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Vote for Palin-Brown in 2012. Repeal the nightmares. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. Why try to promote your flavor of candidate? That's REALLY old-school now. Thanks to the activist Supreme Court's sweeping out of a hundred years of congressional efforts to prevent politicians being bought, who YOU want is not material - the question is: what does Business want? Brian W In twenty years OR LESS, there will be enough Muslims in America to elect the government _they_ want. And it won't be about business... |
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:35:33 -0500, cavelamb
wrote: Vote for Palin-Brown in 2012. Repeal the nightmares. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. Why try to promote your flavor of candidate? That's REALLY old-school now. Thanks to the activist Supreme Court's sweeping out of a hundred years of congressional efforts to prevent politicians being bought, who YOU want is not material - the question is: what does Business want? Brian W In twenty years OR LESS, there will be enough Muslims in America to elect the government _they_ want. And it won't be about business... That's exactly what the Conservative Party of the Native American Confederation said when Manhattan Island was sold to the White Eyes...... and they were right! Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:35:33 -0500, cavelamb wrote: Vote for Palin-Brown in 2012. Repeal the nightmares. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. Why try to promote your flavor of candidate? That's REALLY old-school now. Thanks to the activist Supreme Court's sweeping out of a hundred years of congressional efforts to prevent politicians being bought, who YOU want is not material - the question is: what does Business want? Brian W In twenty years OR LESS, there will be enough Muslims in America to elect the government _they_ want. And it won't be about business... That's exactly what the Conservative Party of the Native American Confederation said when Manhattan Island was sold to the White Eyes...... and they were right! Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) So, can I come over there with you??? -- Richard Lamb |
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:57:17 -0500, cavelamb
wrote: Bruce in Bangkok wrote: On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:35:33 -0500, cavelamb wrote: Vote for Palin-Brown in 2012. Repeal the nightmares. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. Why try to promote your flavor of candidate? That's REALLY old-school now. Thanks to the activist Supreme Court's sweeping out of a hundred years of congressional efforts to prevent politicians being bought, who YOU want is not material - the question is: what does Business want? Brian W In twenty years OR LESS, there will be enough Muslims in America to elect the government _they_ want. And it won't be about business... That's exactly what the Conservative Party of the Native American Confederation said when Manhattan Island was sold to the White Eyes...... and they were right! Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) So, can I come over there with you??? Sure, of course you have No rights over here, being a foreigner. :-) Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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"Flying Pig" wrote in message
... Perkins 4-154s in farm service regularly get that much time on them as well. As such, barring some excitement we can't foresee, as we've just gone over 4k hours on the rebuilt unit which was installed during a prior owner's time, following (presuming the hourmeter which was still in place when the new tach/hourmeter was installed was stopped on the exchange, or perhaps before) hard charter service of nearly 7 years, we expect we'll never get to the end of the life of our auxiliary propulsion unit. Make that 7000 hours, not 7 years... Sorry... At our current usage, at a current ~4k hours, it will take us another 12-15 years to get to the old hourmeter's reading, let alone 10KH L8R Skip, non-political so not following the meanderings... -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hand. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in Illusions - The Reluctant Messiah) --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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"Flying Pig" wrote in message
... Hi, Willy :{)) All the jibes aside/ignored as your usual rabble-rousing, I'm impressed... Spoil sport! "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... I repowered my positive flotation, blue water, cruising yacht for $1,500. A new 6HP saildrive unit for $1500. Now THAT's impressive. Not a saildrive. That would be about as bad as an inboard diesel. Lower end always in the water corroding away, needing zincs, needing scraping, right there for lobster and crab pot leaders to catch, slowing the boat down about a knot even if not snagged by anything. You should know better. An outboard on the transom which can be lifted completely out of the water is the ONLY way to go on a real sailboat. What you have is a motor sailer - not a sailboat. I'm afraid you'll never experience the joy of a real sailboat at the rate you're going. FWIW, even the little Honda genset which we do use occasionally when there's no wind and sun to allow my green reseources to charge us up/keep us full, has many users reporting upward of 10,000 hours. Sad that some people admit to having to run a generator that many hours. I wish people like that would stay home on the grid where they belong. There very existence in an anchorage is vexing to we considerate folk. Perkins 4-154s in farm service regularly get that much time on them as well. And the diesels in locomotives do better than that by far. So, what's the point other than an admission of extreme motor headedness? As such, barring some excitement we can't foresee, as we've just gone over 4k hours on the rebuilt unit which was installed during a prior owner's time, following (presuming the hourmeter which was still in place when the new tach/hourmeter was installed was stopped on the exchange, or perhaps before) hard charter service of nearly 7 years, we expect we'll never get to the end of the life of our auxiliary propulsion unit. Famous last words! But, you just refused to answer the questions. How disruptive is that going to be? Answer: very - at least a week or two's worth of disruption. How expensive? Answer: very - probably 10,000 dollars or more all told. That should tell you something, Skippy, which is you are in the same league with WayneB. Only he's more honest going stickless. He's an out-of-the-closet polluter and proud of it. While I abhor those producing large quantities of recreational pollution, I don't think being dishonest about doing the same is any less admirable. That said, parts for this unit are becoming a bit like hen's teeth, and a critical part failure could result in a repower. If so, I expect that we'd go to a Cummins unit which is pretty close to a drop-in. Pretty close = equals perhaps an extra two or three days sorting things out. Costs, of course, are an issue - but we have reserves for that specific purpose. Downtime would be about a day, as there are no exhangeable parts, and the mechanics of removal and replacement are pretty straightforward. A sistership just installed a rebuilt in less than a day, which is about what I'd expect for ours, should the day arrive. Downtime about a day? LOL. He'll you'll be lucky if it doesn't take more than a day getting towed to a yard to arrange to get hauled. In the Bahamas, mon, try two or three days or more. Be honest, Skippy, a repower will probably involve several weeks downtime much of that on the hard. Careful maintenance has us expecting a very long life on Perky... Keeping fingers crossed. smirk So, when are you going to come whip our sorry asses cruising the Bahamas? We'll be here, we expect, for almost another year, unless, when we come back in a couple of weeks, we decide to head further before coming back for a wedding in March of next year. Most certainly not in the summertime which is the worst time to cruise the Bahamas. Terribly fickle and shifty winds, almost daily thunder and lightning, hot, humid, bugs, chances good to receive a direct hit from a hurricane, few decent hurricane holes and even those are full of hazards from stupid boaters who don't have a clue as to how to secure their vessels. Coming back for a wedding? ROFLOL. Weddings are for women, Skippy. Does the distaff side there run the program? Wear the pants? Rule the roost? snickers After that, we don't have any plans, because cruising plans are always subject to change, but we might do Mexico (after the FL coast and keys, which we've jumped over every other time), or the WC, or, just come back to the Bahamas and work our way down to the EC... If you do cruise the Keys let me know. I'll buy you and the ball and chain a beer and give you a tour of the yacht so you'll finally have an inkling of what a real sailboat is all about. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:38:06 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote this crap: Not a saildrive. That would be about as bad as an inboard diesel. Lower end always in the water corroding away, needing zincs, needing scraping, right there for lobster and crab pot leaders to catch, slowing the boat down about a knot even if not snagged by anything. You should know better. An outboard on the transom which can be lifted completely out of the water is the ONLY way to go on a real sailboat. What you have is a motor sailer - not a sailboat. I'm afraid you'll never experience the joy of a real sailboat at the rate you're going. What a dumbass. Only the shaft and prop is in the water. The prop folds up so there is no drag. Vote for Palin-Brown in 2012. Repeal the nightmares. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message
... On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:38:06 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote this crap: Not a saildrive. That would be about as bad as an inboard diesel. Lower end always in the water corroding away, needing zincs, needing scraping, right there for lobster and crab pot leaders to catch, slowing the boat down about a knot even if not snagged by anything. You should know better. An outboard on the transom which can be lifted completely out of the water is the ONLY way to go on a real sailboat. What you have is a motor sailer - not a sailboat. I'm afraid you'll never experience the joy of a real sailboat at the rate you're going. What a dumbass. Only the shaft and prop is in the water. The prop folds up so there is no drag. Vote for Palin-Brown in 2012. Repeal the nightmares. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- sail drive: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=...1b00b7cb80fe03 Please look at the nice little pictures. Like I said, lower end and prop always in the water. The worst of both worlds. Wilbur Hubbard |
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-- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hand. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in Illusions - The Reluctant Messiah) "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Flying Pig" wrote in message ... Hi, Willy :{)) All the jibes aside/ignored as your usual rabble-rousing, I'm impressed... Spoil sport! :{)) "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... I repowered my positive flotation, blue water, cruising yacht for $1,500. A new 6HP saildrive unit for $1500. Now THAT's impressive. Not a saildrive. That would be about as bad as an inboard diesel. My mistake, indeed. I somehow remembered "saildrive" - and, yet, a new 6hp at 1500 is pretty good, too... FWIW, even the little Honda genset which we do use occasionally when there's no wind and sun to allow my green reseources to charge us up/keep us full, has many users reporting upward of 10,000 hours. Sad that some people admit to having to run a generator that many hours. I wish people like that would stay home on the grid where they belong. There very existence in an anchorage is vexing to we considerate folk. The ones who are doing that are off-road campers, with all the comforts of home. It's not a matter of "have to" but "can" and get an amortized, with maintenance, cost of under a dime an hour. Famous last words! But, you just refused to answer the questions. How disruptive is that going to be? Answer: very - at least a week or two's worth of disruption. How expensive? Answer: very - probably 10,000 dollars or more all told. That should tell you something, Skippy, which is you are in the same league with WayneB. Only he's more honest going stickless. He's an out-of-the-closet polluter and proud of it. While I abhor those producing large quantities of recreational pollution, I don't think being dishonest about doing the same is any less admirable. Not quite. I gave you a direct comparison to our circumstance. About a day. That said, parts for this unit are becoming a bit like hen's teeth, and a critical part failure could result in a repower. If so, I expect that we'd go to a Cummins unit which is pretty close to a drop-in. Pretty close = equals perhaps an extra two or three days sorting things out. Maybe. But planning is everything :{)) There's no significant event (sail change, reef, anchoring etc.) which doesn't have a run-through with the Admiral beforehand. Costs, of course, are an issue - but we have reserves for that specific purpose. Downtime would be about a day, as there are no exhangeable parts, and the mechanics of removal and replacement are pretty straightforward. A sistership just installed a rebuilt in less than a day, which is about what I'd expect for ours, should the day arrive. Downtime about a day? LOL. He'll you'll be lucky if it doesn't take more than a day getting towed to a yard to arrange to get hauled. In the Bahamas, mon, try two or three days or more. Be honest, Skippy, a repower will probably involve several weeks downtime much of that on the hard. Fortunately, this, like most, doesn't fail catastrophically, but gives lots of clear warnings, along with gradual failure, well noticed in advance of actual need. Most 4-154 rebuilds or replacements are pre-emptive, rather than failures. As we're nearly as anal as you about when we turn on the engine, at the rate we're going, we'll likely have several years' warning of need. Careful maintenance has us expecting a very long life on Perky... Keeping fingers crossed. smirk Well, yes, just like every other piece of gear. Just what, exactly, broke your boom, by the way? Certainly, a prudent sailor would not have put themselves in the situation where force was the cause, and any competant yachtsman would have noticed any incipient failure due to degradation of hardware and remedied it before failure. Of course, I accept that another incompetant may have driven his much larger bow into your secured boom, forcing the break under pressure, or some similar event not in your control. Oh, I forgot - you'd have noticed him long before, and made sure, under admiralty law and regulation, to have avoided such a collision, even if you were the stand-on vessel. So, it must have been while you were away from the boat. So, which was it? So, when are you going to come whip our sorry asses cruising the Bahamas? We'll be here, we expect, for almost another year, unless, when we come back in a couple of weeks, we decide to head further before coming back for a wedding in March of next year. Most certainly not in the summertime which is the worst time to cruise the Bahamas. Terribly fickle and shifty winds, almost daily thunder and lightning, hot, humid, bugs, chances good to receive a direct hit from a hurricane, few decent hurricane holes and even those are full of hazards from stupid boaters who don't have a clue as to how to secure their vessels. Great timing. We'll be there for quite a while, well beyond the times you cite. If you do cruise the Keys let me know. I'll buy you and the ball and chain a beer and give you a tour of the yacht so you'll finally have an inkling of what a real sailboat is all about. You're on. Our expectation is to do the FL coast and keys, as we've jumped over them the three times we've been by them. See you in 2011, unless you chase us down first... L8R Skip and Lydia -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog The Society for the Preservation of Tithesis commends your ebriated and scrutible use of delible and defatigable, which are gainly, sipid and couth. We are gruntled and consolate that you have the ertia and eptitude to choose such putably pensible tithesis, which we parage. Stamp out Sesquipedalianism --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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