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cavelamb December 15th 10 05:35 AM

Why my sailboat will beat your motorsailer.
 
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no boat
with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the Mustard'.
You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging through the
water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat configuration. I
sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975, Dufour 30 - the one with
the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I put her hull down in an hour
under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on a reach. And the Dufour is
supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the photos
of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard




For what it's worth, I envy you your new blue.

I'm looking forward to getting a new bottom job on Temptress.

But blue? Or Copper?

--

Richard Lamb
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Boo December 15th 10 10:39 AM

Why my sailboat will beat your motorsailer.
 

'Cut the Mustard'.


Man, that's an ugly boat !

Boo2

Flying Pig[_2_] December 15th 10 01:28 PM

Why my sailboat will beat your motorsailer.
 
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.



What happened to your Swan 62? Looks like it shrunk a bit!

L8R

Skip

--
Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog
and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog

"Believe me, my young friend, there is *nothing*-absolutely nothing-half so
much worth doing as simply messing, messing-about-in-boats; messing about in
boats-or *with* boats.

In or out of 'em, it doesn't matter. Nothing seems really to matter, that's
the charm of it.

Whether you get away, or whether you don't; whether you arrive at your
destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never get
anywhere at all, you're always busy, and you never do anything in
particular; and when you've done it there's always something else to do, and
you can do it if you like, but you'd much better not."



Flying Pig[_2_] December 15th 10 01:56 PM

Why my sailboat will beat your motorsailer.
 
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.


That's exactly the format we used (Worst Marine's best ablative) when we did
Flying Pig.

It's lasted nearly 4 years; the reveal coat (did half in blue, half in
black) is showing in most places other than the waterline, but it certainly
did the job on a long-term basis.

New bottom job coming up this spring when we return to the states for the
wedding...

L8R

Skip


--
Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog
and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog

"Believe me, my young friend, there is *nothing*-absolutely nothing-half so
much worth doing as simply messing, messing-about-in-boats; messing about in
boats-or *with* boats.

In or out of 'em, it doesn't matter. Nothing seems really to matter, that's
the charm of it.

Whether you get away, or whether you don't; whether you arrive at your
destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never get
anywhere at all, you're always busy, and you never do anything in
particular; and when you've done it there's always something else to do, and
you can do it if you like, but you'd much better not."



Joe December 15th 10 02:29 PM

Why my sailboat will beat your motorsailer.
 
On Dec 14, 12:31*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.

Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475

After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no boat
with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the Mustard'..
You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging through the
water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat configuration. I
sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975, Dufour 30 - the one with
the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I put her hull down in an hour
under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on a reach. And the Dufour is
supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the photos
of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!

Wilbur Hubbard


That's an ugly little cheap looking day sailor Neal. And whats with
the clunky heavy dink? That thing is half as big as cut the cheese.

Here is the new bottom paint picture you are obsessed over.
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/203...63212926pHGwrs

Had over 18,000 people look at RedClouds pictures there and almost
20,000 hits on You tube.
Could you post a link to the purple interior and plastic clocks again?
Also it looks like you cheap plastic ports are crazing. You can do a
port fix on par to your boom repair and use saran wrap.

I will post some pictures of the Why Me bottom job soon, I'm going to
pull her out soon.
Have to re-calk all the teak decks too. Going to replace the counter
tops in the galley and both heads, mount the LED TV and install a
larger water heater. Also have to tune up the twin 327's hard to get
her faster than 30kts now. Biggest problem is getting rid of 300
gallons of gasoline thats to old to use. Any suggestions?

Joe

Wayne.B December 15th 10 03:08 PM

Why my sailboat will beat your motorsailer.
 
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 06:29:37 -0800 (PST), Joe
wrote:

Biggest problem is getting rid of 300
gallons of gasoline thats to old to use. Any suggestions?


Advertise it on Craig's list, might have value to someone.


Flying Pig[_2_] December 15th 10 03:55 PM

Why my sailboat will beat your motorsailer.
 
Hi Wilbur - Lydia here! Just wanted to say how much I love the color of
your boat (yellow is absolutely my favorite color, even though if I try to
wear it I look like I just rose from the grave). Nice boot stripes - did
you do them? She looks lovely.

--
Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog
and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog

"Believe me, my young friend, there is *nothing*-absolutely nothing-half so
much worth doing as simply messing, messing-about-in-boats; messing about in
boats-or *with* boats.

In or out of 'em, it doesn't matter. Nothing seems really to matter, that's
the charm of it.

Whether you get away, or whether you don't; whether you arrive at your
destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never get
anywhere at all, you're always busy, and you never do anything in
particular; and when you've done it there's always something else to do, and
you can do it if you like, but you'd much better not."

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the
Mustard'. You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging
through the water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat
configuration. I sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975,
Dufour 30 - the one with the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I
put her hull down in an hour under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on
a reach. And the Dufour is supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the photos
of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard




Wilbur Hubbard December 15th 10 04:17 PM

Why my sailboat will beat your motorsailer.
 
"Flying Pig" wrote in message
...
Hi Wilbur - Lydia here! Just wanted to say how much I love the color of
your boat (yellow is absolutely my favorite color, even though if I try to
wear it I look like I just rose from the grave). Nice boot stripes - did
you do them? She looks lovely.



Thank you. Hi Lydia.

Sounds like Skippy knows how to chose an intelligent woman of impeccable
taste in yachts. Nice to hear from you. I put the boot stripe on but it's
tape, not paint. It's about eight inches higher than the original as the
boat contains lots more weight now in live aboard trim. The hardest thing
about using boot stripe tape when raising the LWL is getting it halfway
straight around the curvature of the hull. I bought the tape at West Marine.
Had to get two fifty-foot rolls as one roll ended up being about a foot and
a half short. Now, I have 48 feet left in case it's needed for repairing
scuffs.

The yellow is Imron paint professionally sprayed on about 25 years ago. I
bought the boat about a year after the original owner had it sprayed. They
used to race the boat and it was very stripped down and light at the time.
The paint job has held up pretty well all considered. I intend to paint the
faded blue above the rubbing stake again to a darker blue to match the cove
stripe and middle blue of the boot stripe and darker blue of the name. Have
to wait for warmer weather, though and less wind. Will do it in the water
standing in the dinghy.

What do you think of mauve-colored cushions in the accommodation? Everybody
else likes to make fun of them but I think they look just fine.


Wilbur Hubbard




Wilbur Hubbard December 15th 10 04:30 PM

Why my sailboat will beat your motorsailer.
 
"Flying Pig" wrote in message
...
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.


That's exactly the format we used (Worst Marine's best ablative) when we
did Flying Pig.

It's lasted nearly 4 years; the reveal coat (did half in blue, half in
black) is showing in most places other than the waterline, but it
certainly did the job on a long-term basis.

New bottom job coming up this spring when we return to the states for the
wedding...



My preference is the hard epoxy-based Trinidad because I can scrub and scrub
it with a scrub brush and it doesn't come off but slowly. I got almost ten
years out of my last bottom job with Trinidad so if I get the same out of
this one I won't have any complaints. My boat's small enough that I can get
the bottom scrubbed squeaky clean in only a couple hours using a scrub brush
and snorkel and fins.

I feel that since haul-outs are rather expensive and quite disruptive of the
daily routine doing as few as possible makes sense. Thus the many layers of
paint. When it gets down to the brown barrier coat then I know it's time for
another bottom job. The brown barrier coat was necessary as I used to use
Tri-Lux (tributyl tin) which is now banned and no longer available and it
used some sort of carrier paint that Trinidad would raise and bubble and not
adhere to. The barrier coat is compatible with the Tri-Lux and the Trinidad.
It sure was less work than scraping off all the Tri-Lux.

There's a good yard in Key Largo that let's you live aboard and do your own
work. Very laid back and reasonable prices. If you remember where the
Mandalay is when you anchored there in the Harbor near Rodriguez Key, it's
just to the north of it. The only hitch for you would be the requirement to
go in at high tide with local knowledge as the channel into the yard has
shoaled so with six-feet of draft the only time you can get in and out is at
high tide.


Wilbur Hubbard



Sir Gregory Hall, Esq December 15th 10 04:30 PM

Why my sailboat will beat your motorsailer.
 
"Flying Pig" wrote in message
...
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.



What happened to your Swan 62? Looks like it shrunk a bit!



LOL!




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