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Bob October 20th 10 08:33 AM

man dies on sailboat: death by chair
 

I think you're wasting your time, Bruce. It seems Bob wants someone to
be responsible for everything; Haitian earthquakes, Icelandic volcanos,
Indian ocean tsunamis, it's *all* got to be someone's fault, Bob can't
accept that sometimes **** happens.


* *Justin.


**** does happen all the time but sometimes one fellow simply walks
away thiniking, Humm just another Tuesday. While others runn around
wailing like a another welfare republican hoping to get saved by some
one cause God did it.

Bob October 20th 10 08:47 AM

man dies on sailboat: death by chair
 

I'll give you a concrete example: In 1936 or 7 my father bought some
forested acreage outside our home town with the idea of cutting some
of the timber to finance the building of a house. Along came the Great
New England Hurricane, in 1938, and blew all the trees down and as
blown down forests were all over New England the timber became nearly
worthless... so a very small house :-)

Now, this hurricane was the first major hurricane to strike the area
since 1869 and is most powerful, costliest and deadliest hurricane in
New England history.

What do you call this?



Sounds like he put all his eggs in one basket. To bad he " bet the
farm" on one roll of the dice. What was his plan B in case the ****
hit the fan...... as it did in his case?

Another chapter could have been, a fire burnt it all down and the
price of timber went sky high but there was no marketable timber left.
There are several possible takes on that one.

Personally, my relitives left Houlton Maine in the late 1850s and
headed to the Oregon Territory to log and then farm the land. They
seemed to do just fine... humm maybe the PNW was a better deal than
Maine ;) Its all about knowledge and judgment. Observe, predict, take
corrective actions. Learn..... and the world becomes simple.

Ya ever wonder why some people always have all the bad luck... you
know like driving a perfictly good boat on a reer, constant motor
problmes, and a never ending list of system hassels Oh and people
problems?
Bob



Bruce in Bangkok[_16_] October 20th 10 12:25 PM

man dies on sailboat: death by chair
 
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 00:47:16 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:


I'll give you a concrete example: In 1936 or 7 my father bought some
forested acreage outside our home town with the idea of cutting some
of the timber to finance the building of a house. Along came the Great
New England Hurricane, in 1938, and blew all the trees down and as
blown down forests were all over New England the timber became nearly
worthless... so a very small house :-)

Now, this hurricane was the first major hurricane to strike the area
since 1869 and is most powerful, costliest and deadliest hurricane in
New England history.

What do you call this?



Sounds like he put all his eggs in one basket. To bad he " bet the
farm" on one roll of the dice. What was his plan B in case the ****
hit the fan...... as it did in his case?


Another chapter could have been, a fire burnt it all down and the
price of timber went sky high but there was no marketable timber left.
There are several possible takes on that one.

Personally, my relitives left Houlton Maine in the late 1850s and
headed to the Oregon Territory to log and then farm the land. They
seemed to do just fine... humm maybe the PNW was a better deal than
Maine ;) Its all about knowledge and judgment. Observe, predict, take
corrective actions. Learn..... and the world becomes simple.

Ya ever wonder why some people always have all the bad luck... you
know like driving a perfictly good boat on a reer, constant motor
problmes, and a never ending list of system hassels Oh and people
problems?
Bob


So, your contribution to the discussion about of Acts of God is "don't
put your eggs in one basket" and "my folks moved to Oregon"?

A meaningful response, indeed.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bob October 20th 10 01:01 PM

man dies on sailboat: death by chair
 

So, your contribution to the discussion about of Acts of God is "don't
put your eggs in one basket" and "my folks moved to Oregon"?

A meaningful response, indeed.

Cheers,
Bruce


Yup that sums it up. Always have a plan B.... but even more important
Bruce: keep and open mind and always improve yourself.When a person
isnt learning true stuff (best practices based on research/facts) they
are gona keep messing up. Those folks are easy to spot by their
language:
Gaawd damn its a damn shame that happened Bubba.
ya but not much ya can do bout that Bear. **** happens ya kno.
Yup, ya cant go through life trying to be safe and protect ur self
from every thing all the time. hell yald never get nuthin dun Bubba.

Im a bleliver.... 99.99% of injuries and boat crashes/loss are
predictable and preventable.... Hell just look at ole JoE formerly of
the Red Clown and SKip and Lydia. Those two losses were easily
predicted.... and i think they were right here by this wonderful peer
review process we have on RBC.

Time to go get the chickens up.........

bob.


Justin C[_36_] October 20th 10 06:44 PM

man dies on sailboat: death by chair
 
In article , Bob wrote:

I think you're wasting your time, Bruce. It seems Bob wants someone to
be responsible for everything; Haitian earthquakes, Icelandic volcanos,
Indian ocean tsunamis, it's *all* got to be someone's fault, Bob can't
accept that sometimes **** happens.


* *Justin.


**** does happen all the time but sometimes one fellow simply walks
away thiniking, Humm just another Tuesday. While others runn around
wailing like a another welfare republican hoping to get saved by some
one cause God did it.


.... or runs around greed obsessed looking whose ass he can sue.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

Justin C[_36_] October 20th 10 06:54 PM

man dies on sailboat: death by chair
 
In article , Bob wrote:

So, your contribution to the discussion about of Acts of God is "don't
put your eggs in one basket" and "my folks moved to Oregon"?

A meaningful response, indeed.

Cheers,
Bruce


Yup that sums it up. Always have a plan B.... but even more important
Bruce: keep and open mind and always improve yourself.When a person
isnt learning true stuff (best practices based on research/facts) they
are gona keep messing up. Those folks are easy to spot by their
language:
Gaawd damn its a damn shame that happened Bubba.
ya but not much ya can do bout that Bear. **** happens ya kno.
Yup, ya cant go through life trying to be safe and protect ur self
from every thing all the time. hell yald never get nuthin dun Bubba.

Im a bleliver.... 99.99% of injuries and boat crashes/loss are
predictable and preventable.... Hell just look at ole JoE formerly of
the Red Clown and SKip and Lydia. Those two losses were easily
predicted.... and i think they were right here by this wonderful peer
review process we have on RBC.

Time to go get the chickens up.........

bob.


Then how do you explain those idiots who manage to do OK? There are
people you bump into in life who you just wonder how they manage to put
one foot in front of the other yet they seem to do just fine, they don't
plan and research yet they always do OK. And what about those who plan
and plan, and spend years researching, do all possible to eliminate
possible failure and yet things go catastrophically bad, as an example
take Apollo 13?

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

Wayne.B October 20th 10 07:39 PM

man dies on sailboat: death by chair
 
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:54:26 +0100, Justin C
wrote:

And what about those who plan
and plan, and spend years researching, do all possible to eliminate
possible failure and yet things go catastrophically bad, as an example
take Apollo 13?


1. Some are just plain lucky (an accident waiting for a place to
happen).

2. Some do a lot of planning but don't fully understand the risks and
issues, and what should be done to mitigate them (mostly a lack of
real world experience).

3. Some, like Appollo 13, were calculated risks that went bad (no one
ever said that the early days of space travel were going to be totally
safe).

4. Some are cock sure arrogant and think it can't happen to them (see
item number 1).


Joe October 21st 10 12:31 AM

man dies on sailboat: death by chair
 
On Oct 20, 12:54*pm, Justin C wrote:
In article , Bob wrote:

So, your contribution to the discussion about of Acts of God is "don't
put your eggs in one basket" and "my folks moved to Oregon"?


A meaningful response, indeed.


Cheers,
Bruce


Yup that sums it up. Always have a plan B.... but even more important
Bruce: keep and open mind and always improve yourself.When a person
isnt learning true stuff (best practices based on research/facts) they
are gona keep messing up. Those folks are easy to spot by their
language:
Gaawd damn its a damn shame that happened Bubba.
ya but not much ya can do bout that Bear. **** happens ya kno.
Yup, ya cant go through life trying to be safe and protect ur self
from every thing all the time. hell yald never get nuthin dun Bubba.


Im a bleliver.... 99.99% of injuries and boat crashes/loss are
predictable and preventable.... Hell just look at ole JoE formerly of
the Red Clown and SKip and Lydia. Those two losses were easily
predicted.... and i think they were right here by this wonderful peer
review process we have on RBC.


Time to go get the chickens up.........


bob.


Then how do you explain those idiots who manage to do OK? There are
people you bump into in life who you just wonder how they manage to put
one foot in front of the other yet they seem to do just fine, they don't
plan and research yet they always do OK. And what about those who plan
and plan, and spend years researching, do all possible to eliminate
possible failure and yet things go catastrophically bad, as an example
take Apollo 13?

* *Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.- Hide quoted text -

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Apollo 13, Shuttles Columbia and Challenger, Titanic, Amelia Earhart,
Steve Fossett, Pete Blake, you could go on and on of people who
embraced risk and failed..... but as JFK said "you have to risk
greatly to achieve greatly"

So ignore bOb, he is not a good example of anything,...except "waking
up chickens" maybe.

Listen to someone like Pete Goss who says: "Life hangs on a very thin
thread and the cancer of time is complacency. If you are going to do
something, do it now. Tomorrow is too late." Pete's lost a boat or
two, but he's racing in the Route du Rhum next mo. and I think he's
going to win.

bOb and his lover Nealbur both need to sit in on one of Pete's
corporate teaching sessions on embracing risk. They both are meek and
timid at best.

Joe





Bruce in Bangkok[_16_] October 21st 10 01:58 AM

man dies on sailboat: death by chair
 
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:39:38 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:54:26 +0100, Justin C
wrote:

And what about those who plan
and plan, and spend years researching, do all possible to eliminate
possible failure and yet things go catastrophically bad, as an example
take Apollo 13?


1. Some are just plain lucky (an accident waiting for a place to
happen).

2. Some do a lot of planning but don't fully understand the risks and
issues, and what should be done to mitigate them (mostly a lack of
real world experience).

3. Some, like Appollo 13, were calculated risks that went bad (no one
ever said that the early days of space travel were going to be totally
safe).

4. Some are cock sure arrogant and think it can't happen to them (see
item number 1).



There is no doubt in my mind that there is such a thing as "luck".
I've personally known two individuals who went from almost nothing to
millions, and much of their success was a result of starting a certain
business at exactly the right time. In both cases they has little in
the way of assets and knowledge of the business.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Joe October 21st 10 04:06 AM

man dies on sailboat: death by chair
 
On Oct 20, 7:58*pm, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:39:38 -0400, Wayne.B





wrote:
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:54:26 +0100, Justin C
wrote:


And what about those who plan
and plan, and spend years researching, do all possible to eliminate
possible failure and yet things go catastrophically bad, as an example
take Apollo 13?


1. *Some are just plain lucky (an accident waiting for a place to
happen).


2. *Some do a lot of planning but don't fully understand the risks and
issues, and what should be done to mitigate them (mostly a lack of
real world experience).


3. *Some, like Appollo 13, were calculated risks that went bad (no one
ever said that the early days of space travel were going to be totally
safe).


4. Some are cock sure arrogant and think it can't happen to them (see
item number 1).


There is no doubt in my mind that there is such a thing as "luck".
I've personally known two individuals who went from almost nothing to
millions, and much of their success was a result of starting a certain
business at exactly the right time. In both cases they has little in
the way of assets and knowledge of the business.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Unlike Wilbur and bOb the two individuals you knew were at the bat
swinging.

It's not luck, they put themselves out there. Some people hit home
runs and some strike out but at least they get out there and do it,
not paralyzed because of the fear a bolt might snap and they might
fall overboard. Not to mention that
cheap fix in the boom will fail.

Got news for Nealbur...there is no failure, there are no accidents,
and there are no mistakes. They are all learning experiences and
stepping-stones. You can either roll up your sleeves and carry on, or
you can quit.

Nealbur....you're just taking up space.

Joe






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