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man dies on sailboat: death by chair
I think you're wasting your time, Bruce. It seems Bob wants someone to be responsible for everything; Haitian earthquakes, Icelandic volcanos, Indian ocean tsunamis, it's *all* got to be someone's fault, Bob can't accept that sometimes **** happens. * *Justin. **** does happen all the time but sometimes one fellow simply walks away thiniking, Humm just another Tuesday. While others runn around wailing like a another welfare republican hoping to get saved by some one cause God did it. |
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I'll give you a concrete example: In 1936 or 7 my father bought some forested acreage outside our home town with the idea of cutting some of the timber to finance the building of a house. Along came the Great New England Hurricane, in 1938, and blew all the trees down and as blown down forests were all over New England the timber became nearly worthless... so a very small house :-) Now, this hurricane was the first major hurricane to strike the area since 1869 and is most powerful, costliest and deadliest hurricane in New England history. What do you call this? Sounds like he put all his eggs in one basket. To bad he " bet the farm" on one roll of the dice. What was his plan B in case the **** hit the fan...... as it did in his case? Another chapter could have been, a fire burnt it all down and the price of timber went sky high but there was no marketable timber left. There are several possible takes on that one. Personally, my relitives left Houlton Maine in the late 1850s and headed to the Oregon Territory to log and then farm the land. They seemed to do just fine... humm maybe the PNW was a better deal than Maine Its all about knowledge and judgment. Observe, predict, take corrective actions. Learn..... and the world becomes simple. Ya ever wonder why some people always have all the bad luck... you know like driving a perfictly good boat on a reer, constant motor problmes, and a never ending list of system hassels Oh and people problems? Bob |
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 00:47:16 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote: I'll give you a concrete example: In 1936 or 7 my father bought some forested acreage outside our home town with the idea of cutting some of the timber to finance the building of a house. Along came the Great New England Hurricane, in 1938, and blew all the trees down and as blown down forests were all over New England the timber became nearly worthless... so a very small house :-) Now, this hurricane was the first major hurricane to strike the area since 1869 and is most powerful, costliest and deadliest hurricane in New England history. What do you call this? Sounds like he put all his eggs in one basket. To bad he " bet the farm" on one roll of the dice. What was his plan B in case the **** hit the fan...... as it did in his case? Another chapter could have been, a fire burnt it all down and the price of timber went sky high but there was no marketable timber left. There are several possible takes on that one. Personally, my relitives left Houlton Maine in the late 1850s and headed to the Oregon Territory to log and then farm the land. They seemed to do just fine... humm maybe the PNW was a better deal than Maine Its all about knowledge and judgment. Observe, predict, take corrective actions. Learn..... and the world becomes simple. Ya ever wonder why some people always have all the bad luck... you know like driving a perfictly good boat on a reer, constant motor problmes, and a never ending list of system hassels Oh and people problems? Bob So, your contribution to the discussion about of Acts of God is "don't put your eggs in one basket" and "my folks moved to Oregon"? A meaningful response, indeed. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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So, your contribution to the discussion about of Acts of God is "don't put your eggs in one basket" and "my folks moved to Oregon"? A meaningful response, indeed. Cheers, Bruce Yup that sums it up. Always have a plan B.... but even more important Bruce: keep and open mind and always improve yourself.When a person isnt learning true stuff (best practices based on research/facts) they are gona keep messing up. Those folks are easy to spot by their language: Gaawd damn its a damn shame that happened Bubba. ya but not much ya can do bout that Bear. **** happens ya kno. Yup, ya cant go through life trying to be safe and protect ur self from every thing all the time. hell yald never get nuthin dun Bubba. Im a bleliver.... 99.99% of injuries and boat crashes/loss are predictable and preventable.... Hell just look at ole JoE formerly of the Red Clown and SKip and Lydia. Those two losses were easily predicted.... and i think they were right here by this wonderful peer review process we have on RBC. Time to go get the chickens up......... bob. |
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In article , Bob wrote:
I think you're wasting your time, Bruce. It seems Bob wants someone to be responsible for everything; Haitian earthquakes, Icelandic volcanos, Indian ocean tsunamis, it's *all* got to be someone's fault, Bob can't accept that sometimes **** happens. * *Justin. **** does happen all the time but sometimes one fellow simply walks away thiniking, Humm just another Tuesday. While others runn around wailing like a another welfare republican hoping to get saved by some one cause God did it. .... or runs around greed obsessed looking whose ass he can sue. Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. |
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In article , Bob wrote:
So, your contribution to the discussion about of Acts of God is "don't put your eggs in one basket" and "my folks moved to Oregon"? A meaningful response, indeed. Cheers, Bruce Yup that sums it up. Always have a plan B.... but even more important Bruce: keep and open mind and always improve yourself.When a person isnt learning true stuff (best practices based on research/facts) they are gona keep messing up. Those folks are easy to spot by their language: Gaawd damn its a damn shame that happened Bubba. ya but not much ya can do bout that Bear. **** happens ya kno. Yup, ya cant go through life trying to be safe and protect ur self from every thing all the time. hell yald never get nuthin dun Bubba. Im a bleliver.... 99.99% of injuries and boat crashes/loss are predictable and preventable.... Hell just look at ole JoE formerly of the Red Clown and SKip and Lydia. Those two losses were easily predicted.... and i think they were right here by this wonderful peer review process we have on RBC. Time to go get the chickens up......... bob. Then how do you explain those idiots who manage to do OK? There are people you bump into in life who you just wonder how they manage to put one foot in front of the other yet they seem to do just fine, they don't plan and research yet they always do OK. And what about those who plan and plan, and spend years researching, do all possible to eliminate possible failure and yet things go catastrophically bad, as an example take Apollo 13? Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. |
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:54:26 +0100, Justin C
wrote: And what about those who plan and plan, and spend years researching, do all possible to eliminate possible failure and yet things go catastrophically bad, as an example take Apollo 13? 1. Some are just plain lucky (an accident waiting for a place to happen). 2. Some do a lot of planning but don't fully understand the risks and issues, and what should be done to mitigate them (mostly a lack of real world experience). 3. Some, like Appollo 13, were calculated risks that went bad (no one ever said that the early days of space travel were going to be totally safe). 4. Some are cock sure arrogant and think it can't happen to them (see item number 1). |
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On Oct 20, 12:54*pm, Justin C wrote:
In article , Bob wrote: So, your contribution to the discussion about of Acts of God is "don't put your eggs in one basket" and "my folks moved to Oregon"? A meaningful response, indeed. Cheers, Bruce Yup that sums it up. Always have a plan B.... but even more important Bruce: keep and open mind and always improve yourself.When a person isnt learning true stuff (best practices based on research/facts) they are gona keep messing up. Those folks are easy to spot by their language: Gaawd damn its a damn shame that happened Bubba. ya but not much ya can do bout that Bear. **** happens ya kno. Yup, ya cant go through life trying to be safe and protect ur self from every thing all the time. hell yald never get nuthin dun Bubba. Im a bleliver.... 99.99% of injuries and boat crashes/loss are predictable and preventable.... Hell just look at ole JoE formerly of the Red Clown and SKip and Lydia. Those two losses were easily predicted.... and i think they were right here by this wonderful peer review process we have on RBC. Time to go get the chickens up......... bob. Then how do you explain those idiots who manage to do OK? There are people you bump into in life who you just wonder how they manage to put one foot in front of the other yet they seem to do just fine, they don't plan and research yet they always do OK. And what about those who plan and plan, and spend years researching, do all possible to eliminate possible failure and yet things go catastrophically bad, as an example take Apollo 13? * *Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Apollo 13, Shuttles Columbia and Challenger, Titanic, Amelia Earhart, Steve Fossett, Pete Blake, you could go on and on of people who embraced risk and failed..... but as JFK said "you have to risk greatly to achieve greatly" So ignore bOb, he is not a good example of anything,...except "waking up chickens" maybe. Listen to someone like Pete Goss who says: "Life hangs on a very thin thread and the cancer of time is complacency. If you are going to do something, do it now. Tomorrow is too late." Pete's lost a boat or two, but he's racing in the Route du Rhum next mo. and I think he's going to win. bOb and his lover Nealbur both need to sit in on one of Pete's corporate teaching sessions on embracing risk. They both are meek and timid at best. Joe |
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:39:38 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:54:26 +0100, Justin C wrote: And what about those who plan and plan, and spend years researching, do all possible to eliminate possible failure and yet things go catastrophically bad, as an example take Apollo 13? 1. Some are just plain lucky (an accident waiting for a place to happen). 2. Some do a lot of planning but don't fully understand the risks and issues, and what should be done to mitigate them (mostly a lack of real world experience). 3. Some, like Appollo 13, were calculated risks that went bad (no one ever said that the early days of space travel were going to be totally safe). 4. Some are cock sure arrogant and think it can't happen to them (see item number 1). There is no doubt in my mind that there is such a thing as "luck". I've personally known two individuals who went from almost nothing to millions, and much of their success was a result of starting a certain business at exactly the right time. In both cases they has little in the way of assets and knowledge of the business. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Oct 20, 7:58*pm, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote: On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:39:38 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:54:26 +0100, Justin C wrote: And what about those who plan and plan, and spend years researching, do all possible to eliminate possible failure and yet things go catastrophically bad, as an example take Apollo 13? 1. *Some are just plain lucky (an accident waiting for a place to happen). 2. *Some do a lot of planning but don't fully understand the risks and issues, and what should be done to mitigate them (mostly a lack of real world experience). 3. *Some, like Appollo 13, were calculated risks that went bad (no one ever said that the early days of space travel were going to be totally safe). 4. Some are cock sure arrogant and think it can't happen to them (see item number 1). There is no doubt in my mind that there is such a thing as "luck". I've personally known two individuals who went from almost nothing to millions, and much of their success was a result of starting a certain business at exactly the right time. In both cases they has little in the way of assets and knowledge of the business. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Unlike Wilbur and bOb the two individuals you knew were at the bat swinging. It's not luck, they put themselves out there. Some people hit home runs and some strike out but at least they get out there and do it, not paralyzed because of the fear a bolt might snap and they might fall overboard. Not to mention that cheap fix in the boom will fail. Got news for Nealbur...there is no failure, there are no accidents, and there are no mistakes. They are all learning experiences and stepping-stones. You can either roll up your sleeves and carry on, or you can quit. Nealbur....you're just taking up space. Joe .. |
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