comes over to ask why, telling the woman
that the couple was influenced by the example set by Jesus, does not
brainwash her into instantly becoming a Christian. *Someone with a
long history of poor relationships with people is not going to jump
gung ho into a religion.

There is no payment expected back from the woman. The help is
genuine. *If she asks why, she is told and she has the ability to
decide whether the story is real or not, and again as Scientologists
put it, is true for her.

Note to self: now don't get Scientologists and Christian Scientists
mixed up.

-bdn-