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![]() "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Hoges in WA wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Hoges in WA wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Harry wrote: On 2/27/10 12:03 PM, Stephen Trapani wrote: Larry wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote in news:zP-dncsy_ reasolutions: "Larry" wrote in message ... Joe wrote in news:79711f1e-f9e8-4e35-bd25- : It's bad JuJu to count your eggs at sea. Joe Talking about money, wouldn't that be bad JewJew? -- "iPad is to computing what Etch-A-Sketch is to art!" Larry Larry, your racism really has no place here or anywhere. Why isn't anyone allowed to make a JOKE with the word JEW in it? Am I supposed to feel guilty? I don't. If I make a joke about Baptists, noone complains. Why only Jews? A derogatory joke about Jews is racist, a derogatory joke about Baptists is not racist. Pretty simple. If you were consistently derisive about any other race, like Africans or Asians, you'd be getting the same grief, maybe more. Stephen There's no such race as "Jew" or "Jewish," despite the best efforts of some to make it seem so. There is no such thing as "race" period. But there is such a thing as contemptible prejudice based upon genetics. We call that "racism." Larry's psychological deficiency falls into that category. Stephen If I had had close friends on the USS LIberty, I would probably feel as Larry does, particularly as Israel has gone unpunished for that particular crime. I didn't and I don't but I can understand those that do. Really? So, say if you had a friend killed by a group of Africans you'd start believing Africans were inferior to everyone else? Stephen There's a difference between individual acts of violence and that generated by the state. However, my opinion of most Africans is already low, given the high success rate they have in running ********s of countries. (BTW, I am not a racist, I am a bigot - I am most particular in what I am prejudiced about.) Hm, no wonder you're sympathetic. Lets try again with another group. Say a North Korean ship accidentally killed some friends of yours. Would you then think all Asians are inferior and deserve to be killed? If they did it on purpose would you *then* think all Asians are inferior and deserve to be killed? Stephen No, you're missing the distinction between racism and bigotry. I am selective in my prejudices, not racially biased. To illustrate the point:- Genetically there is no difference between Palestinians and Jews. (the ones from Israel) They are both Semitic. However, I generally dislike the Palestinians and generally like the Jews. That demonstrates prejudice - I prejudge based on my experiences. With respect to Asians, I generally get on well with Chinese, although I am not all that well disposed to those from Peking and prefer the company of southerners - again, this is experience as I find the ones from the north far quicker to espouse Chinese political aims and the ones from the south more inclined to eat good food and drink heaps. I like the company of Cantonese, but not party-liners from the capital. This distinction also applies on Oz, as I generally am not all that well disposed to people from Canberra (the capital) as they are far more liberal elitist than the rest of Australia. I am led to believe that you people have this problem with Washington DC apparatchicks also. With respect to Africans, I would not countenance giving someone from the Congo anything other than suspicion, whereas I'd be happy to relax in the company of someone from Tanganyika. Unfortunately, in that blighted tribal basket-case, there are very few tribes to like. It has nothing to do with race and is all about track records, which is what most people base their prejudices on. Most just don't recognise it or admit it. I have a different Jewish experience to Larry's, and I have many Jewish associates and friends but as I said, I understand why he is of the opinion he is. I hope this makes it clearer. |
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